oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
what are some good rap songs that ARENT mainstream? I want some fvckin raw underground shii...
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Good rap...
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Skilla_Staz
Master Don Juan
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hahah thats me and my friend..his songs are the good ones..mine are the...less than good ones?
hahah thats me and my friend..his songs are the good ones..mine are the...less than good ones?
Depends what kind of underground you're looking for, theres everything from Jedi Mind Tricks and Outerspace to Atmosphere or even Mf Doom. There is A LOT of underground out there and its hard to narrow down "good music" for you if you don't give us something to base our ideas off of.
Create Reality
Master Don Juan
By the smell of it you can tell if it's good rap.
Wutang Clan - 36 Chambers, their first album, maybe counts as mainstreeam but don't care 
NWA - Straight Outta Compton, great pioneering rap album.
Tribe Called Quest, their 88-93 stuff, anything really, some good tracks, non-gangster-rap-rap.
NWA - Straight Outta Compton, great pioneering rap album.
Tribe Called Quest, their 88-93 stuff, anything really, some good tracks, non-gangster-rap-rap.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
By good, i pretty much meant not mainstream. Atmosphere, Immortal Technique, Brother Ali, Deltron 3000...stuff like that, AND some people that YOU like.Soupar said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Yeah, many groups from the late 80's and early 90's. Ice-T, 2 Live Crew, Kool Moe D and LL Cool J.MrS said:Wutang Clan - 36 Chambers, their first album, maybe counts as mainstreeam but don't care
NWA - Straight Outta Compton, great pioneering rap album.
Tribe Called Quest, their 88-93 stuff, anything really, some good tracks, non-gangster-rap-rap.
To be honest hip hop aint what it use to be, IMO.
Forget a song, get the classic albums. The best song of 06 was:
Nas feat. Jay-Z- Black Republicans. (Godfather 2 sample!)
I would highly recommend:
Nas-Illmatic
Wu Tang Clan-Enter the 36 Chambers,Wu Tang Forever
Biggie-Ready to Die, Life After Death
Raekwon-Only Built for the Cuban Linx
GZA-Liquid Swords
Jay-Z-Reasonable Doubt,The Blueprint
Big Pun-Capital Punishment
Big L-Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous
EPMD-Strictly Business, Business Never Personal
Kool G Rap and DJ Polo-Road to Riches, Wanted: Dead or Alive, Live and Let Die
Eric B and Rakim-Paid in Full, Follow the Leader, Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em, Dont Sweat the Technique.
Mobb Deep- The Infamous
Boogie Down Productions-Criminal Minded
KRS ONE-Return of the Boom Bap
Gangstarr-Daily Operation, Moment of Truth
Big Daddy Kane-Long Live the Kane
Biz Markie-Goin Off
RUN DMC-RUN DMC, Raising Hell
Ghostface Killah-Supreme Clientele, Ironman
The Fat Boys- greatest hits
Snoop Doggy Dogg-Doggystyle
Dr. Dre-The Chronic
A Tribe Called Quest-Low End Theory, Midnight Mauraders
2PAC-Me Against the World
2PAC/Makaveli-Don Killumanti-The 7-Day Theory
Main Source-Breaking Atoms
Public Enemy-It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
Beastie Boys-Licensed to Ill
Ultramagnetic MC's-Critical Beatdown
Common-Resurrection
Redman-Whut? Thee Album
Black Star-Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star
DITC- self titled
Beatnuts-Stone Crazy
Jeru the Damaja-The Sun Rises in the East
There is crap in "underground" and on the mainstream.
For underground, I like Thirstin Howl the 3rd, and J-zone. Alot of underground hip hop seems pretty nerdy.
DITC. Diggin in The Crates Crew, is one of the greatest hip hop groups ever. The are IMO, kings of the underground. Nobody can compare the talents of these mc's and producers. DITC is: Showbiz, AG, Big L ( R.I.P. ), Buckwild, Diamond D, Fat Joe, O.C., Lord Finesse
Hip Hop all starts with the song " Planet Rock".....:rockon:
Forget a song, get the classic albums. The best song of 06 was:
Nas feat. Jay-Z- Black Republicans. (Godfather 2 sample!)
I would highly recommend:
Nas-Illmatic
Wu Tang Clan-Enter the 36 Chambers,Wu Tang Forever
Biggie-Ready to Die, Life After Death
Raekwon-Only Built for the Cuban Linx
GZA-Liquid Swords
Jay-Z-Reasonable Doubt,The Blueprint
Big Pun-Capital Punishment
Big L-Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous
EPMD-Strictly Business, Business Never Personal
Kool G Rap and DJ Polo-Road to Riches, Wanted: Dead or Alive, Live and Let Die
Eric B and Rakim-Paid in Full, Follow the Leader, Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em, Dont Sweat the Technique.
Mobb Deep- The Infamous
Boogie Down Productions-Criminal Minded
KRS ONE-Return of the Boom Bap
Gangstarr-Daily Operation, Moment of Truth
Big Daddy Kane-Long Live the Kane
Biz Markie-Goin Off
RUN DMC-RUN DMC, Raising Hell
Ghostface Killah-Supreme Clientele, Ironman
The Fat Boys- greatest hits
Snoop Doggy Dogg-Doggystyle
Dr. Dre-The Chronic
A Tribe Called Quest-Low End Theory, Midnight Mauraders
2PAC-Me Against the World
2PAC/Makaveli-Don Killumanti-The 7-Day Theory
Main Source-Breaking Atoms
Public Enemy-It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
Beastie Boys-Licensed to Ill
Ultramagnetic MC's-Critical Beatdown
Common-Resurrection
Redman-Whut? Thee Album
Black Star-Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star
DITC- self titled
Beatnuts-Stone Crazy
Jeru the Damaja-The Sun Rises in the East
There is crap in "underground" and on the mainstream.
For underground, I like Thirstin Howl the 3rd, and J-zone. Alot of underground hip hop seems pretty nerdy.
DITC. Diggin in The Crates Crew, is one of the greatest hip hop groups ever. The are IMO, kings of the underground. Nobody can compare the talents of these mc's and producers. DITC is: Showbiz, AG, Big L ( R.I.P. ), Buckwild, Diamond D, Fat Joe, O.C., Lord Finesse
Hip Hop all starts with the song " Planet Rock".....:rockon:
Rebound Material
Master Don Juan
This WAS famous back in 1994 but I still love it...
Bone Thugs N Harmony - Thuggish Ruggish Bone
Bone Thugs N Harmony - Thuggish Ruggish Bone
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BBX
Master Don Juan
The Roots. Thats what rap is supposed to sound like.
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ValleyDJing
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By the sound of it you're looking for some hard s.hit
DMX- X is coming for you, Damien, Let Me Fly
Tupac- Who do you love, Ghost, Runnin (Dying to Live)
Lloyd Banks- Work Magic, Till the End, Warrior part 2, When the Chips are Down
50 Cent- Guns Come Out, High all the Time, I'll Whup Your Head Boy, 3 Kings, Doing My Own Thang
Bone Thugs N Harmony- Thug Luv
Young Jeezy- 22's or Better (get the chopped and screwed version)
Brother Lynch Hung- Locc to the Brain (might be hard to find it)
Akon- Never Gonna Get it,
Ghetto Boyz- Yes Yes Yall
Shells- Get Your Roll On
Game- We Aint, The Documentary
Ja Rule- 6 Feet Underground, Extacy (not a hard song, but its hella sick so get it)
Obie Trice- Outro, Average Man, Lady, Oh
T.I.- 24's
Youngbloodz- Something Like a Pimp, Chop Chop
DMX- X is coming for you, Damien, Let Me Fly
Tupac- Who do you love, Ghost, Runnin (Dying to Live)
Lloyd Banks- Work Magic, Till the End, Warrior part 2, When the Chips are Down
50 Cent- Guns Come Out, High all the Time, I'll Whup Your Head Boy, 3 Kings, Doing My Own Thang
Bone Thugs N Harmony- Thug Luv
Young Jeezy- 22's or Better (get the chopped and screwed version)
Brother Lynch Hung- Locc to the Brain (might be hard to find it)
Akon- Never Gonna Get it,
Ghetto Boyz- Yes Yes Yall
Shells- Get Your Roll On
Game- We Aint, The Documentary
Ja Rule- 6 Feet Underground, Extacy (not a hard song, but its hella sick so get it)
Obie Trice- Outro, Average Man, Lady, Oh
T.I.- 24's
Youngbloodz- Something Like a Pimp, Chop Chop