I was having a little debate with this guy i know. Im a good looking guy always get compliments and all that sh!t. He is not a piece of eye candy. But he was saying no matter what the guy has the responsibility of going up to a girl (bascially pursuing her). Basically what I have found is that I have never done too much work to get a girl they come to me and thats when you have the power immediatley. I guess if youre good looking and you go up to a hb then you might have to say hi and thats about it. I am I right or wrong?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Good looking guys do less work
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
biker_gixxer
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Guys are expected to make the first move, but I wouldn't call it a responsibility. And I don't see it as pursing her either, especially if she's giving me looks and inviting me over (not with words, but her actions). If this is the case, then it's actually HER pursing me.
Some girls won't make the first approach no matter how hot she thinks you are because they weren't brought up that way. So if you don’t approach, you could be missing out.
Now, if you are one of the genetically gifted men who are used to being approached by women, this doesn’t mean that you have all the power. If you don’t watch yourself, she can take it and leave you wondering what the hell happened.
Some girls won't make the first approach no matter how hot she thinks you are because they weren't brought up that way. So if you don’t approach, you could be missing out.
Now, if you are one of the genetically gifted men who are used to being approached by women, this doesn’t mean that you have all the power. If you don’t watch yourself, she can take it and leave you wondering what the hell happened.
Tha Realnezz
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I made a thread about this already.Apparnetly the ugly guys (most of the board) say different...but of course they would say no to this since they aren't attractive at all to begin with.
I say if your at least average with an decent personality then you shouldn't have a problem.
I say if your at least average with an decent personality then you shouldn't have a problem.
The Bad Ass Canadian
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Sad but true... being blessed with good looks will make life a bit easier for a person.
Who would you hire at a job interview, considering both people were equally qualified for the position.... The overweight bald guy or the in shape well groomed guy?
A hot girl will get jobs easier then an ugly girl.
Beautiful people will get catered to more, simply because of their looks... and usually have no troubles finding a partner.
Change what you can and accept what you can't
Who would you hire at a job interview, considering both people were equally qualified for the position.... The overweight bald guy or the in shape well groomed guy?
A hot girl will get jobs easier then an ugly girl.
Beautiful people will get catered to more, simply because of their looks... and usually have no troubles finding a partner.
Change what you can and accept what you can't
If a good looking guy approaches a HB, he would have less work on making a good first impression, specially if she's really shallow, in which case its likely she'll be more than happy to talk to you and will even show you off to her friends. However thats about it, good looks can probably only help you in effortlessly making a good first impression. When an average or less than average guy approaches a hot girl, he will have to work harder on getting his foot in the door such as by using a charming or easy going personality. The trick is about moving in the right direction after the first impression.
Looks do not equal chicks.
Looks do not equal chicks.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Wow realnezz, I had respect for you as an intellectual until I stumbled across this post. Just because someone doesn't side with you makes them ugly? I'm not taking offence but that's pretty blanket.
N E wayz, yes, looks DO mean an easier life and No, you don't need them to bang chicks neither will you have any substantial edge, and here's the reason. Everyone has tastes, girls taste vary so much that the odds are this amount of girls will find you physically stimulating and this amount won't, simple as that.
(haha i know i sound like an ugly guy on a mission but it's all true.)
(and no, i'm not ugly.)
(seriously, i'm not)
N E wayz, yes, looks DO mean an easier life and No, you don't need them to bang chicks neither will you have any substantial edge, and here's the reason. Everyone has tastes, girls taste vary so much that the odds are this amount of girls will find you physically stimulating and this amount won't, simple as that.
(haha i know i sound like an ugly guy on a mission but it's all true.)
(and no, i'm not ugly.)
(seriously, i'm not)
If you are a very attractive man, you will need good game to get very attractive women.
If you are a very attractive man, you will not need good game to get less attractive women.
If you are not an attractive man, you will need good game to get women.
understand?
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If you are a very attractive man, you will not need good game to get less attractive women.
If you are not an attractive man, you will need good game to get women.
understand?
/thread
Tha Realnezz
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I said most of the people on that thread admitted to being unattractive and said they didn't agree with me.
Rex,that thread is a few pages back and you can check it yourself.
How can they know either way if they aren't at least decent looking?The point of that thread and this one is that looks will make it easy for the guy to the girl.
I don't see how anyone can deny that unless they're just bitter or unattractive to begin with.
I am average and I get my fair share.But that I must admit to myself that my height has alot to do with it.Hot women do approach me or make it easy for me to approach them.Almost to the point where I don't do cold approaches at all.
I am also man enough to admit guys with better looks,bodies,personal status..get women like it's nothing.
I personally feel that personality & the way you treat a woman come second ..AT BEST.
Good-looking women get together with good-looking guys.
Less attractive guys get together with less attractive women.
I don't understand where comments like "I can't believe that guy hooked up with a hot girl like that" etc comes from. It happens so rarely that it's because it's an anomaly you notice it. Beautiful people attract beautiful people. None wants to settle.
Average-looking guys can get smokin' women if they have enough game. Personality is definitely most important but unless you are a good-looking dude, you seriously have to work alot harder for it! Women judge based on looks alot more than this site gives credit for, but luckily there are things we can do to level the playfield. If you see an average Joe with a hot girl, you know he deserves it...or is rich or famous
Less attractive guys get together with less attractive women.
I don't understand where comments like "I can't believe that guy hooked up with a hot girl like that" etc comes from. It happens so rarely that it's because it's an anomaly you notice it. Beautiful people attract beautiful people. None wants to settle.
Average-looking guys can get smokin' women if they have enough game. Personality is definitely most important but unless you are a good-looking dude, you seriously have to work alot harder for it! Women judge based on looks alot more than this site gives credit for, but luckily there are things we can do to level the playfield. If you see an average Joe with a hot girl, you know he deserves it...or is rich or famous
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
mroriginal2
Don Juan
Whats great about our reality is that theirs a solution for everything. Too ugly? get plastic surgery, Too fat? excersize, Too stupid? read a book, boring personality? watch some jim carry movies. I can see a height increase solution coming soon for you short guys too or maybe for your kids lol!. my point is their are solutions for everything even getting Hb9s, we just havent cracked the cold yet.
or maybe for your kids lol!. my point is their are solutions for everything even getting Hb9s, we just havent cracked the cold yet.Le Parisien
Master Don Juan
I will side with Tha Realnezz and \O/ on this one.
Good looks isn't everything, but it makes things so much easier.
Why some people just persist to say that it doesn't matter?
I don't want to jump to hasty conclusions, but being a guy blessed with quite nice and youthful looking facial features myself (unfortunately, my height is average at best), I can tell the benefits of it first hand everyday, whether it's with the ladies or other daily things (my job interviews for example... ok I work in marketing, a pretty "shallow and superficial" field). Why many people here just totally deny it?
Tha Realnezz is probably right, many not so good looking guys here simply are looking for validation and reassurance...
Good looks isn't everything, but it makes things so much easier.
Why some people just persist to say that it doesn't matter?
I don't want to jump to hasty conclusions, but being a guy blessed with quite nice and youthful looking facial features myself (unfortunately, my height is average at best), I can tell the benefits of it first hand everyday, whether it's with the ladies or other daily things (my job interviews for example... ok I work in marketing, a pretty "shallow and superficial" field). Why many people here just totally deny it?
Tha Realnezz is probably right, many not so good looking guys here simply are looking for validation and reassurance...
mahon83050
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I agree, if you have an ugly face or are out of shape, you will not get a women who is a 6 or up.
However, a guy with an average face and in shape body can get some decent chicks. I am talking the 6's - 8's, but probably cannot get the 9's and 10's (who cares, why would you want a 9 or 10 anyways...too much trouble)
Most young people in this world usually fall into the average to above average range with very few being ugly or stunning looking.
I consider myself in the 7 range and seem to attract women in the 6-8 range. I am NOT good-looking enough to get the stunners, but I do not want them anyway.
However, a guy with an average face and in shape body can get some decent chicks. I am talking the 6's - 8's, but probably cannot get the 9's and 10's (who cares, why would you want a 9 or 10 anyways...too much trouble)
Most young people in this world usually fall into the average to above average range with very few being ugly or stunning looking.
I consider myself in the 7 range and seem to attract women in the 6-8 range. I am NOT good-looking enough to get the stunners, but I do not want them anyway.
a good looking guy will make a better first impression, but unless they have a great personality or fantastic kissing skills they will be blown out very quickly
an average looking guy who's fun will have a harder time making a good first impression, but will wow the girl with his personality and she will find herself strangely attracted to him
i have a lot of chick friends, they find some guys incredibly good looking and want them so bad, but then once they talk to them the guys turn out to be really really unattractive
think about that.
an average looking guy who's fun will have a harder time making a good first impression, but will wow the girl with his personality and she will find herself strangely attracted to him
i have a lot of chick friends, they find some guys incredibly good looking and want them so bad, but then once they talk to them the guys turn out to be really really unattractive
think about that.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
YES, all other things being equal, the better looking guy will get away with having less game...
HOW IS THIS NEWS?
This whole thread is a mess of afc jibberish. Style's not goodlooking. But look at his GF. A 10.
It's ALL about value. Looks subcommunicates value. But so does a TON of other stuff. Wearing cool clothes subcommunicates value. So does frame control. So does social proof. So does being expressive. JESUS. It's the blind leading the blind around here! Please. Go to fastseduction.com or bristollair.com and educate yourselves.
HOW IS THIS NEWS?
This whole thread is a mess of afc jibberish. Style's not goodlooking. But look at his GF. A 10.
It's ALL about value. Looks subcommunicates value. But so does a TON of other stuff. Wearing cool clothes subcommunicates value. So does frame control. So does social proof. So does being expressive. JESUS. It's the blind leading the blind around here! Please. Go to fastseduction.com or bristollair.com and educate yourselves.
Le Parisien
Master Don Juan
Don't take it personal man, but this is typically what we see TOO often here on this forum.
So why always comparing a good looking total AFC to an average looking fun guy? As if an average guy is much much more likely to be a charming person?
Actually a good looking personal tends to having much higher probability to be a fun, confident person since he's less likely to be self-conscious about his looks and since his younger years has been overwhelmed with attention, whether from the girls or in other social settings.
STOP the wishful thinking!
Aerospace
Don Juan
It's all about confidence, people. Being this shallow won't do any good for you. Try to meet less shallow, more intelligent people. I'm sure you'll change your mind.
And try to live with what you have. I may be ugly but my IQ is 135. Enough to look at every woman's brain from far above.
Act like you're God. This will work like a charm. Also remember that the paradigm of beauty is very influenced by culture. A woman may know what she wants, but surely ignores what things she reacts to.
Beauty will never work on the subconscious level that charme is able to reach.
And try to live with what you have. I may be ugly but my IQ is 135. Enough to look at every woman's brain from far above.
Act like you're God. This will work like a charm. Also remember that the paradigm of beauty is very influenced by culture. A woman may know what she wants, but surely ignores what things she reacts to.
Beauty will never work on the subconscious level that charme is able to reach.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
Looks may help but they are not everything. A girl will always go for an intresting ugly guy over a boring good looking guy.
reyalp
Master Don Juan
That's a pretty big brush to paint all women with, I'd modify that to say "The majority of girls will always...." blah blah
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.