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Good idea to take things slow with this girl?

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Few weeks ago i chatted up with a girl, good looking and guys are dwelling over her. I talked with her in a brief conversation about travelling and told her i am gonna stay on a castle and she should come along.
Saw her yesterday again and i said hi. A guy was holding his arm around her body while i was chatting with her. The guy had such smile like, look who i got in my arm, tried to kiss her and she hardly replied his kiss attempt. So me and the girl got in a conversation anyway and when the guy did not received attention from her he left. I asked her if he was afraid that she might be blown away by the wind since he was holding her so strong.
She told me she met him last week and that he was taking things too serious.
We talked about the castle again and i told her we should go but that i want to know her better before we go and that i don't wanne be like the guy who was holding her or the 47 other guys who are bumping and touching her.

Now the question is, is it a good idea to take it slow with a girl who is getting attention all the time? I had the idea i was doing well by not rushing in, keeping myself in control, acting not to clingy, using light kino and ending the conversation before she did. Or is this another way to friendzone? I just don't wanne be a guy who is dwelling on her.
 

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LittleBigOne said:
and that i don't wanne be like the guy who was holding her or the 47 other guys who are bumping and touching her.

you were doing ok until you said this. you shouldnt have to TELL a woman you dont want to share her, you should act indifferent. make her wonder why you dont sweat the competition... its because you get chicks a dime a dozen. take that attitude, go to the castle, and bang the heck outta her. always be a mystery, and act like you dont need her, she needs you
 

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LittleBigOne said:
Saw her yesterday again and i said hi. A guy was holding his arm around her body while i was chatting with her. The guy had such smile like, look who i got in my arm, tried to kiss her and she hardly replied his kiss attempt. So me and the girl got in a conversation anyway and when the guy did not received attention from her he left. I asked her if he was afraid that she might be blown away by the wind since he was holding her so strong.
She told me she met him last week and that he was taking things too serious.
I suppose that if the convo you had with this girl about the guy who had his arm around her was brief,or just a comment,then it was ok,however, you DON'T WANT TO get into a habit of talking about other guys with a girl who you have a interest in.

Another thing I noticed was that she said that although she's only known him a week,that he was taking things too serious. To me that means that there may ALREADY BE some sort of relationship established between the two of them. She didn't say she didn't like him,only that he was taking things too serious too soon.

LittleBigOne said:
We talked about the castle again and i told her we should go but that i want to know her better before we go and that i don't wanne be like the guy who was holding her or the 47 other guys who are bumping and touching her.
Your comment about you wanting to know her better...I'm not really sure how to take that. If you meant that you want to know her better before taking her away somewhere where the two of you will be together for a while,then cool. This "castle" you keep talking about,if it's like something where you'll be staying overnight,then your "want to get to know you better" statement was good,however,by bringing that up,now YOU"LL BE THE ONE appearing to move too fast.

Since you didn't give any info on the "castle" thing,it's really hard to say.

As for you telling her that you don't want to be like the guy who was holding her,or like 47 other guys who are bumping and touching her,I totally agree with Joe Stud.

You telling her that was a mistake.

Instead of you SAYING that you didn't want to be like those other guys,why didn't you just NOT BE like them?

If you wanted to stand out,then you should have just stood out.

There was no need for you to announce you wanting to be different to this girl.

Now when you do things different,SHE'LL KNOW it was contrived/thought up instead of you just being different naturally.

LittleBigOne said:
Now the question is, is it a good idea to take it slow with a girl who is getting attention all the time?
This girl isn't special. ALL ATTRACTIVE WOMEN get lots of attention. You have a misunderstanding here. Her getting a lot of attention isn't the problem. The problem is her getting attention from AFCs. It won't matter "how slow" you take it. If you give her attention as an AFC,you can be as slow as you want,and you'll still be lost in the crowd of AFCness.

LittleBigOne said:
I had the idea i was doing well by not rushing in, keeping myself in control, acting not to clingy, using light kino and ending the conversation before she did. Or is this another way to friendzone?
Although these things you mentioned (not rushing in,keeping yourself in control,not acting clingy,etc.) are all good to do,you can do ALL OF THAT...and still fall into the friendzone.

What kind of vibe did she get from you? Was it a friendly/gentleman/not wanting to offend her vibe,or was it of a sexual man?

With the first,you stand a pretty good chance of getting friendzoned.

With the latter,there is ZERO chance...IF...if you showed that side of you from the beginning.

This might sound crazy,but if you didn't show your "sexual" side to her from the getgo,then even that guy who had his arm around her and tried to kiss her has a better chance with her than you...EVEN with him being turned down.

Rejection is better than the friendzone.

Trust me on that one.
 
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