"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Good Conversation Starters - and the Flow

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Well the DJ bible (the link right at the top right of ths site) has some awesome conversation tips. So if you haven't already I'd recommend checking that out.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Most of it is pretty standard stuff really - I suggest practice over everything else. Get to know loads of different people - I do that myself. I know the geeks, the 'in' crowd, skaters, Asians, blacks etc. It really helps with thinking on the spot. I never used to be the one who started the conversations but since college a couple of years back I have started talking to basically anyone. My main downfall was supplicating nice looking girls - I put them on a pedestal because of their looks. Bad idea...
 

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Good conversation starters are situational. If you're at a football game, football is a good starter, if you're at a college party, say something about the college, if you're at a bar and you see a girl with some gay looking fruity colored drink, ask her what she's drinking.

There's no universal conversation starter, aside from the word "Hi."
 

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Finding common ground is key. I don't know if this is good or not but I'll put my PoV to one side and pretty much agree with what someone else is saying when I first meet them. If we're having a more political discussion I'll let my feeling be known otherwise I won't.
 

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Some guys here will say this is showing too much interest, but I use this one at parties and other social events:

"Hi, you caught my eye when you came in. What's your name?"

"I'm Dr. Dopenstein..."

Proceed with fluffity fluff.

It works most of the time. It's a little flattering without being gushing or needy. Anyway, flame away at me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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One bit of advice the bible doesn't highlight enough is to not feel the need to fill silences/not be worried about silence in conversation.
 

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Don't feel intimidated by the silences - be completely cool about it. Don't do all the talking either. Mentioning her name whilst saying something is supposed to work very well. A few individuals I know do that with me (blokes in general chit-chat) and it does get your attention and makes you feel like they're talking exclusively to you.

Hope this stuff is useful?

Cheers!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Page3lover2
Don't feel intimidated by the silences - be completely cool about it. Don't do all the talking either. Mentioning her name whilst saying something is supposed to work very well. A few individuals I know do that with me (blokes in general chit-chat) and it does get your attention and makes you feel like they're talking exclusively to you.
This is a good post to take notice of, boys. The men who are the most succesful have the ability to make a woman feel extremely special in your presence, but do it without raining hollow, lame compliments on them. Eye contact is key, focus, body language, and all the other crap you've read about in the bible. Women love this feeling and they want to feel that way again.
 

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I know it isn't strictly the same thing but even when I first met many of my male mates some of them had a certain 'X-factor' about them. Something that made the different to the others. The way they spoke, the confidence they perpetuated, I think it's a cumulative effect.
 
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