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Going to the clubs & bars by yourself?

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Who does this,and how often

is it better without having a wingman, sometimes friends can slow you down.
 

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bradd80 said:
I do it once in a while. In fact, I'm contemplating doing it tonight.

I always have a few choices, but when I really feel like hitting on a girl and take her home I'll do it alone.

Personally, when I'm in the mindset of just trying to pick up a girl i prefer to be alone. And if I do go with friends, I'll try to make sure we came in separate cars so I don't get the "bros before hos speech" lol

lol thought I was the only one that do the separate car thing

but truthfully I never gone by myself, but tonight im going to try it out, I have a weird feeling im going to enjoy it though.
 

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That is how I game 90% of the time

Most of my dude friends have girlfriends, and still when you go out with your friends your body tends to hangout with them instead of approaching girls because it requires less effort.

If your learning game your buddies will be an audience which can hinder you. game is hard enough to learn, you don't need a bunch of friends snickering at you when you get rejected. Go out alone.

In my opinion going out alone IS GAME, it's the summit of game. I'm Australian and I went to America alone and did solo game around the country for a month, my game was moderate back then and now going solo is standard for me. It gets easier with repetition :)
 

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I went out alone like 98% of the time.

It's the only way, unless you have a really good wing which is hard to find.

The only drawback is the dreaded "Are you here by yourself?" question. I don't have a solid reply for that. Sometimes I lie. Sometimes I tell the truth.
 

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When you're traveling for business you have no other option, and the women won't mind, trust me. A good wingman helps they're rare. The average friend makes matters worse and if it's 4 or more guys together then forget it.
 

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Im been going out alone quite while now about three weeks in a row it starts to feel better and better and u start to become better and better in it once u start doing it.
i like even better going out alone than going out with some friends, like u said friends can slow u down.

Remember just dont drink too much or be ******* because u dont have a friends to depend on.
 

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bigneil said:
When you're traveling for business you have no other option, and the women won't mind, trust me. A good wingman helps they're rare. The average friend makes matters worse and if it's 4 or more guys together then forget it.
I agree 100%.

Being a lone business traveler is the perfect "excuse" to hit the bar or hotel lounge (or whatever) alone.

You can't be expected to have a buddy/wingman in a strange city.
 

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Like most in the thread, I went out alone 90% of the time. My friends weren't really into pickup, had steady girlfriends, that kind of stuff. I think it's better going out alone, although I admit there is a learning curve. At first you'll feel a little anti-social, but that fades and you get used to it. The main advantage being by myself, is that I was much more efficient. If I walked into a bar with buddies and there were no cuties, we'd sit around drinking waiting for them to show up. That was a big mistake. Now if I walk in and there's no action, I turn around and head for a different bar without even having a beer. I'm much more "mission focused". I don't really do night game much anymore though.
 

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Mike32ct said:
I went out alone like 98% of the time.

It's the only way, unless you have a really good wing which is hard to find.

The only drawback is the dreaded "Are you here by yourself?" question. I don't have a solid reply for that. Sometimes I lie. Sometimes I tell the truth.
Sometimes I say:

"My friends just left to hit another bar/club, but another buddy of mine might swing by here later."

OR

"I'm friends with the bartender so I'm just hanging out."

Don't think I've ever given an honest answer to that question so far. But going out alone really is the best way to game. More freedom and more privacy. Also, no one to judge you on who you take home. Anything less than a 7.5 and you have to deal with ball-busting.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
Sometimes I say:

"My friends just left to hit another bar/club, but another buddy of mine might swing by here later."

OR

"I'm friends with the bartender so I'm just hanging out."

Don't think I've ever given an honest answer to that question so far. But going out alone really is the best way to game. More freedom and more privacy. Also, no one to judge you on who you take home. Anything less than a 7.5 and you have to deal with ball-busting.

that second one was a dope one, im going to use that one
 

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What type of venue do you guys go to? Only things I can think of in my city are the night clubs for 18-22 or pubs where its mostly people going in groups to hang out. Kinda out of place as a 30+ to be going to either place alone.
 

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yyc12 said:
What type of venue do you guys go to? Only things I can think of in my city are the night clubs for 18-22 or pubs where its mostly people going in groups to hang out. Kinda out of place as a 30+ to be going to either place alone.
Casino bars. Ages 21 to 91 lol. In all seriousness, it's a wide age range.

Or a bar and grill place EARLY in the night say 5pm to 9pm.

Hotel bars/lounges are also good for a traveling mature man.

But your local bar or club on fri/sat after 9pm? Way too young for me.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Casino bars. Ages 21 to 91 lol. In all seriousness, it's a wide age range.

Or a bar and grill place EARLY in the night say 5pm to 9pm.

Hotel bars/lounges are also good for a traveling mature man.

But your local bar or club on fri/sat after 9pm? Way too young for me.
If you're just looking for ass then 18-22 is the perfect age! That's prime fresh meat right there! Easier to impress and more naive.

Also, a good number of women chase much older men for the maturity factor. They think men their own age are too broke and immature for them. A 30+ guy with his own car and place can beat out a 22 year old broke college kid easily. Sometimes it pays to NOT blend in with the crowd at a bar/club. Wear a suit and look rich/important if you are 30+ and the girls will take notice (is he the owner? Is he hosting a party?)

When I was in college I knew a good number of hot girls 18-22 that were chasing 30+ guys.
 

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yyc12 said:
What type of venue do you guys go to? Only things I can think of in my city are the night clubs for 18-22 or pubs where its mostly people going in groups to hang out. Kinda out of place as a 30+ to be going to either place alone.
The pubs you describe remind me of a classy bar I used to frequent. You need to frequent one or two of those places and become a familiar face to the bartenders and local patrons. I went to that bar solo to watch college football games and drink, not to hunt for women. Every now and then I'd introduce myself to a new couple or group and chat them up (make myself known). Apparently the menu was pretty good, I wouldn't know I never ate there. Their beer selection was phenomenal though. I could take any female I met elsewhere to THAT chosen bar and then back to my place ;)
 

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