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Going to strip clubs to desensitize?

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If you go to strip clubs and mingle with 20+ super hot girls, is it possible that you'd get desentitized and not so much intimidated my hot chicks?


Just a thought.
 

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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Are you suggesting that guys who are intimidated by hot chicks, should go to strip clubs to become more comfortable around women?
 

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Target_100 said:
If you go to strip clubs and mingle with 20+ super hot girls, is it possible that you'd get desentitized and not so much intimidated my hot chicks?
How do you mingle with 20+ hot girls in strip clubs? Most have like 3 or 4 girls dancing at any given time. Most of the people watching are old men and young guys.

If you want to desensitize you need to approach random women in the streets and college campuses. That's the real way to make you lose your fear of women.
 

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No, I just ask if someone has some opinions on this.


I definetely don't think it vould make you more nervous aroung girls. Personally I might become less intimidated, but I'm not sure how strong the effect is.
 

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F283000: Approaching is a sureshot way to loose anxiety. My question is wether going to a strip club makes you less indimidated by hot girls.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

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hey, i've been to strip clubs. it gives good ego boost for about 2 days. but thats it. it will never make you better with women.
 

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maybe you can practice your game with this chics cos they are "obligated" to stay with you and hear all you have to say; and if your game is thight then you will see the response in them

I have friends who had become fbuddys of some stripers and this girls had teach them many things about sex.
 

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whatever problems you're having with women won't get fixed in the long run by going to a strip club.
 

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btownbuck2012 said:
whatever problems you're having with women won't get fixed in the long run by going to a strip club.
thats sooooooooooooo true man
 

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Target_100 said:
If you go to strip clubs and mingle with 20+ super hot girls, is it possible that you'd get desentitized and not so much intimidated my hot chicks?


Just a thought.
Let's get to the cause here. Why are you intimidated by hot girls?

I bet you masturbate a lot, probably to porn as well.

Stop masturbating and you will get comfortable interacting with girls.

You might say: 'Oh that's BS.'

But I did guess right that you are a wanker
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Target_100 said:
If you go to strip clubs and mingle with 20+ super hot girls, is it possible that you'd get desentitized and not so much intimidated my hot chicks?
Maybe. I have a friend that occasionally drags me to this strip joint in the city and I haven't gotten better at anything other than talking to strippers. It's a waste of time to me. I don't see the point of paying chicks to give you blue balls.

Bottom line is that there's no comparison talking to hot chicks that are paid to talk to you and talking to hot chicks on the street that would pay NOT to talk to you.
 

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It's a completely different setting and a completely different scenario, and they aren't going to be interacting with you like real single women. Why bother wasting your money and time? There is no shortcut.
 

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its exploitation of men !

in spearmint rhinos in central london the girls are particuarly vulture-like... pretty crap TBH
 

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What it's pointless and unless you have a few gs of cash you're not going to get any action. My friend ****s girls left and right, the only time he goes to the strip club is when has a lot of money to blow for the hell of it.

Not too long ago he went and dropped 3,000$ one morning. (yes this all started @ 11 in the morning) He was getting fed steak by one stripper, got poured champagne by another and had another who danced for him.

He later ****ed a chic in the back, supposedly she wanted 800$ for the hour ****, yet he told her "Hell no" and she said ok "400$ since you made me ***" No bs, lol. Just thought I'd share this crazy story as at times I hang out with some wild ass foreigners, who don't give a Sh*t about anything. They would prob laugh at most of the **** they see on here!!
 

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kingsam said:
its exploitation of men !

in spearmint rhinos in central london the girls are particuarly vulture-like... pretty crap TBH
If you haven't figured it out yet, girls are amoral and expedient. When men, I mean suckers, I mean men are willing to shell out cash just to ogle hot girls, girls will milk the gravy train all day.

The bottom line if you are going to a strip club you are basically giving up complete control of the frame.

Don't blame the girls, the girls will exploit anything if given the chance. Blame the losers who are pathetic and weak.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Trader said:
If you haven't figured it out yet, girls are amoral and expedient. When men, I mean suckers, I mean men are willing to shell out cash just to ogle hot girls, girls will milk the gravy train all day.

The bottom line if you are going to a strip club you are basically giving up complete control of the frame.

Don't blame the girls, the girls will exploit anything if given the chance. Blame the losers who are pathetic and weak.

shut up virgin, stop giving advice

As for the original post in question, it is a BAD idea to try to use stripclub girls to help desensitize fear of being around hot women.

This is because in strip clubs, the women are walking prostitutes who don't actually give it up, they just try to collect $$ from you like homeless people on the streets, so they will FLOCK to you like girls flock to Tiger Woods.......but then when you go to a real club, you will have to usually do all the "flocking", as women never approach guys in clubs unless the guy is famous or really hot looking (in their eyes). In other words, you'd be in for a rude awakening in a real club after experiencing strip clubs in hopes of improving how you interact with hot women.
 

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Rescue Mission said:
shut up virgin, stop giving advice
Yawn - I don't listen to wankers who encourage others to wank away


Rescue Mission said:
The whole point is to NOT de-sexualize yourself, DO jerk off , and DO have sex, and DO get handjobs/bl0wjobs...........mix them all up, but the more you do all of them , the more you will be able to continue to do!!!

And as usual you really don't have any credibility since you are prone to exaggeration - you can cvm 3 times in 3 minutes? Check yourself, stand down

Rescue Missoin said:
Train yourself to LOVE cvmming, and over time, you will be able to do everything when it comes to being sexual!! You can have sex in the morning, whack off twice, have sex in the evening, whack off again before going to sleep, and wake up with morning wood, have sex again, then jerk yourself off and cvm on the girl's stomach 3 minutes later, and on and on and on and on. I can even cvm twice in 30 seconds if I want to, or 3 times in 3 minutes, no problem.
So obviously I will be ignoring your impassioned pleas
 

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First time I went to a strip club I was overexcited, laughing a lot, a bit shocked etc of seeing a bunch of hot naked girls dancing just a few feet from me. Next few times I went it was as if nothing. Just another 30 minutes with the buddies, drinking a beer, watching some hot naked girls dance and then do something else for the night.

So thinking about it the only way in which it has helped me is that in a dating situation I probably won't be getting overexcited if some girl starts getting naked and dancing for me. That's about it ;)
 

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I went to a strip club with my friend for the very first time last saturday night and I couldn't believe my eyes!!!!!..HB11..They were that fvcking HOT!!!!!..the lap dance was incredible..they weren't better than my ex but look wise, man these are the girls most guys don't have the balls to approach and I'm just turning each of them down when I'm getting offered for a lap dance. It was insane.

My first lap dance was from this fvcking hot japanese girl. Incredible fvcking body. Sorry for the language but I just did not expect the girls in the strip club to be that sexy and beautiful man.

It definitely help me in a lot of way because when I got out to the real world most girls were just butt ugly and I just lost the anxiety to approach. It's like asking a fat chick for a direction, not one bit of a hesitation.

Obviously I'd still get scared a lil if a girl is that good looking because I still have a lot to work on inner wise but other than that, man I don't care if I paid 20 bucks to get an HB11 grind her p*ssy all over my d*ck..she was grinding on my d*ck..

It was great experience and I definitely recommend every guy out there who hasn't gone yet. You will definitely get better with girls. You can practice your kino and everything.

Obviously you won't see how attracted they really are to you because they're paid to do what they gotta do but still you got an HB11 chillin with you right on your lap, kissing your cheek and all that..

Strip club definitely help me out. My standard went up to the ceiling and all the girls I had oneitis for is cured. My condifence went up and girls can see it! It helps a whole lot man.I don't know about you guys but it helped me for sure!
 

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vagrant said:
It definitely help me in a lot of way because when I got out to the real world most girls were just butt ugly and I just lost the anxiety to approach. It's like asking a fat chick for a direction, not one bit of a hesitation.



It was great experience and I definitely recommend every guy out there who hasn't gone yet. You will definitely get better with girls. You can practice your kino and everything.


Strip club definitely help me out. My standard went up to the ceiling and all the girls I had oneitis for is cured. My condifence went up and girls can see it! It helps a whole lot man.I don't know about you guys but it helped me for sure!
Thats what I was thinking too! Not to such a degree but anyway.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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