"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Going to France with a girl

Swashbuckler

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Next week, I'm flying with this girl to spend 18 days in France. It'll be an incredible trip. We're spending 3 days in Paris. I booked 2 nights in a hotel on the Champs-Elysee, and then we're taking a train to stay at my brother's apartment while he is in the US for the holidays.

I'm starting to get a little worried about being with a girl for so long though. I actually don't know her very well. We've been texting a lot the last couple months because we're going to France together.

The first night I met her was at her party one night. My roommate is really good friends with her, so I went to her party, and out of no where we end up talking for hours on her bed whilst 50-60 people were going in and out of her room. I told her that I'm fluent and French, and that I often travel to France, and so she begged me to take her with in December. My prior plans fell through, and so I asked her.

I didn't know it at the time, but apparently she had a boyfriend who was actually at the party that night who came in to talk to us as we both laid on her bed. She introduced him without mentioning he was her boyfriend, and when I found out from my roommate; I quickly thought again about taking her, but I decided not to because I didn't know who would spend $1,000 on a ticket to France so quickly, and before I knew it she broke up with her boyfriend after she accepted to go to france with me.

She's incredibly intelligent, which is why I was quick to think of her to go to France with me. She's applying to Harvard, Princeton, and so on for Graduate school.

I haven't really gotten to talk to her much. After she quickly accepted to go to France with me, finals and term papers came up, and then boom it's the holidays, and we're flying out on the 25th.

I'm really starting to wonder if this was a good idea. All the women around me because insanely jealous that a girl came into my life, and now I'm going to France with. I broke up with a girl over this. A couple girls who I was interested in have distanced themselves from me after hearing it. :\

Got any tips to spending 18 days with a girl in France? Was this a good decision?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ALPHAROMEO

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take her to the EIFFEL TOWER and to see MONALISA
enrol on a FRENCH course for 2 weeks that ll give you something to do and talk about

have sex the FRENCH way remember it s the FRENCH who invented sex

have sex in various locations like right in the middle of THE CHAMPS ELYSEES ( you might get arrested by the FRENCH cops though ) or even in the restaurant ( but you might have to pay for the smashed up cutlery

they re just suggestions though:kick: :flowers: :nono:
 

tafakna

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Swashbuckler said:
...so I went to her party, and out of no where we end up talking for hours on her bed...

...apparently she had a boyfriend who was actually at the party that night who came in to talk to us as we both laid on her bed. She introduced him without mentioning he was her boyfriend...

...before I knew it she broke up with her boyfriend after she accepted to go to france with me.
Sorry for as I digress; but I couldn't help it.

What kind of a loser let his girlfriend lay in bed talking for hours with an stranger?

Sounds to me, like just about anything you do will be way better than her previous 'boyfriend'.

It's wonderful to have clueless losers lowering women's expectations. So I think you're very safe during this trip...
 

Swashbuckler

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I don't really know if I want to get involved with her. I'm debating if I want to spin that plate; I probably should. I'll definitely get her in bed while we're over there, though.

It should be fun; I'll try to stop second guessing myself.
 

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sounds super romantic and everything .....but this girl is Hustlin you hard as hell. Watch how quick she's gonna dissapear after your little trip, you should just go alone man and work on your pimpin skills when your over there, alot more productive
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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steve38

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rocksoff said:
sounds super romantic and everything .....but this girl is Hustlin you hard as hell. Watch how quick she's gonna dissapear after your little trip, you should just go alone man and work on your pimpin skills when your over there, alot more productive
This. Either OP is fraudin' or he hasn't leaned anything from this forum. A trip to France is something most DJ's here would give their left nut for. And he is gonna spend it going AFC over a chick that is obviously using him. wow.
 

Perry

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steve38 said:
This. Either OP is fraudin' or he hasn't leaned anything from this forum. A trip to France is something most DJ's here would give their left nut for. And he is gonna spend it going AFC over a chick that is obviously using him. wow.
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i dont want to put bad thoughts into your head if you actually do go on this trip with her, but is there ANYWAY you can get out of this situation?
 

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I agree that she can't be trusted. Tell her you can't take her, because you don't know her well enough. Have fun in France man!
 

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Damn. spending 18 days with a stranger really sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Hopefully you'll learn from this mistake.
 

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whoa man, really? you haven't even been in a LTR with her and you're planning to take her to France? I was in a ~5 year relationship and I'd still think twice before dishing out that kinda cash on this girl. If anything, we'd split the bill if she really wanted to go.

Don't do it, man.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Swashbuckler

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Woah, woah, I didn't buy her ticket. She dished out $800 for the plane ticket. I'm not looking for a relationship. I have many women outside of this girl. I just wanted to go to France and work on my French. I speak French well, but I'm not fluent yet.

I went to Strasbourg for 14 days in May. I stayed with this French girl who I made out with outside her house. Then she came to the US in the summer to stay with me. I went off to Paris for a couple days and had sex with a girl in her hotel in Paris after she invited me to look off her balcony.

I'm taking her because she's a companion who already speaks Latin and wants to work on her French. I'm in the middle of writing a novel, and she's about to start working on a thesis. It just works out. Right now we're friends, and I'm definitely not looking for a relationship.

But given the choice between taking a beautiful girl and taking a bro. I decided this time to take the girl
 

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I took a trip to South America with a girl i hadn't even hooked up with- who had a boyfriend....

it was great. By the end of the first night we were in bed together.

Although **** hit the fan when we returned home... have bareliy seen her since.

It was worth the week though..

There is something sexy about spending time with a stranger in a foreign country...

guess im still stuck on before sunrise...
 
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