"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Going to First Teen Club Tonight!

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Going to First Teen Club Tonight!Edit:Check New Post for Field Report

Hey,

I and a guy I know are hitting up a teen club tonight-the first for the both of us. I plan to dress with button down shirt and stuff like that, but my question is dancing.
How do I grind? I have grinded a bit before, but I am so confused because my friends basically tell me to stay still and let her rub her ass in my ****, but I feel/it seems natural to move along with her. Plus, on these forums, it seems like that is what you want to be. I was even griding with a girl friend (not going out though) of mine, and I started moving a little bit and she reached back and grabbed my legs to hold me still. I am just pretty confused on the whole thing of grinding.
Lastly, any last minute tips on going to my first teen club? I take it, I get girls to dance with me by making eye contact, smiling, and saying, "Hey, you want to dance?." and then dancing. Is that correct?

Thanks!
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I hope you have fun tonight. Enjoy yourself you seem to be on the right track! Just do what feels right with the dancing
 

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Hey someone, come back with a field report!!!! I always talk with my friends about going to those, in fact, a friend of mine asked me if I wanted to go to one a couple days ago.

Doesn't your other thread ask the same stuff though?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137813
 

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LostAndConfused said:
Hey someone, come back with a field report!!!! I always talk with my friends about going to those, in fact, a friend of mine asked me if I wanted to go to one a couple days ago.

Doesn't your other thread ask the same stuff though?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137813
Yeah, pretty much. Sorry about that-just feeling a bit nervous (need to get over that) since this is my first time going to a club. Well, I shall hopefully write back later with a field report.

Thanks for the help!
 

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You don't stand still....... You just keep your **** on her ass and stand up strong no matter how hard they bump or shake ( these are the good ones) you are their to proved balance.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well, I went, and here is my field report:

When we went in, it was a bit different than I thought-a lot of people were dancing, but not everyone was. My friend and I just sort of stood around for a good while. I then got the balls to ask a passing hot girl to dance, and she smiled and said "no."
We were later hanging around and two hot girls saw us and asked us to dance. Of course, I and my friend said yes (I got the hotter one :) ) and I grinded with her. I tried to take into practice of what I read. I tried moving my hips around in an oval shape, and I would take my hands and direct her. It got pretty good too, with several variations. I would also try breathing on her neck, and moving my hands a little (not a lot though like I read) around the tops of her legs. After the dance though, we sorta just smiled and went our separate ways.
Later, through the dancing, I asked a couple of other girls to dance, and they said "no." It was getting really croweded now, like, it was pretty hard to move through the dance floor-I could never get towards the middle as I was looking for hot, single girls to ask to dance. I spent a lot of the time there just walking around the outskirts of the dance area, looking for ways to get in, girls to ask to dance, etc. But it got extremely croweded-you couldn't really dance or go on the dance floor unless you already found a girl it was so tight. I saw a lot of hot, single girls there, but when I would go onto the dance floor looking for some, it got really tight, that I would be tripping over someone as I asked a girl to dance.
Later, some of my other friends/people I know showed up, and one of them had a pretty okay looking girl without a dance partner and he grabbed me and had me dance with her. I grinded with her, but she was really short, and towards the end of that song, one of my legs was extremely sore. Plus, while we were dancing, it felt like we were uncomfortably being squished by everyone around us. Like I said, it was really tight. After the dance, again, we just smiled, and my friend told me in front of her to dance and stay with her. However, I wasn't that interested in her and I was there to improve my game, so I sort of stayed away from them, but still talked to them every now and then.
I spent a while after that, walking all around the outskirts of the dance floor trying to get in or find some girl(s) in there that I could go for. It was so crowded, that the friend who came with me and I decided to leave.
So, that was my experience at my first teen night club. Overall, the several girls I asked to dance said no, one hot girl asked me to dance, and my friend hooked me up with a dance with someone he knew.
So, any tips, comments, suggestions?

Thanks!
 

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Honestly if your there to improve your game don't go around trying to dance/grind with chicks.

Before I go further into this post let me just say a few things
- Never ASK a chick to dance, lead that sh!t...grab her hand and pull her on the dance floor or if your on the dance floor dance by yourself who gives a fuk what the dancing is, its about the energy your bringing. You will soon see the girls flocking to you or in proximity and thats when you can start grinding. Or you can just go up to a chick and playfully do some BS dancing (Your just having fun) and then just do some playfully twirls and even random silly dances, then if you want just grind (If thats what you want lol)

- LEAD, LEAD, LEAD the dancing...if your grinding you lead the rhythm and have her follow

Ok with that said now on to the real stuff. First of all grinding doesn't lead to nothing as you've learned that. If your there to improve your game you must approach them, talk over the music. If you've been in set for awhile and want to get her BT up a bit then pull her on the dance floor grind a bit, makeout and come off the dancefloor. From there you can just mix in making out and just talking gibberish.

I'm assuming you were stuck in your head because you were chode crystalling and watching the fun instead of being the one who is having fun and everyone is watching have fun. I already mentioned about you asking to dance is a big no-no, its even better if you had just came out of no where trying to grind on the chick.

Bottomline YOU weren't having fun, instead you were going around trying to find chicks to grind on (That didn't sound right lol) instead of just creating your own party and having everyone revolve around you.
 

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Thanks for the replies, but about the whole approaching a random girl and hoppin' and grinding-isn't that like sexual harrasment/stupid? What if she slapped me or something like that? Yeah, I know this is pretty much me just reverting to my "nice-guy" self *hits head*.
Anyways though, something I noticed was after a while there when I asked the few girls to dance (I could have asked more-one of my other friends got like 12 dances) was that I was taking my favorite lesson from this site (The Book of Pook) into account that action is better than in-action. Thought I'd just mention that for any future AFCs like me searching the forum in the future.
Additionally, you mentioned that dancing isn't a good way to improve my game. What would be a good way to improve my game? Especially, is there a way to do it at my school during the school day?
Thanks
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mastacheef said:
its a little too late and i don't know if you found this yet but check out the Dance Bible
Ugh....

Hey let me weed out some of the worse articles in the dance itself section of that Bible. The thing as a whole is GREAT and props to redspicyflag for compiling it, but some of the articles have approaches that just make you look creepy, unless you look like Brad Pitt. The inner game and extra reading is good though. I'll get back to you real quick.

Pay close attention to these articles in "The dance" section of the Dancing Bible:
*Newb Dance Thread
*The Club
*Dance Magic and Power of Eyes

And the advanced clubbin techniques is a good video to check out.
 
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someone800 said:
Thanks for the replies, but about the whole approaching a random girl and hoppin' and grinding-isn't that like sexual harrasment/stupid? What if she slapped me or something like that? Yeah, I know this is pretty much me just reverting to my "nice-guy" self *hits head*.
Anyways though, something I noticed was after a while there when I asked the few girls to dance (I could have asked more-one of my other friends got like 12 dances) was that I was taking my favorite lesson from this site (The Book of Pook) into account that action is better than in-action. Thought I'd just mention that for any future AFCs like me searching the forum in the future.
Additionally, you mentioned that dancing isn't a good way to improve my game. What would be a good way to improve my game? Especially, is there a way to do it at my school during the school day?
Thanks
It's all about the frame/state of mind your coming from. If you go in like the creepy guy just trying to grab chicks they will surely pull away. But if your going in like the fun guy having the time of his life and everything he is doing is just an expression of him having a good time then it will fly.

You improve your game by going up and approaching women and yes you can do it in school. You also could do dancefloor game but thats like a variation of game and shouldn't be your main focus at this stage.

If you want to improve your game when your at parties you gotta approach chicks and interact with them. All dance/grinding does is pump there emotions up and gives them validation. You won't consistently get laid from dancing/grinding but you can use it to pump a girl you've approached up and extract her out of there.
 

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I wish my town had teen nights. ****, I have to wait another year to go clubbing but when I get there all will be well :D
 

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Ok this isn't me but I think I'm giving up the dancing fellas. Apparantly I just looked gay and got heaps of **** the day awards. Now fck them haters but yeah I've been practisin and stuff just feels kinda bad to get burnt like that. Dayum.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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SinJester said:
Ok this isn't me but I think I'm giving up the dancing fellas. Apparantly I just looked gay and got heaps of **** the day awards. Now fck them haters but yeah I've been practisin and stuff just feels kinda bad to get burnt like that. Dayum.
Someone burnt you?
 

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Expression.

"Dude your as smooth as a cactus"
"Ooo burn"

Ya see?
 
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