Going out to eat...

[Omen]

I wanted to ask opinions about what you thought about first dinner dates.

Do you think in the womans mind, the type of place you take her tells her something about you?

For instance..Say you take her out to a pizza place (one of those brick oven ones that are kind of nice) and you order a pizza and then split it. You paid $10-$12 TOTAL.

Or... You take her to a nice classy restaurant where its $15-$20+ per person.

Do you think it matters to them, or that they pay real close attention?

I also wonder if you as guys think its over-kill to do a nice place on a first dinner date. Not just a random hey lets go out I dont know you. I'm talking about a woman you've built some comfort with and have gotten to know some. Is a classy place fine? Or should those be reserved. I mean taking a girl out to Applebees's in my mind usually isn't why I consider a nice dinner. Sure, some great stuff, but I feel you appear much more mature or even solid when you choose to take her to a nice place.

Any thoughts? Also too if you are female, feel free to chime in.

 

[intel123]

there is better then aplebess for sure. like olive garden . or a mexican resturant maybe chinese . . call mcdonalds and make reservations . hahah but these places i would save them for the second date... u know what i mean ? the first date maybe go with a more easier enviroment. somthin like aplebess but doesnt have to be . lke chedders ... or watever you got in ur area

 

[Omen]

I thought that maybe some extra thought or originality may do a tad better with the woman. Everyone goes the Applebee's but I was like... how many have gone here. And a place I was thinking I know this girl hasn't been too cause she told me. So I thought taking a woman to a new place would make her go... So much different than the last 3 guys who took me to Applebee's. So see what i'm saying? I guess its hard to tell. I talked to this one girl who went out to eat at the pizza place, and she was like we split a pizza. Now I know you cant eat a whole pizza unless you get a small one yourself, but I think it was almost a..... He can get away with a decent place, that is better than a pizza hut obviously, and then we split it, so he spends $6 on the date. I mean pure genius in his mind for getting away with $6 but I dont think she was really impressed.

 

[kdnash82]

I personally think dinner dates as first dates are boring. I'm usually trying to make a statement when I take you out. I want you to feel that I'm a fun person, adventurous, outgoing, and just plain different than any other guy that you've been with. Girls are quick to categorize. "You remind me of.... You act just like...." and so on. The last thing I want them to think is, "The guy I was with yesterday, brought me to this exact same resturant. In fact, we sat at that table right over there."

Some people think that the first date should be at a place like starbucks or something. First off, I don't drink coffee and the only tea I like is the southern kind (lots of sugar), so that's out of the question. I also think that it's cheap. I can understand that you don't want to blow all your money on some girl you've just met, but at least make it feel like a date.

This is the reason my first dates are always adventure dates. Putt Putt Golf, Go Kart Racing, Bowling, Lazer Tag, Pool. One girl that I was feeling a little too much, I took horse back riding and another to the target range (more expensive, but very fun). Aside from the horse back riding and shooting off some rounds, all those things will probably run you about $20, which plus tip is about the price of a meal for 1 person at Applebee's. So you just saved yourself $20 by not going on this dinner date. You've had fun, and you don't come across as the guy that she went out with yesterday.

Just my two cents.

 

[Omen]

I do like the adventure dates, and am the type to do those, but what happened was just a talk about dinner weeks ago as a joke to get this girl for $100 and then we played it out, and then we just joked about dinner. Then all the sudden it MAY actually turn into a real date with dinner. Not quite sure yet, but we'll find out soon. If not, no biggy. So we've joked for weeks about it, as a prank and joke, but now its serious talk and no bet involved and just me and her talking. It just ended up that way.

But I hear you about the adventure dates. I've always had a great time with those and always had compliments. Starbucks is overrated and too many go there on a date.

We have a Tea place here that is dedicated to that, and that is different cause most dont think to go for tea. Of course this woman lived in Korea for a while, so she's used to tea, sushi, and the like. She's a little more well rounded than others just from living outside the US before, so I need to be a little different than others.

 

[Dee-Zy]

Just bring her to a Vietnamese place, it's cheap AND it's good PLUS it's exotic

You win in every way!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Any thoughts? Also too if you are female, feel free to chime in.

Is this actually the "first date" or is it the first time that you've been out to dinner?

 

[kdnash82]

If you guys have already talked about going out for dinner, then I would go with the pizza idea you had. I think it's a good idea. Hopefully it doesn't come across as cheap though. Sometimes when you talk to women about going out for dinner, they automatically think, expensive, romantic resturant, or at least that's what I think they think.

You just gave me an idea though. A 1950's themed dinner date. Going to a cafe type place, (we have a few here) grabbing a burger and fries, and sharing a milk shake. Or skip the burger and fries and just share the shake. Idea might need some work, but you get the idea.

Anyway, go with the pizza date. Hopefully it's good pizza and a good environment. Keep everything up beat and fun.

 

[Omen]

I messed up. She lived in Tokyo Japan.

Francisco... It would be a first date if it happens. It was a funny joke and bet at first, but then it turned into a real deal. Again I dont know if its going to happen, but she knows, and i'm just waiting on her response. She was like... I thought all of this was a joke. I was like at first it was, but you know.... So IF it happened it would be the first time we would do anything besides see one another at work.

And I dont want a lecture from people about dont date girls at work cause i'm not staying there much longer anyway. A few people do it and have been doing fine for months.

kdnash... The pizza deal was actually not my idea. Some other guy took her out last week to that. I know him, and by the talk we had, she didn't seem as thrilled as she probably thought. Not sure, but I said this...

So when is the last time you went out to dinner on a date? She was like... Well X did take me to X but its been over a year. Then I was like so you went with X then. Yeah! Then I asked her what type of pizza she had and she told me and said... He got a pizza for both of us and we split it. I said that's cool, I like so and so pizza with the olive oil stuff you can drizzle on top. Then I started walking away and she goes... So no comment? I said about the pizza? She was like never mind.

I knew what she was asking but I just played dumb. She was wanting me to comment on X that took her out last week. Since I wasn't ever originally after her, it didnt bother me.

So that was another guy who did the pizza deal. And what I was actually saying was I think it came off cheap after she mentioned it to me. Almost like... If you are going to take me out, at least do more than that. I mean sure you get a place better than McDonalds, but at the same time you can spend $4 per person there, so its not too much less than $10-$12 or so total for a small or medium pizza to split.

Yeah, we have a similar 1950s place here where they dress old school and do the malts and burgers, etc etc. Cool place.

There are many places, and first she'll have to see what she wants to do. I think she was so confused she wasn't really expecting me to be serious. And I haven't seen her since I was.

But at any rate, she isn't a stranger. And for added bonus to set me apart, I told her I knew how to make sushi. And that should give it a little boost seeing how she lived in Tokyo.

I think guys need to learn to do something unique or different that most others dont do. Learn how to make sushi, make wine, or anything that your average guy wont be able to do.

Btw... when I cook for you, we'll be drinking wine I made. WHAT? WOW, how cool.

Anyway I think something like that sets you apart from every other dude out there, and can be great things to slip in to create higher value. And it can come out with just general talk. Oh speaking of food, did I mention I can make sushi? Or.... Speaking of wine, you should try the wine I make sometime. I just got done making a few bottles last month.

 

[Dilberto]

Just the fact she is willing to have a meal with you.....makes her more likely to have sex with you. Women associate sex with food, and eating. That's why the colors red(sex) and yellow(warmth) are on the logos of most eating establishments. Those colors are shown to get people's hunger responses going, and mouths watering- at the mere sight of them together.

No, it doesn't matter WHERE you take them, to eat. As long as you both have the opportunity to converse with each other, without external distractions.......is another reason why dates start this way.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Just the fact she is willing to have a meal with you.....makes her more likely to have sex with you. ...

You can't be serious! If this were true AFCs with empty wallets because of all of their dinner dates would be monopolizing the poon market! They'd be buying meals all over the place just to get laid!

Women are notorious for going out with guys to get a free meal. They can determine during dinner whether they like you enough to allow you to take them out for another meal. If they decide that the chemistry isn't there the night wasn't a total lost, at least they were fed once!

This may not be the rule but most of the time women expect the whole dinner thing. If they were really into you would it matter the venue?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Francisco... It would be a first date if it happens. It was a funny joke and bet at first, but then it turned into a real deal. Again I dont know if its going to happen, but she knows, and i'm just waiting on her response. She was like... I thought all of this was a joke. I was like at first it was, but you know.... So IF it happened it would be the first time we would do anything besides see one another at work.....

Personally I'd keep it light in the beginning. Coffee after work at some trendy independent shop works just fine for a first date, maybe that tea shop you mentioned. Besides, do you want focus on impressing her with the quality of the food or by the quality of your character?

 

[kdnash82]

Women are notorious for going out with guys to get a free meal. They can determine during dinner whether they like you enough to allow you to take them out for another meal. If they decide that the chemistry isn't there the night wasn't a total lost, at least they were fed once!

He is absolutely right. Even my current girlfriend admitted this to me. She said that she would go out on dates with a lot of guys to see a movie and get dinner for free all the time. After the date, she wouldn't even bother seeing them again. Wouldn't even answer her phone if they called.

Funny this is, that I was almost this guy. A friend of mine gave me her number. I called her up and asked her out. She declined. Next day she calls back and says that she wants to go out. Being very AFC, I tell her that I would take her to a movie. We meet up and the movies weren't playing until very late, so we decided to go get something to eat. Ate our meal and I drove her back to her car.

The next day she calls me up and asks if I want to come over. She knew how much I loved japanese curry and when I got to her place, there was a nice big bowl waiting for me on a dinner tray in front of the tv.

She must have really enjoyed that steak huh?

 

[Cash37]

Id do multiple venue changes.. don't bet your whole experience with this woman on one restaurant. The place could suck or have bad service and ***k up your moods.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I try to only take a girl places that I like to go, including restaurants. If I am having fun and doing what I like, then paying does not seem so AFC. Also, dinner for two at a typical Chinese/Thai place near me is under twenty bucks, so it's still pretty cheap.

 

[Lexie]

I think a lot of where you go depends on what you want the date to feel like. If you just want a fun, casual date, sure go for the pizza place. If you want something more serious, spring for something nice and unique. I think Applebee's, Chili's, mid-range places like that are great for first dates, and they're not too formal. If it's lunch instead of dinner, most girls love Panera, McAlister's, things like that. Plus you don't box them into ordering something like at a specialty place (pizza, seafood, etc), unless you both agree on it.

 

[moto]

who pays?

 

[Omen]

who pays?

What do you mean who pays? The guy pays. Did I miss something

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

What do you mean who pays? The guy pays....

Why?

 

[Ken785]

To start off this date, I begin with a little history of the date to be. She's blonde, she's beautiful, has an amazing body, and she knows all of this. She is constantly being approached and harassed by guys, so she knows her sh!t doesn't stink and she can get whatever she wants.



I pull up to her house, get out of my car, and knock on her door. She opens it and wowsers!...my stomach drops as I see that she spent hours getting ready and it shows. Her dress looks amazing, she smells great, and I give her a hug and we start off on our way. The destination: the most expensive and fancy ocean view restaurant in the area. (I was in San Diego at the time). We arrive, promptly on time for the reservations I had made. We get seated, stare at the ocean for a minute, and begin a conversation.



Things are going well. We order a couple drinks, get some appetizer, and soon dinner and desert comes. At this time we're both having a blast, loving the food, the view, and the good company we are giving each other. People in the restaurant are staring at this amazing girl, and looking at me in awe of how a guy like me can get such things in life.



We're holding hands across the table, things are heating up and I know she is having a great time. While this is going on, I receive a phone call, and advise my date I have to step out for a minute and I will return promptly.



Five minutes goes by, and the waiter comes to the table to drop off our check. She looks at the bill, and is astonished. This is definitely the most expensive restaurant. Ten minutes goes by and she starts getting worried since I have yet to return. Fifteen minutes goes by and she freaks out. She reaches for her purse, but she then remembers how its in the car.



She starts making a commotion. I am nowhere to be found. What happened?





Cut to the end. I bounced. She had her stuff in my car.



The prize.... killing her "Sh!t don't stink" attitude; almost $200 in her wallet, a cell phone, credit cards, and her house and car keys.



The lesson learned....She spent the rest of the date in the kitchen, wearing that beautiful dress, washing dishes with the workers until she could pay the bill, or until one of her friends showed up to bail her out. Poor girl. Next time she knows not to tell her friends about how much money I have or how she's gonna try to get her hands on it. Just try to come to me with that kind of attitude. This is what happens. You get punked!!!!

**this story has been edited a little bit, one of my old friends found this story on the internet and put it in his myspace blogged claiming to be his...people actually buy it...lol