"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Going out Solo?

Weezy

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So I'm 30... And most of my good wings are married or not that into going out anymore.

I still get carded all the time and have great success when I do go out.. but finding a wing is tough.

What do you guys suggest? Do you just go solo, or do you try and find a good wing?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Splendidostring

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I don't believe in "wings". They can only end up ****-blocking you. Just find some people you know (not friends) who are going out and tag along. Then start searching among the "x" population.

gl.
 

blue_eyed_devil

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First post in a long time. I don't even remember my old username. Been in an LTR, out of it, now. Back in the game and WOW, has it changed.

But here's what works for me. It worked at 32, and it works now at 38.

Go solo. Always.

But go someplace to DO SOMETHING. Don't go to a bar to drink alone and look at girls, don't go to a club to stand around alone and look for girls to dance with. That makes you look pathetic.

Go to an art gallery. Go to a book signing. Go to a concert. Go to a rodeo. Go snowboarding. If you're somewhere having a good time -- and NOT looking around to get laid -- you will meet girls. Women like guys who are fun.

Seriously, wherever you go, don't be looking around scanning for chicks. Women spot that action a hundred yards away and you are dead in the water when they see you on the hunt, especially if you're older. If you're having fun and you talk to a girl who's also having fun -- hey! You're 90% of the way there. Lock up a date and then close the deal. It also helps close the age gap if you meet while doing something you both enjoy.

The plus side is, if you go out to do something you enjoy and you DON'T meet any girls, then you still did something you enjoy. No more "wasted nights."
 

Forty0ztoFreedom

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The worst part is just getting up and going in there yourself. That anxiety. Its like we fear everyone in the bar stopping and laughing because you didn't have anyone to go with. Once you're in its not that bad. I end up drifting off alone at times when I'm with friends anyway. Who could tell the difference? And once you do start chatting people up, most outsiders would assume you went together, or at least met up.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Romeo1

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Im with OP!

Yeah me two,i usually go out with my buds,but some times,they either have no money,or dont wanna go out.None of these guys as my wingmen,there just buds i go out with,but dang i wish i had someone on da same page as me,so i agree with the OP on this i two need advice on this! In the end i just end up staying home,when i really wanna go out,i get held back!
 
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