“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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First time out with her. I'm going to get some beers. How can I avoid running up a tab. This has happened to me before. The girl decides she doesn't like me so orders a few drinks for the hell of it. Any way I can weasel?
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by matius
First time out with her. I'm going to get some beers. How can I avoid running up a tab. This has happened to me before. The girl decides she doesn't like me so orders a few drinks for the hell of it. Any way I can weasel?
If your this cheap, you don't deserve to get this woman, you remind me of George Costanza from Seinfeld.
 

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Wtf dude, how much is it for a drink in your country ? Over here if you ring the bell in a bar and pay for everybody you can do it with less then 30$ most of the time ! I mean a bear is 1$ over here, so if there's 30 people that's already alot for a bar no ? So buy her loads of beerss, and at the end of the date rape her ... just kidding, go to a normal bar, you will not spend more then 10$, no way in hell ... Or just tell her 'I've only got this much blbla' I don't think it's a massive turn off, I mean if you're still in college, it's normal to have a fixed budget, so if she ain't a nutcase she will understand that .. I don't see the point in dating her if she doesn't understand it, tell her to marry a bank and **** off. if she starts ordering alot and you know it's not going ok, just say 'Ow I have to go' pay for the drinks, and leave before she orders 30 ****tails :p
 

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LOL- Yeah, what's wrong with George. :cool:

Look man, if you have a couple drinks that's fine. But when you take home a $40 cheque because some girl dissed you, that's BS. I'm done being taken advantage of, so if that's wrong to you KMA.
 

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Not saying it's going to go down like that, but I just remember the times where I tried so hard, bought a meal...only to have the food thrown back in my face (kna whatta mean).
 

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You say it yourself 'I tried so hard', by all the reading you've done by know I'm sure you know there's no point in trying so hard in a materialistic/needy way. So you won't fall in that trap again, you're going for drinks, not for food, drinks are cheap, if she disses you send her over to KMA =O
 

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Originally posted by matius
LOL- Yeah, what's wrong with George. :cool:

Look man, if you have a couple drinks that's fine. But when you take home a $40 cheque because some girl dissed you, that's BS. I'm done being taken advantage of, so if that's wrong to you KMA.
Its your fault, i never invite a first time date to a great Restaurant or a bar, the first dates should be relatively simple like a coffe house, a movie, or what ever as long as its only to get to know if you and her are compatible, if you do realize theres some atraction betwen you and her after a few dates, THEN you invite her to a nice place.
 

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yeah dude, I made the mistake my first couple of dates of doing the dinner-and-a-movie, how could I have known going for a simple drink was waaay more effective, and alot less expensive
 

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Lol...true dat true dat. I've not taken a girl to a nice place to eat on a first date before...it actually happened after a couple times out in that situation. :(

But I hear ya on the coffee house...

Charisma? Where are drinks cheap. Don't get me wrong, I like beer and I'd like to have a drink when I meet someone.
You say it yourself 'I tried so hard', by all the reading you've done by know I'm sure you know there's no point in trying so hard in a materialistic/needy way.
Absolute.

Let me re-word what I've written.

If she is a cool chick. She will stop after a drink or two. She likes you, she might think to herself that's it.

If she doesn't, boom give me the grey goose vodka mixed with gold dust potion drink and absolutely expect you to pay.

So rather than say I'm weaseling out of drinks in a cheap way. I'm talking about getting out of the sly ones with no interest. This is what I meant originally.
 

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Aaah sorry, I misread then, I thought you meant that she would start ordering one drink after another. Well for a start, over here drinks are cheap in every single bar that doesn't have waiters ..

Let's say you are there in a place, where they serve vodka etc.. and she's going to ask one asap because the date is going wrong. You can just say "I'm sorry .. waiter .. cancel that order, it seems I'm a little short on money .." since the date was going wrong anyway.

'But what if the date is going great, and she orders one ?' Then the date ain't going great, she's just a ***** :D If she's worth matius' time, she will stick to the normal stuff, unless you order some freaky drinks. (and even then .. if she's a sweet girl she will stick to the normal stuff unless if you tell her it's ok to order something else then water ;))
 

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Thanks, actually that's a cool idea...no cancel that I gotta kick it. I like that.
 

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$$$

You are one cheap bastard...maybe you should focus on getting a life instead of trying to get women....
 

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No, I'm not.

I'm surprised others can't empathize in that, some woman at some point took advantage of you monetarily. Honestly, maybe I'm the only one. In regards to this date, it's not a major concern of mine to avoid paying for drinks, it is a concern of mine not to get ripped off. And I don't expect it to happen. Just learning for the future.

So, if you want to help and make suggestions cool, if not, direct yourself to the section where I give a damn.
 

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Hey I can feel you Matius, you ain't being cheap, you're just not wasting money on b!tches, and that's a good thing.
 

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Yeah, wasn't bad. We drank beer. I got the first pitcher, she got the second...that's the way it's suppose to work.
 

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Originally posted by jlujan
, the first dates should be relatively simple like a coffe house, a movie, or what ever as long as its only to get to know if you and her are compatible, if you do realize theres some atraction betwen you and her after a few dates, THEN you invite her to a nice place.
Dude your 100 percent right.....The coffee house is perfect...Why? think about it...How many coffees' can you drink when you go to a coffee house? one...yup thats it. take a girl out to a coffee house and your gonna spend a whopping 3-4 bucks on her...If things are going well, second date another day, or if really, really well, invite her back to your place for drinks, preferably the alcohol kind.
 

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there is nothing wrong with not wanting to waste money on that chick. Its not a money thing its a principle thing. If we were going out together Id buy 2 drinks maybe. I never buy drinks for chicks in clubs thats a no-no. I hat efeeling like I spent money on a chick and have nothing to show for it. No one like to be used so I don't blame you one bit
 

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Originally posted by princelydeeds
there is nothing wrong with not wanting to waste money on that chick. Its not a money thing its a principle thing.
Frankly, theres no such thing as that, any real man would not care about spending some bucks on a woman, even a woman that doesn't deserve it, ITS A REAL PRINCIPLE THING.

To show that your worried about that means that either:

A.-Your broke

B.-Your way too cheap

A is completely understandable, as long as you admit the truth and don't try to sugar coated saying its a "principle" thing, and B is a problem, a cheap man is a real turn off for most women.
 
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