“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Going on a date with someone I met online.

ssj4halo

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So i met this girl online named Mandie on plentyoffish.com. We have been sending each other emails all last week. She lives in my college town and I was home for break. I get back to my college town and tell her that we should meet up. She gives me her number(all through email). I just called her up. Tell me how you guys think I should work this out

Me: Hey whats up mandie, this is XXX, we were talking online.
M: Huh? wait I can't hear you hold up...Who is this again?
Me: this is XXX, we were talking online. We were gonna go to yogurt land earlier today but you had work(she had work so we ended up not going but said she is on spring break and is free for the most part)
M:eek:h hey yea whats up
Me: hey yea, so wanna go on monday, around 3-4
M: Go where?
Me: yogurt shack
M: yea sure uh. I might have work though.
Me: How often do you work?
M: Monday through Saturday, but I am on spring break now so I might get more hours.
Me: hmm okay then. tell me the times you are free and I will tell you which one of those times will be convinient for me(available to me)
M: okay!(blabbering about something don't remember)
Me: Okay then, lets hit the place on monday. If you end up having to go to work then just call me up and we can rescehdule.
M:eek:kay, sounds good.
Me: Alright, I will talk to you later.
M: bye!!


We talked about music, movies, games in our emails. I made fun of her playing drums and she was a good sport about it. We had a lot in common. I did future projections(where you put this crazy situation and pretend that we are going to do it in a few years ex: we should go to a cullinary school and graduate. start up a small business in Paris where you can do all the cooking while I count up all the money) She reacted very positively about it.

My phone conversation with her had no sexual content. It was simply lets do X Y Z at so so time. kinda bland. Hopefully this works out...I'll update on monday. But One last question. should I keep responding to her last email? or just don't send emails until we meet up on monday?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Scars

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Her interest level seems low. I wouldn't be surprised if she flaked. Not to burst your bubble or anything. None the less, if you do see her have a good time and maybe bust her balls a little bit more to raise that attractive level up. Good luck.
 

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yeah. I was aware of that when I talked to her. I was trying my best to keep my cool and think positive and not worry about the result and ****.

But where I messed up was ending it to quickly and not making the conversation fun.

Should I email her back? Or just wait until sunday/monday until she calls.
 

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I think contacting her anytime between now and then would make you seem a little try-hard. Call her Monday. You have to anyway to make sure your plans didn't fall through. If you actually go on the date, that's your chance to be more interesting, funny, ballsy, and opportunity to show her the PRIZE that you are. If she cancels, it's most likely due to low IL. I wouldn'y even attempt another date and just next her.
 

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Absolutely, I would definitely try and keep this lead warm. I actually remember losing a girl like this back when I first started. We would text each other back and forth and we actually set up a date via text message.

She ended up flaking on me because I was too chicken **** to call her up and keep her "warm".

If you can, I would honestly advise trying to get her on the phone, if you can have a decent conversation with her on the phone, it shouldn't be too difficult getting her on a date. She just needs that initial comfort and wants to know that you're not some wierdo.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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ssj4halo said:
should I keep responding to her last email? or just don't send emails until we meet up on monday?
If you rob a bank, do you go bank to the bank and show the money off the teller or do you get out as fast as you can? It would be ridiculous to contact her before Monday. Way too many things could wrong: she could realize she's not interested, she could think of some excuse not to meet you, you could say something wrong, you could reply and then she won't respond for a week. Why would you open up another avenue for her to cancel your date?

She said Monday, you stick to Monday with no contact in between.
 

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dude............u know where she works..........stop by say hi ask her when she is done.......say I gotta talk to you when do U get off............then show up at that time.

your phone game was weak.............u need a nic name for her so she recalls instantly WHOM she is talking to, sounds like a lot of guys call her. SO to counteract this..............move to the front of the line..........first come first served and I aint talking about her work motto either. Get on her priority list and be way ahead of those other lame offers she is getting.
 

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Yougurt shack is gay, take her for coffee, a beer, or dinner... Maybe invite her to a party or something at night..
 

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I was gonna say coffee but its spring time and its getting hella hot where I live. I dont know, maybe next time.

Anyways, I got an update. She emailed me around 2pm today telling me that she has no work monday-wednesday. I haven't responded to her previous email nor her new one. She then CALLS me at 7-8 pm today and tells me this news herself and we confirm for tomorrow.

The fact that she did both things means maybe her interest level was not as low as I thought it was. But, I am getting butterflies again. I feel like im gonna mess this up(I tend to only get 1-2 dates before they flake from the girls I meet). Trying to keep my mind of this and just do hw and just chill.

Thanks for the input guys. I'll keep you guys updated tomorrow.
 

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Alright first date went well. We walked around the city eating yogurt and I tried doing all the **** I learned on this site. Overall it went pretty well. ONly compliaints are that we didn't kino THAT much. The date ended with just a hug(gdam but I really didnt care).

She seems pretty enthusiastic about meeting again. She it like a HB7(two years younger than me lol). We agree on bowling tomorrow at 1pm. She said she sucks as bowling buts its okay. The thing is, I seriosely suck at it too(im the one who told her lets go bowling). I can bowl 90-100. Anyways, any tips on what to do tomorrow to escalate?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ssj4halo said:
Alright first date went well. We walked around the city eating yogurt and I tried doing all the **** I learned on this site. Overall it went pretty well. ONly compliaints are that we didn't kino THAT much. The date ended with just a hug(gdam but I really didnt care).

She seems pretty enthusiastic about meeting again. She it like a HB7(two years younger than me lol). We agree on bowling tomorrow at 1pm. She said she sucks as bowling buts its okay. The thing is, I seriosely suck at it too(im the one who told her lets go bowling). I can bowl 90-100. Anyways, any tips on what to do tomorrow to escalate?

After the game, notice, or comment on her hands, as in "the reason I won/lost is because you have small/large hands" type of comments ------------>compare your hands to hers----->palms against palms------>start massaing her forearm---->when she says "oh, that feels good", tell her "oh, I better stope then", tease, stop, go back to it.

Doesn't matter if KINO stops, at this point you have established KINO and she is ok with it, so you can just re introduce it later and it will be no big deal. Plus you are always progressing physically, onto the next level.
 

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Things could go well, above all, do what you want to do and try not to impress her purposefully. Your best game comes out when you aren't thinking about the outcome.........when you're just in the moment being who you are, not who you think she wants you to be.

Be the "Man".
 

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You need to chill. If you can GET a date with them, your looks and initial game is ok.Next time you want a kiss, during the hug-use your finger to lift her chin and kiss her.NOW I said finger[side],not hand. If she lets you lift her head, she knows what is coming and is ok with it. From then on-2steps forward,1 step back. Play hard to get-don't try to steal home from first base.If you act like it's no big deal if you don't get laid, she'll be more interested.

AS far as the other reasons you can't get date #3 : are you boring? Do you have any hobbies? Women LOOOOOOOOOOVE to talk, you need to be able to keep the conversation going,can you?
 
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Its spring break, go be a tarzan and get yourself a Jane! Im glad the first date went well, just remeber since its spring break she might be busy with her female friends planning a trip or something?

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sodbuster- the first date we talked for more than an hour straight(with like 3 pauses). I just did that multiple conversational thread thing and we had tons to talk about. The place I am stuck these days is trying to get that sexual tension/vibe at will.
I feel dirty doing it, but I know that its normal and I gotta do it anyways.

She has to go somewhere later tomorrow(it is spring break), but I got her for the early afternoon.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I'm gonna try em out tomorrow. Im really not sh1tting my pants or anything. Just a little nervous(which is normal I think). She specifically said she didn't want a long term relashionship in her profile, so I am going to try to advance as much as I can.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So we ended up bowling. It was pretty good. I did the hand thing and it worked out great. Tons of hi-fives and hugs and C&Fs. She went to the bathroom and when she was coming back, this one 6 year old was asking me to teach him how to curve the ball(bowling). I was teaching it to him and his brother(8 yrs old?). She totally saw it and I bet it was a big DHV spike. The little dude almost got it as well.

After that was all done with we ended up walking outside. She suggested to go to the arboretum. This is basically like a 2 mile pathway that has a lake flowing down the middle...a really nice place. At the end there a park sorta. So we walked and chatted damn I serisoely tried everything I had in my mind. The 4 question game, thumb wrestle, throwing grass and wow she reciprocated. I negged her(imperfection wise), carried her(was trying to help her do pull ups), I made all the choices(she had no say for the most part, she played by my rules lol), made her jump through my hoops(told her to get this/that for me even though I coulda done it myself easily), she called me a jerk too many times. We were touching each other every 1 minute in some way. i can go on :]. If you guys can't tell I am really happy right now LOL.

I pushed/pulled so much damn. We were sitting in the park for like 1 hour and just talked and kinoed big time. I didn't have the balls to kiss her. She gave me so many chances too....

Anyways we ended up eating at the grill. It was nice. She wanted to walk back to her home, but I offered a ride beacuse it was hella cold outside(she was complaining that it was getting cold before). I told her that Ill call her later and she was okay with it. I then KISSED her on the lips twice and she left back into her house.

Overall, we were out for 4 and a half hours. her mom(and step mother) called her and she already told them my name i guess. They were like, "wow, are you STILL with him??". Anyways I think it went great.

My only concern was not kissing her at the park. Now i am at an unkown territory.(past gf I never really kissed she was hella conservative). I don't know if I should call her...wait for her to call..text her??...how to bring up the gf/bf conversation up...If anyone can help me with that it would be greatly appreciated.

oh and one more thing. THANKS A SH1T LOAD GUYS. This forum is like godsend. One of the better days of my life.

Oh and I guess she really doesn't have any plans for tonight/tomorrow night she says. Should I invite her over or something or would it be too soon?
 

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bump, some input anyone? Should I call her tomorrow because I kissed her today? Or give it the normal 2 day wait.
 
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