"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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going into business with former fling/gf?

Heretolearn

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Hi,

I am considering becoming business partners with a girl G. The business idea is Gs and is really good. I would do the business management side of it. We have 5 more persons involved for respective areas.


G background
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We worked together on a job say 3-4 years ago. We kept in contact via email but both had partners at that stage. Nothing serious. I broke up with my GF and was single about 6 months and started hanging out with G. We started to get physical and hang out more and I told her I loved her (very quickly). We hung out more but it was obvious to me that we had no future (incompatible lifestyles).

I broke up which was received mutually. We both agreed we were never a couple anyway - just a fling.

It has now been about 2 years. She has had many relationships and is in one currently.

We stay in sporadic contact as friends.

I have absolutely no feelings for her in that way. I do not even want anything physical.


BUSINESS?

Verdict?

What should I watch out for?

*there is a fair bit of contact early on but then not as much. I want to get out of the business pretty quickly. I see it as a 5 year learning process.

I have a limited experience in developing and running businesses.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chrispy

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It sounds to me the issue will lie largely on business risk, not the fact she's a former fling. Also, since the emotional attachment isn't there I don't see much of a problem. Just get all the legal stuff of the business sorted out so every business partner knows how much he/she has in it, etc.

Good luck on your startup!
 

Heretolearn

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thanks guys - my biggest concern is the business. I am not putting much money into it but a LOT of time.

I would hate for that time to be wasted but I always manage to make the most out of situations in the sense that even if it flops then I shall meet some contacts and develop some skills and experience.

I shall keep in touch :)
 

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Originally posted by yendor28
thanks guys - my biggest concern is the business. I am not putting much money into it but a LOT of time.

I would hate for that time to be wasted but I always manage to make the most out of situations in the sense that even if it flops then I shall meet some contacts and develop some skills and experience.

I shall keep in touch :)
Time IS money.

Be VERY selective of who you enter into business with. ESPECIALLY so with people who you are related to or are friends with. EVEN MORE SO with someone who you have been romantically involved with. I would say NEVER get involved with an ex lover, but hey, never say never.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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