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Going in for the kiss and getting rejected

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Just to clarify, when I say 'getting rejected', I don't mean the girl walking off but rather just moving away/pulling back.

This has happened a few times now and yet every time I've still managed to keep her talking to me/kiss her again properly later but I don't fully understand what it's about. I've always found that it's important not to let it faze me otherwise it can lead to the girl walking off.

Part of me believes it's a **** test and the other half of me leads me to believe that sometimes I'm moving too quickly ie. need to build up a little more rapport.

What are your thoughts/experiences guys?
 

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It isnt a Sh*t test is just plain old rejection.
 

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It could be rejection...although it can be hard to say without being there. Kino beforehand?

Maybe you're moving in too fast.

Something that has worked well for me is to go in slowly.

And then when you know she wants it as well....just pull back a bit with a smile.

And then move back in.

Push/pull, and it has worked for me before.
 

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GetOveIT said:
It isnt a Sh*t test is just plain old rejection.
Definately isn't rejection. I only consider it rejection if the girl walks away.

I've been in the situation several times where I've gone in for the kiss, the girl's pulled away, I've carried on the banter for a while longer, gone in again and had her reciprocate fully.

It leads me to believe that on the occasions it's happened I've gone in too early but I was curious to know what others thought. I did consider the possibility of it being a sh*t test.. purely because guys with lower self-esteem would be ashamed and walk away (this happened in my AFC days).

Still interested to hear what others think though
 

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runner83 said:
It could be rejection...although it can be hard to say without being there. Kino beforehand?

Maybe you're moving in too fast.

Something that has worked well for me is to go in slowly.

And then when you know she wants it as well....just pull back a bit with a smile.

And then move back in.

Push/pull, and it has worked for me before.
Nice idea that. And yes there's definately kino etc going on beforehand. I'll basically flirt/play with the girl until I feel I've got her in a position where she's comfortable and then I'll make a move... I guess you're right though, it seems as though sometimes I do move too fast ;)
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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dj_china said:
What's ASD? :confused:

EDIT: Ah "anti slut defence". Never heard of it myself but I suppose it makes sense if I'm trying to kiss them in public...
 

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SteR said:
What's ASD? :confused:

EDIT: Ah "anti slut defence". Never heard of it myself but I suppose it makes sense if I'm trying to kiss them in public...
Yeah I just encountered the ASD the other night...lol started making out with her (mind you first date)....well I started moving in on her neck and usually this works great, but I got the "bit too much" whatever cool said good bye. Stayed cool about everything. day later, went out again, she came to my place after a few drinks(left her car there), I played it cool, said drive safely gave her a nice hug and kissed her passionately as hell, (imagine her panties got wet pretty quick) as she used the ol' "I want to see your room and I want to lay down bit" excuse :crackup: she was in my bed buck naked within 15 minutes!!
 
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