Going from just C/F to the next step in clubs?

[SteR]

Hey guys, I'm curious as to how I should move from being c/f with a girl (and getting interest) to getting a kiss/getting laid in a club?

There have been countless times where I've managed to have great convo with a girl where everything seems to be going well then I just have no idea what to do next. How do I turn it from just playful flirting etc to something more serious in a club?

 

[Desdinova]

Who says you need to get serious? You don't need to be romantic to get a kiss. It's all about flow. C/F combined with Kino should get you a kiss.

 

[xblitz44x]

a) This ****y/funny thing has been emphasized so that you can prove how "cool" and "not needy" you are. But it's usually not effective because anytime you have to go out of your way to prove how cool you are, you look like a god-damn smacked ass. A person who is truly 'confident' and 'cool' doesn't have to go out of his way to convince people of that. He can bust on himself and his true confidence radiates through his pores naturally. So be careful with your ****y/funny.

b) Dance. If you don't like dancing, get the hell out of the club. You can't talk in clubs, it's too loud. So if you can't talk, and you don't dance, the club game is not for you and you'll spend many'a frustrating night yelling into girls' ears the same ****y/funny lines over and over because they can't hear you. You can try to drag them to a quiet place in the club to escalate things but girls who are down to party don't want to be at the quiet spot in the club. They want to be at the wildest, most happening part. The dance floor.

c) When you get her to the dance floor, you don't have to grind right up on her and start humping her leg like a dog. Just relax and let her come to you. When she has her ass to you and her back against your chest, put your face close to hers and let her feel you breath lightly next to her ear. Turn her back around face-to-face...while you're dancing...get closer to her face. Lay one on her.

 

[Desdinova]

A person who is truly 'confident' and 'cool' doesn't have to go out of his way to convince people of that. He can bust on himself and his true confidence radiates through his pores naturally. So be careful with your ****y/funny.

Good point xblitz. It seems what my problem was back in my AFC days is that I always had it inside of me, but I just didn't allow myself to radiate. I bust on myself without even thinking about it now. It makes me become the main character in the comic strip of life.

 

[JT47319]

Carry on a conversation. Lead the conversation to where you want. Escalate and get physically slowly. Qualify her. etc.

 

[SteR]

Originally posted by Desdinova
Who says you need to get serious? You don't need to be romantic to get a kiss. It's all about flow. C/F combined with Kino should get you a kiss.

nono, what I meant was I have no problem getting a number close. But what if you want things to happen right there and then..

 

[zentraveller]

I'm trying to bring more of a rough structure to my club game.
Maybe you guys can tell me if I'm missing anything.

Assuming you lead with C&F and get a spike in interest...

Vibe with the response, following up with more C&F, playful kino, and story telling to demonstrate your superior coolness & humor

[in the past, I would too often engage in boring ass interview-style conversations...which was a mistake]

Be sure to watch body language and keep steady eye contact without leaning in psychologically or seeming needy

Don't be afraid to spin multiple story threads and randomly segway into other high octane topics

Escale to rapport through some touchy feely type shyt (palm reading, female relevant topics, whatever)

[in the past, I would try to jump directly to rapport without doing any ****y & funny or story telling, which made me seem desperate and boring]

Get HB to invest in the conversation and "relationship" by talking about herself...and more importantly...selling herself to you

Punish bad behavior, reward good behavior, and engage in some push / pull

Shift to sexual state and tongue down

Number close or Venue change for F-close

Am I missing anything?

 

[xiola]

^^^ now see, that is just like following directions, takes all the fun out of it. Just go with what you feel. You should be able to tell if she wants a kiss or not. Ask her to a after party or back to your house. If you 2 are really hitting things off, next time you make eye contact for more then 3 seconds, go for it

b

 

[SheepSter]

Ok first of all two views on your mindset:

1) It's great that you want to go for the homerun as soon as possible. Your goal is clear and you are willing to do everything to reach it.

2) The first view comes along with a problem though, and that's you only focussing on the outcome/goal. And by doing so neglecting important steps to take things to another level.

What you should always keep in mind is to have fun. You're free to do whatever you want (within the limitations of the law), and so you should act accordingly. By not limiting yourself to the outcome. My advice: make it a great night out, girls come in the 2nd place.

With that in mind I can elaborate on your situation. I've been there so I know what you're talking about. You said you had a great convo, but then don't knew what to do next. It's quitte simple: be BAD. I hope you're at the level that you know she's giving you IOI's. At this point she WANTS you to do something else than talk my friend. At this point you should take her somewhere else in the club (the launch area) and ISOLATE. This is key, because once she's isolated her defences will be gone. Ever noticed how a HB can be a straight b|tch when she's with her friends, and totally yours once you got her alone. Yes isolate I can't stress that enough. Once isolated be BAD and immediately start kissing her, they love it when you take control. Do some push & pull, look her deep in the eyes a couple off times and vary between short and passionate kissing.

Heavy kino needs to be applied now, smell her and tell she smells nice. Keep the kissing going now. Then suddenly STOP. This move is one I always use and it works like a charme for me. I stop and tell her I think I'm going to another place, then get up and slowly start leaving. **Notice that this does three things:
1)You test her
2)You create a challenge/mystery
3)You show her you can leave any time you want
She will probably yell wait, grab you and pull you back. And then my friend your in, because now you got all the power.
Give her a remark like:"What do I get i return if I stay?"
Now 9 out of 10 she asks: "What do you want?"
You want to lay her, be BAD and tell her to come along with you (don't tell her were you're going anticipation + mystery). Take her home or in the nearby dark alley (since you want it fast right) or tell her you want to see the inside of her bedroom. In short be direct now, she's into you already so just be BAD. The rest is up to you.

**Notice I did not say to be a man but to be BAD. This is because if you want to lay a HB the first night you meet things need to go on a faster pace, being a man alone won't cut it. You have to skip certain parts of the seduction game, or go faster with it. Attraction is important, convo less. Therefore you need to isolate as soon as you can. You know the song "bad intensions"of Dr.Dre listen to it and you know exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[zentraveller]

Good points Sheepster. I made a variation of this mistake with a German blonde in Frankfurt.

I danced with her for a while, grabbed her hand dominantly and led her to a corner of the club...but instead of creating attraction (I erroneously assumed strong attraction just based on the dancing/grinding), I went in for the kiss right away.

She pulled back, talked about having a boyfriend, how she would have done all sorts of things with me if she was single, basically *telling* me to seduce her more...and I blew it.

I made the mistake of trying some of that RJ Speed Seduction crap as well, which didn't go over very well at all and ended up boring her.

Alright, I think I'm going to go sarging tomorrow and work out the kinks on some of this.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Originally posted by SteR
Hey guys, I'm curious as to how I should move from being c/f with a girl (and getting interest) to getting a kiss/getting laid in a club?

Am I reading this correctly?? You want to get laid in a club??? Ster, you lonely bastard, didn't you state you were a virgin a few months ago? You have been watching too many porno videos!!!

You don't want to kiss/lay girls in a club - you want to get them interested for the next encounter and thus you are interested in receiving their digits (I'm talking phone number here and not their fingers )

C&F doesn't automatically lead to the next step. Ask for digits and then move on to the next victim if you do not receive a positive response!

 

[Omega]

Blitz man, stop preaching that crap here. It's getting old.

Anyways, to the original poster, one word for you buddy.

I-s-o-l-a-t-e.

"Let's go sit down"
later on
"Let's get out of here"


Dont say "Can we", and dont say "we're going to".

Let's is abreviated for let us. It's not asking, it's not commanding, it's persuading

 

[SteR]

Re: Re: Going from just C/F to the next step in clubs?

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Am I reading this correctly?? You want to get laid in a club??? Ster, you lonely bastard, didn't you state you were a virgin a few months ago? You have been watching too many porno videos!!!

You don't want to kiss/lay girls in a club - you want to get them interested for the next encounter and thus you are interested in receiving their digits (I'm talking phone number here and not their fingers )

C&F doesn't automatically lead to the next step. Ask for digits and then move on to the next victim if you do not receive a positive response!

nono I think you've taken what I said the wrong way. What I mean is, I've had several times where I've been getting on really well with a girl and I've taken her number rather than actually trying to end with a kiss or maybe even going with her. I think the reason is that I hit a wall so to speak where I'm just not sure how to escalate things any further.

All I was asking was how you guys 'heat things up' so to speak instead of just asking for digits and moving on to someone else.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Why 'heat things up'? After you get her number leave and then you should plan for the next encounter and when you get together present yourself in a manner that she would want you in a romantic way!