"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Going for sophisticated career women

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I met this super sexy British woman last night, what a honey. Confident, sophisticated, cultured. This is such a different reality than talking to your typical mid 20's party girl with little ambition.

Do any of you guys hit on or lay cultured and scholarly women? Maybe professors, entrepreneurs or academic types (early to mid 30's). These women are literally BEGGING to be with a man, and not the typical wussy white collar AFC. Go out and get them guys...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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All women n their 30's are desperate for company!!

The only caution with older confident ambitious independent women, is that they want it their way most of the time and are horrible mates, because they are NOT submissive! They tend to lack humility and treat a man at home as if he is a co-worker!

They make for terrible wives!

If you are a 'player' then you better offfer her something more than what she already has or what she doesn't have! Like your masculinity!!
 

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I second P.R. Lover's comments. Highly educated, professional women are going to be more dominant, less feminin, less fun etc.
 

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i date these types all the time--MBA's, six figures. the strong, successful, independent woman tends to put up a front by day, but they are typical women by night.

since they are stronger, however, this just means that YOU must be stronger then they. that's all. it's a power of will, like any other type of woman.

most definitely, these types of women tend to intimidate men. i think this is the major issue. hmmm...your woman is more successful than you, makes more money than you, is more sophisticated than you, is more ambitous than you, is smarter than you. yeah, guys get intimidated by that. most women are fully aware of this.

my sis is like this. 34, VP at a major commercial bank, six figures. she is well aware that her "status" can scare guys away. she tones it down socially. her problem is that she goes for hispanic dudes. OUCH! hispanic dudes cannot handle all of the stuff in the above paragraph. believe me, she's an expert on this.
 

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It’s not a question of dominance with a successful and sophisticated women, but rather one of equality. Whereas a bimbo’s sh!t tests will be child-like and elementary, a successful and sophisticated woman’s sh!t tests will be more subtle, but much more deadly.

By the time you date her, the average successful and sophisticated woman will feel like she had to work substantially harder and longer than her male colleagues to get where she is, and may bear some degree of malice if you attempt to “compete” with her. By competition I don’t mean in the workplace, but rather competition in the relationship for dominance. In traditional relationships, the man is often the more dominant one, based primarily on his role as the chief provider. In relationships involving successful and sophisticated women, the role of chief provider (and therefore dominant mate) is seemingly up for grabs, at least from the perspective of such women.

If you bring nothing to the table in terms of career or money, a successful and sophisticated woman may look at you as a Neanderthal; someone whose sole purpose in life, at least while you’re in the relationship with her, is to help her achieve her goals. To the extent you can’t help her directly (e.g., look good on her arm at a company affair, family connections, etc…) you will be placed in charge of the mundane domestic tasks she is “too busy” to do. One need only look towards media portrayals of such relationships as examples of how they function. Indeed, career-minded women often take their cues from such media portrayals.

To the extent you want to get involved with a successful and sophisticated woman, you must bring something to the table that gives you the mental strength to stand up for yourself time and time again. For example, if you’re a college professor with a Ph.D., you bring an education to the table – probably more education than she has. Likewise, if you own your own company and clear six figures a year for yourself, you bring money to the table – giving you financial independence. Finally, if you have family connections that could destroy her career based on one phone call – you have ammunition if she steps out of line. The key is not to engage in a war of dominance in such a relationship, but rather keep your dignity and self-respect.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Wouldn't any woman, regardless of her status or achievements, feel the same gut level attract for a dominant man? Her achievements haven't been able to override her biological tendencies, have they? Say, 30-35.

It seems like a successful career woman over 35-40 would have an especially hard time finding the right guy. The reason being:

Younger guys with less education, less income, etc. would be too intimidated by her position to ever ask her out.

Guys her age or older who are very successful, making 6 figures, etc are going to want a much younger gf (early 20s).
 

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Originally posted by JB101
Wouldn't any woman, regardless of her status or achievements, feel the same gut level attract for a dominant man? Her achievements haven't been able to override her biological tendencies, have they? Say, 30-35.

It seems like a successful career woman over 35-40 would have an especially hard time finding the right guy. The reason being:

Younger guys with less education, less income, etc. would be too intimidated by her position to ever ask her out.

Guys her age or older who are very successful, making 6 figures, etc are going to want a much younger gf (early 20s).
true. they also want dvck just as bad as your typical 35ish female--moreso perhaps :)
 

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Originally posted by JB101
Wouldn't any woman, regardless of her status or achievements, feel the same gut level attract for a dominant man? Her achievements haven't been able to override her biological tendencies, have they? Say, 30-35.

It seems like a successful career woman over 35-40 would have an especially hard time finding the right guy. The reason being:

Younger guys with less education, less income, etc. would be too intimidated by her position to ever ask her out.

Guys her age or older who are very successful, making 6 figures, etc are going to want a much younger gf (early 20s).
Or look at it this way. Say the guy and the girl are on equal terms as far as success, money, ect. Maybe the guy might want to relax with a girl who is more laid back. Sure these sophisticated, educated girls should be the ideal for sophisticated educated guy but sometimes opposites attract. Howzabout a girl around whom the guy can loosen up around. Also, a lot of women go after younger guys for that reason (anyone see the movie Tadpole?).
 
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