GodsGiftToFatBirds Bootcamp Diary

[Not Quite There]

Don't know if it was cos i was sober that i noticed it more but there seemed to be so many people just behaving like cvnts, barging their way through, dancing into people etc, and i was getting a bit annoyed. [/B]

hahaha, 2 true, whenever you go out sober you notice everything times 10, done it before and it proves there are definatly soem ****s about!

so nowadays i just join them

I went out last night to a walkabout, in the que some dirty 34 year old was proper coming on to me, she was such a slag and not that fit, but at the same time her dirtyness was kinda a turn on! ahah, inside the place was just full of more dirty girls, didn't bother trying it on though, just sat back and laughed at all the people.

 

[Bonhomme]

Wow, that was a weird club night.

The laudromat pickup looks good. Definitely call that bird if you haven't already.

Don't worry about people hearing when you get a gal's #, just do it. That used to be a problem for me, too.

Anhow, you do seem to be hitting it off with a real lot of 'em, so it's just a matter of time. Keep at it.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Week 4 (again!) Days 3&4

whenever you go out sober you notice everything times 10, done it before and it proves there are definatly soem ****s about!

You do notice everything more when you're sober but having said that, i work in a nightclub back home and very rarely get wound up like that. Don't know what the difference is, there are some right obnoxious people at my uni who think they can do whatever they like when they're drunk. When i'm working back home, if anyones being a cvnt, i can just point them out to the bouncers and they're straight out the door, securities sh!t at my students union, you either have to just walk away or sort it yourself pretty much.
You back at uni by the way NQT and have you had any success with the Don Juan stuff if so? - remember you saying about waiting to get back to uni to try out all the stuff from this site.

The laudromat pickup looks good. Definitely call that bird if you haven't already.
Don't worry about people hearing when you get a gal's #, just do it. That used to be a problem for me, too.

Cheers mate, yeh i texted the girl from the laundrette, she hasn't replied though, which i'm a bit surprised about cos i thought she had pretty high IL in me.
About people overhearing, yeh agreed, i overcame that obstacle today actually, description's below.


Anyway, bootcamp: i didn't get any tallies yesterday. Missed on an opportunity i should have taken, this bird (HB9) was giving out flyers for some uni prom thing, she was trying to sell it to me, was going 'you can get discounted hotel stay too with the price, in case you get lucky!', i was like 'why, you gonna be there are you? Might have to take you up on that unless i get a better offer', she was cracking up at that. I was obviously just having a laugh but exchanged a fair bit of banter and stuff after that too and i should have had a crack at the number.
Anyway today, had the afternoon free so headed into the city centre to go round the shops more with the intention of chatting up birds than shopping. I was properly determined having got no tallies for a couple of days, kept telling myself "whats so fvcking difficult, its 3 simple steps: 1. start talking to a bird, 2. talk to her for a couple minutes, 3. say 'can i take your phone number?'
Hoorah, you've got a bootcamp tally!"
There wasn't that many birds about but i found one (HB8) in this bookshop, she was reading this book, i was like 'What's that book like?', she turned to me with a smile (good sign IMO when they give you a smile when you've just something mundane), and we started a convo from there that went on about 10 minutes. She was Scottish and at uni too, with a really nice personality, i was attracted to her, after talking to her a few minutes, i asked for her number (there were people round, and a couple heads turned when i asked for her number, wasn't bothered like), she said yeh almost before i'd finished the question, seemed pleased that i'd asked. We kept talking for quite a few minutes after that too, she wanted my number as well.
Very pleased with that one, i'll definately be in touch with her. On the subject, has anyone got an opinion on calling vs texting? I've had a mobile for a couple years and since then, i've always used texting to contact girls/ ask girls out. Considering calling this girl though, reckon it shows a lot more balls. I remember the first girl i ever went out with, was just after i'd turned 18, had pretty much no experience with birds, and i didn't have a mobile then. I had her number after i'd met her while i was out, took me fvcking ages staring at the piece of paper to work up the balls to call it. I called her home phone first rather than her mobile too, and even though i was nervous as hell, i reckon she was impressed that i had the balls to pick up the phone and ask her out, and we went out for a month or so in the end.
Texting is way easier, but its occured to me that it stinks a bit of a guy lacking bottle.
Anyway, thats still just 2 in 4 days. I kind of rested on my laurels too much after getting that girl's number, and started looking round the shops more than really looking for birds.
Will try to update again tomorrow, might be heading out though, will update friday night though if i am.

 

[Not Quite There]

alright mate, havent really had any luck,but have been well busy since i've been back, had an exam and coursework to get through. My main probelm is though, i am doing a masters and it really isn't like uni first time around, for a start its a lot harder, and you jsut don't meet as many people, so i don't even go out as much as i would like to. Should be out this weekend though, so will see what happens, plus, i got in touch with some bird i met before x mas, and may be going out 4 a drink with her next week, can't really remember how fit she is though, was 2 pissed both times i met her! but i don't remember anythign bad.

As for the texting vs calling, calling definatly shows more confidence and stands out more, but can also be a lot harder, you can probably get away with being more flirty in a text 2, i normally text to arrange a drink or soemthing, and if that goes well, call from then on.

I would say it depends on the situation, if you met some girl when you where both pissed up in a club, then calling may be a bit out of the blue, but in your above situation with the bookshop, youve already spoke in person for a while and get on, so a call should just continue this on.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Week 4 Day 5

I would say it depends on the situation, if you met some girl when you where both pissed up in a club, then calling may be a bit out of the blue, but in your above situation with the bookshop, youve already spoke in person for a while and get on, so a call should just continue this on.

Yeh thats pretty much what i was thinking. If I've met a bird when i've been out drinking, i like to use a text to kind of test the water, determine her sober IL, if you know what i mean. Whereas with this girl, i don't need to worry about that, think i probably will call her, not till Sunday evening though.

Bootcamp today: had a good day - have racked up a couple more tallies to put me on 4 for 5 days so far.
First one was mid-afternoon, was walking through university, there was some sort of performance going on (theres this thing at my uni this week where foreign students put on performances (dances, singing etc) from their own culture) and a fair few people gathered round watching. I approached this bird (HB7.5-8) who was stood watching, started by asking her something about the performance, talked about that for a while, then moved onto more personal stuff (ie questions about her) and built convo some more from there. She was friendly and receptive to me talking to her, made a laugh a bit, but not really more than that - i got the impression that had i stopped talking to her, she wouldn't have tried to revive the conversation by asking me a question. So it wasn't that much of a surprise when i number closed her at the end that she was like 'oh no sorry i've got a boyfriend'. She was obviously flattered that i'd asked her though - its true what i remember someone saying that girls love being hit on. I wasn't bothered by the rejection anyway - even though she was fairly attractive, i wouldn't have number closed her had i not been doing bootcamp, i just wanted the bootcamp tally.

Second one today was in the evening, i was walking back from the gym when i passed this cute looking Asian bird (again i'd say HB7.5-8). We were walking past the students union as i drew alongside her, so i opened with 'Whats on at the union tonight do you know?' and let convo flow from there. Walked with her for like 2-3 minutes before we were going separate ways, she was very friendly, easy to talk to and seemed to have good IL in me, asking lot of questions about me etc. So before we went off separate ways, i told her my name, she did the same, then i was like 'Can i talk your number by the way?' She laughed a bit, then was like 'hmm can i take yours instead?', so i gave her my number. Then she accidentally called me, obviously leaving her number on my phone. I had to take the piss out of her about this, since she'd not been willing to give me her number! Anyway, after talking to her a bit more, we went our separate ways. Even though she'd not wanted to give me her number, she couldn't stop smiling after i'd asked her. Girls definately DO love to be hit on!
So even though i effectively got rejected twice, i was pleased with the days effort. Especially since i'd done it with 2 classic cold approaches, something i'd been shying away from a bit until recently. Its definately helped me these last couple days to think of week 4 as 3 simple steps, as i mentioned yesterday:
1. Start talking to a girl
2. Talk to girl for couple minutes or so
3. Say 'Can i take your phone number?'
BINGO - one bootcamp tally
Just breaks it down and makes it seem so much easier
Anyway, hopefully more tomorrow. I'm starting to enjoy the challenge now rather than dreading forcing myself to crack onto birds, and i'm feeling confident i can do week 4 this time round.
Will keep everyone updated.

 

[Bonhomme]

Well, all right!

Looks like you're making some real progress there, GGFB! I'd buy you a round if I could.

Two things:

First and foremost, don't bloody wait until Sunday to call the high-interest bird. The vibe can wear off. Call her tomorrow, and see if she's available Sunday (or the next day after Sunday that you are). That waiting 4-5 days to call thing is so old, and any halfway fvckable bird is well wise to it. Call when you're fresh in her mind. Strike while the iron is hot.

Second thing is that I definitely recommend calling over texting. Texting just looks weak to me, and is only good in clubs where it's just too loud to hear someone on the phone. Having some balls never hurts your cause. Especially in contrast to so many of the kind of shy English blokes Julia Stiles was complaining about.

I think the bird who called you by accident has some potential. Don't forget about her right yet.

Keep up the good work. The tallies mean less than the other improvements.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 6 Week 4

Looks like you're making some real progress there, GGFB! I'd buy you a round if I could.

Lol, nice one, cheers mate!
I took your advice on calling the girl from the bookshop tonight rather than Sunday - just called her about 30 minutes ago. I tell you, phoning up a bird you've met once to ask her out is a hell of a tough thing to do. That might sound a bit daft but its only the 2nd time i've ever done it and the 1st for nearly 3 years, i could feel the butterflies in my stomach before i called. I made myself press the call button though and i knew there was no going back then. We talked for a bit about what we were up to over the weekend, i was nervous and though it wouldn't have shown in my tone of voice, it meant i couldn't think of an awful lot to say. So i cut to the chase and asked if she'd fancy meeting up some time next week for a drink or something, she was like 'uhh yeh, erm, i'm not quite sure which nights i'm free next week though, is it ok if i give you a call back, like monday say when i know what i'm doing?' I was like 'yeh thats fine, i'm free tuesday and friday nights if thats any help'
I was pleased with myself for forcing myself to call rather than text, was actually quite a thrill partly cos it was so nerve racking. The convo didn't flow as smoothly as the other day though ( call was just under 2 minutes), i think she was maybe a little tongue tied too as the call was unexpected. Might be an idea next time i call a girl for the first time to note a few conversation pointers down first rather than just grabbing my balls and pressing the call button on my phone.
Anyway, we'll see what comes of it.

I think the bird who called you by accident has some potential. Don't forget about her right yet.

Yeh i agree with this, but i reckon its up to her to contact me, since she didn't want to give me her number. If she does, i'd be interested.

Anyway, bootcamp today, i've racked up another tally and quite a good one too.
I was in the gym this evening waiting for a treadmill (they were all being used) and there was this very attractive (HB8.5-9) girl waiting too. I recognised her cos she does a couple of my modules but i've never spoke to her before (my lectures are like 200 people plus+). In fact, i noticed her yesterday in a lecture. I was bored in this lecture and started scanning the room for birds, trying to decide on my top 5, i had her down as number 2 (even for bootcamp, i wouldn't number close a girl from my classes if i wasn't interested in going out with her). She's hot - pretty short (about 5ft 2-3) but with like a sultry Carribean look (turned out she was half English, half Bahrainian) and a perfectly formed body with lovely pert tits. Anyway, i opened with 'you waiting for a treadmill as well?' then went on to talk about classes (she was like 'yeh i thought you looked familiar'), had a good convo for about 5 minutes before a treadmill was available. I did my 25 minutes on the machine, that was all i was planning to do, but she was still on the machine and i wanted to have a crack before i went home, so i went and did some sit ups nearby waiting for her to finish so i could approach her.
I tell you, she was on that fvcking machine for literaly about an hour. My abs were fvcking killing by the time she came off!!
Anyway she got off the treadmill, and went and started doing stretches at the side, i went up to her, started chatting again, after about 5 minutes, i was like 'so are you finished your session now or you got some more to do?' She was like 'oh i'm gonna do a few weights before i go'. I made a couple jokes about her building her biceps etc, then i was like, 'i'm actually about to shoot off, but i was wondering if i could take your phone number?'
She was like 'yeh sure' with a big smile, i gave her my phone for her to put it in. It felt pretty good being stood near the front of the gym where all the other guys would be able to see me exchanging numbers with the hottest girl in the place.

Anyway, thats the only 1 i got today, so unless anything happens when i go to the library in a minute (which it won't cos it'll be practically empty at this time), i'm on 5 tallies for 6 days.
More tomorrow.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 7 Week 4

Yo
Interesting thing happened after i posted last night. At about half 10 while i was in the library, got a call off Leah (the girl i phoned yesterday as mentioned in last post). She was at some party and wanted to know if i wanted to come too. I said no, as it was a bit late and the party was about 5 miles away, would have meant going a lot out of my way, but we had a better convo than on the first phone call, and i was quite pleased - i hadn't been sure about her IL in me after she said she'd give me a call back Monday but this washed away those doubts for me.

In terms of bootcamp today, i haven't had the best day in that i haven't got any more tallies. I didn't really make enough effort today - e.g i went into the city centre cos i needed to get some new football boots (got a game tomorrow and my old ones have literally fallen apart!), i went and got the boots i wanted, then headed home, i should have made myself stay in town and go for some tallies. Having said that, its tough to maintain motivated for bootcamp day after day - i find that i have to motivate myself and get myself fired up for going and getting the tallies, essentially to keep myself out of my comfort zone, and its tough to keep this up day after day.
Opportunities could be a bit scarce tomorrow but i'll try my best to get back out there - i don't want to fall far behind schedule for completing the week.
In case anyones wondering, i'm not actually doing 10 rejections in 1 week, i'm aiming for 15 number closes in 16 days (the same time Walden took for his week 4).
I'm on 5 in 7 days now, more tomorrow!

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 8 Week 4

Right brief update
Not counting yesterday for bootcamp, was away for football all day, had a long away trek and got back late so no opportunities for bootcamp tallies
Today, failed to get any, didn't really devote enough time to trying to get them though. Just been out, pulled a couple of birds, including the one who i chatted up the other day, who wanted to take my number rather than give me hers, she was texting me all night saying 'Where are you?' etc. Number closed the other one, i was pissed though so it doesn't count for bootcamp.
Oh and also got date set up with this bird on Thursday, she was one that i pulled ages ago, like 6 weeks ago, not had chance to set it up till now though.
Surprisingly, Leah, the Scottish bird who called me to invite me to the party hasn't called me since, even though she said she would to let me know when shes free this week. Gonna wait for her to call me though, reckon shes maybe trying to test me out by waiting for me to call.
Anyway, i'm off to bed, i'm a bit pissed, sorry if this doesnt make that much sense, will post a sober version tomorrow.
Thats 5 in 8 days anyway. Bit behind schedule for the week so gonna make tomorrow a bootcamp mission, as i've got pretty much a free afternoon to devote to it.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 9 Week 4

Yesterdays post doesnt actually look too bad reading through it! I'd had a fair fwe drinks but i wasn't drunk or anything, hell, i've even got most the spelling right!
Anyway, bootcamp today - due to a couple of things cropping up, i didn't have nearly as much time to spend on bootcamp as i'd hoped to. Managed to get 1 number close though, it was while i was collecting my stuff from the laundrette, struck up a convo with a bird in there and got her number. It felt awkward though - i hadn't got an awful lot of rapport with her and she was reasonably attractive, but i reckon she just didn't want to say no when i number closed her. I didn't really like doing it, like i was degrading myself a bit by number closing a bird who'd shown me no real value - I reckon i'd feel the same way if i just went up to birds and went 'excuse me, are you single?' like some guys here like to do.
Anyway, it was a bootcamp tally, which was all i was really looking for, i won't be calling the number.
I had earlier done a better approach on a much more attractive girl (she was actually a part time model) but i didn't have my phone or pen+paper with me at the time so couldn't really number close. I realised this early on and so didn't bother developing the convo up to a number close level but i'm pretty sure i could have done had i had the chance.
But anyway, thats 6 in 9 days now, bit behind schedule but i still reckon i can meet my target.
In terms of the situation with dates etc, i'm meeting this bird on Thursday night, i pulled her ages ago while i was out (from Day 1 Week 3, while out for a mates 21st) but haven't got round to fixing up a date till now.
I haven't called the bird who i got the number off in the gym the other day, she's in one of my lectures tomorrow though so i should see her then.
Leah, the Scottish bird, still hasn't called, which bit gutted about cos was quite keen on her, probably the most out all the options i've got at the moment - am thinking whether i should give her a call instead - this is a rundown of whats happened with her so far, would appreciate any opinions on whether i should call her, or next her if she doesn't call me:
Wed: Chatted her up in bookshop, have real good convo, i number close her, and she wants my number too
Fri: Call her, ask if she fancies meeting up next week (now this week), she says yeh but shes not sure when shes free so she'll call me back Monday (now yesterday) when she knows her plans for the week
Fri night: She phones me at half 10 asking if i want to come to the party shes at. I can't make it but we chat on the phone for a while, before i hang up i say to have a think about next week anyway, shes like 'yeh definately'.
However now Tuesday and she hasn't called me.
I know someone will say to stop overanalyzing things, i'm very attracted to thsi girl though and would appreciate some opinions.
Cheers guys,
laters.

 

[englishman]

call her up, chat for a bit and say, tuesday 8pm lets meet for a pint.... I wouldnt get to fvcked up about when to call, and all that silly s*it like over here mate, everybody just ends up confused....only ones who benefit are the ones who write the fvcking books.....lol.....

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 10 Week 4

Yeh, probably right, reckon you can overanalyze things like when to call when you should just pick up the phone and do it.
As it happens, she wasn't just ignoring me or waiting for me to call first anything like that: I called her this evening, no answer, got a text from her 5 minutes later saying sorry not been in touch, she's been quite ill last few days and been in hospital, only got out today and saying how are you anyway?. So texted to and fro and few times, but obviously not arranging anything till she's completely better.

Anyway, bootcamp today, managed to rack up another tally this evening, was walking out of the library, this bird (HB8) was ahead of me, was planning how to catch up and start a convo with something like 'you had enough of the library as well?', she dropped something she was carrying without realising though so i called after her, then was easy to start talking. Walked with her for about 5 minutes as were going in same direction, had normal friendly conversation about uni and other stuff, i could tell she was into me though, she was very attentive with everything i was saying and showing a lot of interest. When i was heading off a different way, i made sure i number closed her, and she willingly gave over her number.
That's a number i might well call in a few days, she was quite attractive, with that sort of sultry Meditaranean look (she had Spanish/African parents).
So thats 7 in 10 days now, had 2 or 3 other convos with girls i didn't know today, but nothing worthy of a number close.
Got a date tomrrow night, as I mentioned yesterday. So hopefully i won't get the chance to post tomorrow night cos i'll be busy fvcking her, if my post doesn't appear how as normal tomorrow night, you can all assume i've got lucky and send me congratulatory 'Well in mate' type messages!!
So, hopefully, more the day after tomorrow!!

 

[Bonhomme]

You're a busy man!

Wow... things are looking pretty good, regardless of what happened on your date. Since you didn't post, I'm just hoping you got laid, and not killed. (chuckling...)

Looks like you're doing a good job taking care of things. I concur that it's best to call, rather than to overanalyze, especially if a gal makes an offer you don't take her up on. It's going out on a limb for a gal to do that, and only proper to show appreciation. Whatever the case, things look good for this gal -- once she recovers from her illness -- if your date hasn't stolen her thunder.

Anyhow, things are looking good for you, mate... but not so good for all those fat birds.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Days 11 & 12 Week 4

Wow... things are looking pretty good, regardless of what happened on your date. Since you didn't post, I'm just hoping you got laid, and not killed. (chuckling...)

Haha, I didn't get laid actually but the date did go very well. Went out for a few drinks at my students union, was quite nervous waiting for her to turn up - wasn't really sure what she was like or how fit she was, as I'd only met her before for like 15 minutes when i was pissed. When she turned up though, i was like 'fvck shes hot, i've done alright here!' - nice face, long wavy blonde hair, decent body with big tits, i wasn't complaining. Convo went smooth enough but for a while, i got the feeling that i wasn't really getting anywhere, that we weren't connecting especially well, like just having normal convo. It improved as we went along though, helped that we both had a couple of drinks, and after a couple of hours, the convo was quite flirty, we were taking the piss out each other and stuff and she was brushing her leg against mine under the table.
At closing time in the bar, i was like 'do you fancy coming round for a while?', she was like 'yeh sure, i just need to check what time the buses run' (she lives like 5 miles away), when we got back to my room, we were talking for a couple minutes on my bed, then i leaned over to kiss her, started softly but it soon got quite frantic and passionate, with hands everywhere. I slipped my hands up her top and in her bra, was fondling her tits, and slipped a hand down her panties, giving her a couple fingers, she was loving it from the noise she was making, and she was rubbing me up through my jeans. I was well up for taking it further, she was like 'i really really want to, but this is a first date, and i don't do that on a first date, 2nd dates a different matter though'.
So she left after about 40 minutes, it felt great being in bed with her though, and i can't wait for next time. She'll be by far the fittest girl i've ever had though, i seriously wouldn't say i've ever sh@gged better than a 6 before (hence my name!!) and i've always looked at the really hot girls and wondered what it would be like with them. I am far too excited about the prospect, i had a 2 hour class this morning and i can't have taken in a single word the tutor said, all i could think of was sex!!
Anyway, i need to be patient and wait for next time.

Anyhow, things are looking good for you, mate... but not so good for all those fat birds.

Oh i dunno, i might one day go back to my roots, you should always be proud of where you've come from!

In terms of bootcamp though, i've lapsed over the last couple days and got no more tallies, my determination to get them wavers a bit and last couple of days, it hasn't been as high as it needs to be. Planning to head into the city centre tomorrow and hit the shops on a number mission. Need to give my tally a major boost, being on just 7 in 12 days now. I'm gonna keep going this time to hit the 15 tallies, but i certainly don't wanna take ages over it, even if i don't quite make the target i set.
More tomorrow!

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Days 13 & 14 Week 4

Ok, update for the last couple days: few options/possibilities regarding dates etc but, man, i'm struggling on the bootcamp!Haven't got any more tallies last couple days- i know what the problem is: the time pressure's working against me, i'm thinking 'i've gotta get x many tallies today' and putting too much pressure on myself, i'm not relaxed enough about it, especially since this is my 3rd crack at week 4, and i feel that i should be doing it by now.
In terms of my different options with girls, theres some looking good, some not so good.
Haven't arranged a 2nd date yet with the girl i went out with on Thursday, texted her about 3 hours ago, she hasn't replied, hope it wasn't just the drink talking on Thursday night.
Been texting Leah, the Scottish girl, asked if she fancied going out one evening, she was like 'iwould like to but i can't at the moment cos i got so much work on'. So i was like 'ok give us a buzz when you're less busy then'. Thought i'd better put the ball in her court now, see what she does with it, as i'm less sure about her IL now.
Also, this evening, phoned the girl i met coming out the library (post before last), no answer, will give her another call tomorrow evening.
Finally, yesterday evening, sent a 'hey how u doing?' sorta text to the 1st girl i pulled last monday night while i was out, wasn't too hopeful of a response but she texted bac, seemed to have good IL, and we got into one of them texting conversations, and might be seeing her tomorrow night at the same place i pulled her last week.

So I've got 1 or 2 irons in the fire regarding different girls, but bootcamp week 4 is becoming quite long and painful!!!

 

[Bonhomme]

Forgot to mention

If you get really intimate with a gal on a date (certainly if you go downstairs at all), you must call her the next day. Otherwise she might feel used, get a bit pissed off, and if she has a reasonble amount of self-esteem, be turned off.

Well, looks like you had a good time, anyway. Giver her a call if you don't hear from her in a day or 2. Gotta get out of that texting habit, unless it really saves you a lot of phone cost and you explain that to the gals you deal with straight off.

Another tip about what to do in bed: tease! It drives most women wild. I always work my way closer and closer to the hot spots, work around them, and pass over them, eventually making very light, brushing contact, making it look like I'm going there, then pulling back, etc. Then by the time I finally get there (if she doesn't grab my hand and put it there first!) she'll go crazy. My GF this summer complained about my being a horrible tease, but man, did she get off!

Looks like you'll have plenty of practice coming up. Keep up the good work. I do think you're well beyond bootcamp level, though, but gotta hand it to you for persevering.

Got a good laugh out of your "getting back to my roots" comment, too .

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Days 15 & 16 Week 4

If you get really intimate with a gal on a date (certainly if you go downstairs at all), you must call her the next day. Otherwise she might feel used, get a bit pissed off, and if she has a reasonble amount of self-esteem, be turned off.
Well, looks like you had a good time, anyway. Giver her a call if you don't hear from her in a day or 2. Gotta get out of that texting habit, unless it really saves you a lot of phone cost and you explain that to the gals you deal with straight off.

Yeh, i did text her the day after the date actually. I think textings maybe a British more than American thing, certainly with a girl you don't know that well, they'd expect you to text rather than call. But i agree that callings better in a lot of situations, it does make you stand out more. I'm gonna call her tomorrow anyway to set up the next date - I bumped into her today, couldn't talk for long cos her and her mates were about to get on the bus, but i said i'd give her a call.
I like the teasing idea, i've noticed that when girls do that sort of thing to you, it makes you want it that much more. I reckon shes gonna be an awesome shag when i finally get it, i reckon shes pretty experienced as well as being fit - shes got a pierced **** and lets face it, you don't get that done unless you're getting it a fair bit! Just hope it doesnt catch though. Fvck that could be painful!

Before Bonhomme's post went up tonight, i'd actually just spent over half an hour writing a really detailed post about my bootcamp over the last 2 days. Then my b@stard computer seized up and i lost the entire lot. I really can't be arsed to type the whole thing again right now, i'll include the details in tomorrow's post when i've got a bit more patience - just saying that i've got 3 more tallies (all successfull number closes) in the last 2 days, so 10 for 16 days now.
I will put the details in tomorrow, i really havent got the patience right now though!!!

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

oh the word with 4 stars is cl!t by the way, i didnt realise it was a banned word

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

As I've mentioned in a new thread, things with thei girl i went on the date with, and was talking about in yesterdays post, have taken a turn for the worst, with her texting me to say that she can't meet up with me for a bit cos of things being 'complicated' with her ex boyfriend. The details in the other thread though, i posted it seperately cos i wanted more people to read it and get more opinions on it. I'm quite pissed off about it really - i wanna get with someone else now, to get her out my head as much as anything.

Today was pretty much a non starter for bootcamp cos of an all day away trip for football, so i'm just posting the details of the 3approaches mentioned yesterday, as promised.
Two of the approaches were done at this book sale in my students union, just basically normal openers in that kind of situation ('anything worth getting?', 'whats that book like?'), followed by convo about the books leading onto more general convo and a number close after a few minutes. Both girls were about 7.5, nothing stunning but certainly fvckable, not sure if will call the though, as thought i had only moderate IL with both.
The other approach was done on this girl (HB8.5) who was stood studying leaflets about the university's drama club productions. I opened by asking about what she was looking at, and developed a good convo from there, she was really open and friendly. Turned out she was in the drama club herself and she was really enthusiastic about it. Thought it couldn't go wrong if i pretended to be really into it too - so i was like 'i've always thought actings something i'd like to try, but haven't ever really got round to it'. But it was a bit weird, i think she misinterpreted the interest i was showing as interest in the drama club, rather than interest in her, if you know what i'm saying. She was going on about how i should come along sometime, and she asked for my email, and later sent me an email about some preduction that was on. So even when i number closed her at the end, i'm still not convinced she realised it was her, rather than the drama club i was interested in!
Anyway, its a bootcamp tally none the less. Thats 10 in 16 days, the same as Walden made in his week 4. I'm going to carry on to 15 though - it shouldn't take me long the way i've been going recently, and i need some more numbers for week 5 anyway. I feel i've reached the stage now where asking for the number of a girl i've been talking to is no problem, even with other people around. The challenge for me is just having the balls to approach, rather than actually asking for the number. Most of my approaches so far have been in 'easy' situations - using Walden's terminology SWSc (single woman, stationary, with context). But i'm much more hit and miss, usually miss, in more difficult situations - e.g if its a group of women, if the womans on the move, or if theres no context. I reckon cracking some of these more difficult approaches would move me onto the next level now.
Anyway, more tomorrow.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Yo
Didn't post last night, cos went out clubbing and din't have time before i went. Went with these 2 girls from one of my seminar groups, who invited me and this other lad from the class to come with them and their flatmates (mostly girls). Was ok, but i'm kind of not that keen on going clubbing with female friends cos you feel like you can't go on the pulllike you can when you're with male friends. This one girl (one of the ones who invited me) was hitting on me, and her mate was telling me she really liked me, i wasn't gonna pull her though cos she was drunk and i wasn't and i wasn't gonna try take advantage, especially with her being in my classes. She invited me round to hers at the end of the night, i certainly wasn't gonna go that far, especially since i'm not especially attracted to her anyway.
Also of interest from yesterday: i fixed up a date for this Sunday with a girl i pulled a week last Monday while i was out, going out for a drink.
And i also phoned up the girl whos number i got while walking home from the library a week or so ago. Had a decent chat on the phone, and i wasn't nearly as nervous as the last time i called a girl to ask her for a date. She said shes home for a week now and that she is sort of seeing someone at the moment, but would i still like to meet up for coffee when she's back here. I was like 'yeh sure just give us a call when you're back and we'll fix it up'.
In terms of my bootcamp situation, i've effectively completed week 4, as i got the 10 number closes. But i'm not starting week 5 until i've got 15, as i need more numbers in order to do week 5. At the same time, i'm making sure these last number closes are with girls that i am bothered enough about to make me want to call and arrange a date with them, rather than simply number closing cos i have to a certain number in a certain time.
I got my 11th one today in the gym, she was a real stunner, i was well pleased with it. Blonde hair, perfect body, tanned with a pierced belly button, she was wearing a crop top, she was seriously hot, i dunno if saying she was HB9 does her justice. A mate from my football team was also in the gym, he was like 'fvcking hell mate, look at that', i was like 'aye i know'. She was on a break from this machine, so i went up and started chatting, she was really chatty and friendly. I got the impression she was into me when i was talking to her: i'd asked if she came in the gym a lot, i was like 'you look in very good shape', she was like 'thanks, so do you' with a smile, and she offered her name first without me asking. So it was no trouble for me to number close her after a few minutes, thats one number i will most definately be calling in a few days.
But that was my only one today anyway, so thats 11, 4 more to go before i start week 5.
As i said, its taking a little while because i'm now only collecting numbers from girls that i will genuinely want to call.