"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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god why is interaction with chicks so weird?

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is it b/c i don't understand the white people mentality in US (i'm asian).

or what? just kidding, i know there's asians out there getting pvssy, so

no excuse. but back to the point, i just don't have fun anymore with this

women stuff... i look at women and all i see is some who*e that goes

to church and grab lots of d!ck with mouth (i live in texas).

i can't smile anymore either...

i have tried so many sh!t, jumping from mystery method, gunwitch, natural

route, c0cky/funny, direct game, indirect game, etc etc etc......

and along the way i had small successes and lots of embarrassments and

rejections ... now i don't even want to try anymore. i know all my posts have

been pretty depressing lately, but im not depressed writing this. im just

curious! dude im not the perfect guy, but i am above the average in

everything. how come guy like me tries and never gets any success while

the chode over there is having date with a cute chick???

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS SH!T???!!!!

well, im retreating from trying for now... i need to recap what the hell

i'm living for.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You're getting very close to the next level my friend.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "white people mentality"?

And some more info about yourself can help.

And you may also be the "weird pickup guy", alot of that stuff can really make you judgemental and suspicious.
 

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i think that a lot of the theories out there don't talk enough about social proof. not just having a woman on your arm, but having lots of friends, knowing lots of people, etc. you have to be extroverted and not rely so much on cold approaches. meet lots of new people, join clubs, get involved, etc. that makes things SO much easier.
 

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Vice said:
You're getting very close to the next level my friend.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "white people mentality"?

And some more info about yourself can help.

And you may also be the "weird pickup guy", alot of that stuff can really make you judgemental and suspicious.
I hope so. and to elaborate "white mentality"... I come from 3 cultures.

born in asian family, grew up in hispanic culture (mexico, to be exact) and

going to university in texas. a lot of people from different backgrounds will

know what im saying; white people are just DIFFERENT. all my best friends

are hispanic, that alone shows my cultural mentality is not set on the

white mentality. all the girls i had "some" success with, they were all either

asian or hispanic, never a white. of course im not saying i am playa with

everyone else except whites b/c i'm not. even girls from eastern europe,

they are different from girls here. idk, it's hard to explain, but it seems like

the girls here bullsh!t a lot more and play mind-fvcking games thanks to

feminism? but that doesn't matter. if i can't game these hos, im at fault

b/c im not capable. little about me, im 5'7" well built, i go to gym almost

every single day. consider myself pretty good looking fella, know a lot of

people around campus, and cool with almost everyone. now i am just little

cynical b/c im down a little.
 

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moneyisking said:
I hope so. and to elaborate





"white mentality"... I come from 3 cultures.





born in asian family, grew up in hispanic





culture (mexico, to be exact) and





going to university in texas. a lot of





people from different backgrounds will





know what im saying; white people are just





DIFFERENT. all my best friends





are hispanic, that alone shows my cultural mentality is not set






on the





white mentality.







all the girls i had "some" success with, they were all either





asian or hispanic, never a white.






of course im not saying i am playa with





everyone else except whites b/c i'm not. even girls from eastern






europe,





they are different from girls here. idk, it's hard to explain, but it seems







like





the girls here bullsh!t a lot more and play mind-fvcking games thanks to





feminism? but that doesn't matter. if i can't









game these hos, im at fault





b/c im not capable. little about me,






im 5'7" well built, i go to gym almost





every single day. consider myself pretty good looking fella, know a lot of





people around campus,







and cool with almost everyone. now i am just little





cynical b/c im down a little.
Oh I'm sorry. Was that spacing annoying and hard to read? If you want people to read this then make it easy. As far as the chode with the cute chick. You're judging the book by its cover. That "cute chick" is a chode inside too.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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To answer your original question, "why is interaction with chicks so weird?"

Answer: It's not.

Think for a second if you had some kind of magical power and could snap your finger and any girl of your choosing would be yours and so you had absolutely not a care in the world about what they thought, what you said, how they reacted, you just didn't give a sh*t.

If that was the case you probably would just have fun with it, you wouldn't analyze it, you wouldn't worry about it, or be frustrated. The conversation would just be what it was.

Now if only we could rewire our brains to actually put this mentality into real practice.
 

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st_99 said:
To answer your original question, "why is interaction with chicks so weird?"

Answer: It's not.

Think for a second if you had some kind of magical power and could snap your finger and any girl of your choosing would be yours and so you had absolutely not a care in the world about what they thought, what you said, how they reacted, you just didn't give a sh*t.

If that was the case you probably would just have fun with it, you wouldn't analyze it, you wouldn't worry about it, or be frustrated. The conversation would just be what it was.

Now if only we could rewire our brains to actually put this mentality into real practice.
ya thats what everyone needs, but thats the difference b/t player and normal guy. only if one could be able to completely do what you described above...
 

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moneyisking said:

i have tried so many sh!t, jumping from mystery method, gunwitch, natural

route, c0cky/funny, direct game, indirect game, etc etc etc......


well, im retreating from trying for now... i need to recap what the hell

i'm living for
.

First of all, have you even read the DJ bible? The mystery method works amazingly well... for Mystery. The gunwitch method works just as well ... for Gunwitch. See what I'm getting at?

You can't just alternate your mindset and your personality overnight. Personally, I hate the terms "direct game, indirect game"...etc. You can't just focus on one little area, i.e, c&f. You have to have a broad reaching mentality of FUN.

Seriously, I'd love to quote the book of pook here, but if there's one thing that will help you, it's to read it (I don't care if you've already read it, sit down and read it again carefully).

I don't get the whole "I need to recap what the hell I'm living for". Are you living for women? Is your entire life based on just getting pvssy? That's already a chump mindset! Seems to me you read way too much into PUA material, but haven't actually done much on your own self improvement.
 

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Audiophile said:
First of all, have you even read the DJ bible? The mystery method works amazingly well... for Mystery. The gunwitch method works just as well ... for Gunwitch. See what I'm getting at?

You can't just alternate your mindset and your personality overnight. Personally, I hate the terms "direct game, indirect game"...etc. You can't just focus on one little area, i.e, c&f. You have to have a broad reaching mentality of FUN.

Seriously, I'd love to quote the book of pook here, but if there's one thing that will help you, it's to read it (I don't care if you've already read it, sit down and read it again carefully).

I don't get the whole "I need to recap what the hell I'm living for". Are you living for women? Is your entire life based on just getting pvssy? That's already a chump mindset! Seems to me you read way too much into PUA material, but haven't actually done much on your own self improvement.
of course my life does not focus on pvssy, but no matter how hard you try to avoid saying "woman isn't my priority", the problem is, having no one liking you as another human being is devastating bro. that's why i said i need to recap. life is not about girls, so why can i not have i smile on my god dam face, that's what i want to recap about. i read the DJ bible at least 5 times man, and endured long years of mental damage from non-visible improvements. it's like im locked into a sexual stagnancy where i just can't escape; and dude! that feeling of helplessness, hopelessness is the most devastating and detrimental to a Male being overall;

look man, i don't even know what it is with me. when i see my friends who pull girls left and right, i get really curious... and ask "why.. amin just how?" i don't comprehend the depth of difference b/t players and me. they r all confident young men smiling and enjoying life. i just want to delve into their brain, their psyche, their mind, and what makes difference. and self improvement... honestly i put a lot of effort in making me better mentally physically. i see a lot of chodes and think "man, it's like these guys don't grow up and have no ambition or goal in life"
 

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moneyisking,
notice how u call other guys chode, but you think of yourself as a stud but without women?

you have a fatgirl mentality /personality/complex, which is you think of yourself as beautiful when u aren't.

this personality is ugly to people around you, you are un-humble to learn and think you know everything when u don't know ****, time to pop your own balloon and get back to square #1
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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jcap said:
moneyisking,
notice how u call other guys chode, but you think of yourself as a stud but without women?

you have a fatgirl mentality /personality/complex, which is you think of yourself as beautiful when u aren't.

this personality is ugly to people around you, you are un-humble to learn and think you know everything when u don't know ****, time to pop your own balloon and get back to square #1
hey man remember i said im not the greatest guy, and there are considerably many many men out there who are more successful, better looking, more athletic, with better attitude, more positive, more friendly, and just overall a better person than i am. but i don't think i am less than some guy over there b/c he has a girl while i don't; i am more active (5-6 days of intensity training at gym), Nursing school at university with 3.10 GPA, fairly alright looking, hardcore with healthy diet, know a lot of people, and generally considered as chill person. im not the top guy, but i can proudly say i live my life with effort and do my best to be that guy. i always think i can do better, i think that as i speak, so i keep trying to improve; and since im human, i know i fvck up sometimes, but i am on my toes to not live my life in vein, so i fix it.

i admit it, i don't know how to attract girls, but im not equivalent to a fat chick who don't work herself. i work on my life hard, and i want to be better;i want more and more. that's why i want to be good with girls, b/c im not good with girls. its not for social proof or anything. i have a notion that not being able to be an attractive guy is hindering my access to happiness, and i know having a girl doesn't equal happiness, but u can't deny that being an attractive guy can HELP one achieving happiness as long as he works on himself hard and live life with effort.
 

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Listen man, a man isn't made a man by the women he gets. Thats just something to brag about amongst men. Focus on yourself, quit trying to be a PUA and start being a motherfvkin DJ. Read the book of pook, if you already have read it again, personally i don't think you did otherwise you would understand what the problem is. I think these forums are more useful when you quit focusing on problems and start getting focused on solutions.

And i should add, there is no garentee that anything will work, eveything in here is written to increase your chances. Quit looking at women like they're a math problem
 

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da dynamically said:
It is natural to feel weird. You are essentially acting like a rouge male with no tribe wandering around to other tribes and trying to sex their women. The "chode" that you see with the cute girl is actually an alpha male in that tribe. He may not look like the most handsome guy, but he is dominant enough in his social circle to score the hotties.


But for most guys who do not have to time to invest into becoming a master pickup artist, your time is better spent joining a social circle like a yoga club. All you have to do is display Don Juan qualities like being a challenge, being mysterious, taking the lead, focus on the fun, carry yourself with confidence, add in some ****y funny, and that would be good enough.
Merely quoting this for truth. You articulate this well.

Let me elaborate on the whole "chode" thing. Its a normal response to overestimate what we think we can do, and underestimate others. Calling other guys chodes for pulling does not help your cause at all. Its not their fault you don't have the success you want, its yours. Rather than hate on them, learn from them. What are they doing differently than you are?

Working within a good social circle is more important than spinning game randomly. For one thing, you are more natural when you are genuinely enjoying yourself. When you are feeling good, women naturally gravitate to you. Its amazing how mental it is. When you project yourself in a positive way, women find you irresistible. But they can just as easily ignore you if you are desperate or weird. Believe me, I have been both many times.

i am more active (5-6 days of intensity training at gym), Nursing school at university with 3.10 GPA, fairly alright looking, hardcore with healthy diet, know a lot of people, and generally considered as chill person

Oh boy! With great power will come great responsibility. From what my female nurse friends have said, male nurses absolutely clean up. If/when you get good at this, try not to take advantage of too many hotties ! :D
 

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thanks for the advice yal... i don't really know what to say at this point, but nothing is given up.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

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thanks for the advice yal... i don't really know what to say at this point, but nothing is given up.
 

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thanks for the advice yal... i don't really know what to say at this point, but nothing is given up.
 

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thanks for the advice yal... i don't really know what to say at this point, but nothing is given up.
 
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