"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Go to bar to relax--have failed F-close.

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Well, it was supposed to be a casual not at the local watering hole.

I cruised into my neighborhood bar, wanting to get a cold one and relax.

Immediately as I walk in my usual seat is taken. So, I move down the bar and next to this HB7. She looks at me and we get a smile and a hello to eachother.

Next to her is some Eastern European guy (we are in Portland, Oregon) and she is uncomfortable around him. So, my presence is good.

As he leaves he comes up from behind her and puts his arms around her waist. She flips out. It was a bit awkward and way too forward from a stranger. So, her bytch shield is up. I joke about it. I tell her I'd touch her but I don't want to be bitten. She laughs.


We get to talking and I find out how LITTLE this girl has going for her. She has a great smile and nice teeth, with great eyes. Other than that, she doesn't have much to offer.

She has no education and has a son at home. I pay this no mind as I am drinking my beer and chatting her up. She offers to buy me a beer and I accept.

We keep talking and she is really digging me. Everything in my head is a red flag ie. single, uneducated mom, etc. However, I am bored and wanting to practice my "game."

At the tail end of the night she buys a six pack at the bar (yes, they sell those) and asks me if I want to come along. Why not? So, we start walking down to a park at 2 in the morning drinking a six-pack.

Things are OK, but then she starts to get emotional asking me, why I would be interested in someone like her? I tell her that she needs to be quiet or I just might walk away.

We talk some more, and she asks. "Be the man." I was like, what?

So, I make my move on some random street corner, where we proceed to make out for a few minutes. We finally get to the park. We sit, we chat. She says "Thank you," when I kiss her. Thank You!!??

I really have no idea what the hell I am doing. She starts talking about 'do I go to church?' 'I dont want a revolving door of men for my son.' etc.

'You should come to church, I haven't taken a guy there, and other guys try to take me out at the church.' "I feel so open with you."

She starts talking about stupid stuff again. I threaten to walk away (yes, I know....talk<actions) but I can't bring myself to leave a woman in the park alone at 3 in the morning.

We go back to her apartment. She showers and wants me to "cuddle" I try and advance things. But, when I realize that I am not going to get laid, I tell her I gotta go. She tells me to lay with her. I finally get up and leave. On my way out the door she says, "do you have my number?" I tell her I already have it.

I get up, and go home.

So, I really just want a local girl I can practice on. I am hoping to have ANOTHER FB, but I know that this chick has issues.

Do you think it's OK to keep a girl around for sex, just to practice and try new things? I certainly am not going to get attached to a single mom.

Am I being really stupid about all this? I'm sure maybe I am. But, hell, what's wrong with having a drinking buddy that will let me hit it on a Sunday night?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Scought said:
So, I really just want a local girl I can practice on. I am hoping to have ANOTHER FB, but I know that this chick has issues.
The only real practice is ACTUALLY TRYING to pick up a girl you WANT and GET ACTUAL RESULTS both good or bad. The lesson you will learn from an actual rejection or acception to your advances will make you better at this game.

What you are doing is like saying " I am practicing to be good in bed" while jerking off.

Scought said:
Do you think it's OK to keep a girl around for sex, just to practice and try new things? I certainly am not going to get attached to a single mom.
I think its ok to keep a girl for sex but not fvck her if you are not really attracted to her. You are just doing it out of desperation to stick your d1ck anywhere as oppose to nothing.

Scought said:
Am I being really stupid about all this? I'm sure maybe I am. But, hell, what's wrong with having a drinking buddy that will let me hit it on a Sunday night?
Yeah you are being stupid cause you can easily go sarge a woman that is worthy and get her and be happy about it, as oppose to settling for someone you don't think is worthy because you don't have the balls yet to approach someone better.
 

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Wow, it sounded good, til this part:

"because you don't have the balls yet to approach someone better."

Not true.

I am not "settling" as I am seeing multiple women.

Yes, I wasn't trying to "sarge" but ended up getting some small play. But, that doesn't mean I don't approach other women, higher-quality women. It just means I was going to my local bar to just hang out and a girl fell into my lap.

Thanks for the insight. Over-generalizations are inaccurate however.
 
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