"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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go to a bar or gain weight first?

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I'm 33 and a super skinny guy. Since high school my body weight has usually been about 70 kg at 188 cm. In 2016 I bulked up to about 83 kg and I noticed a lot more attention from women. Now though I've had health problems for a year and I lost weight to 66 kg. I don't know if the health problems are going away or not. For about a year I didn't hit on any women due to my health problems but now I'm tired of waiting so I've been hitting on a few women with no success so far.

Hopefully I will gain weight again to over 80 kg. But I'm not sure when or if it's going to happen, hopefully soon though. But even if it's soon it's going to take maybe half a year to go from 66 kg to 80+ kg.

My question is this. Should I go to a bar tonight? Or should I wait until I've gained weight?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pook says something about this that not until he got to 200 did he really get attention. So on and so forth he also liked the attention at 210 but he noticed a big difference at 220lbs. You didn't say much about your height but it must coincide as well. I'd say like at 90kg to 98kg with like 34 jean is good too.
 

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Nothing stops you from going out now and have fun in the same condition you currently are.

However as inferno said above horny men + slvtty women + alchool = good chance you will need whats necessary to handle yourself.

Women clearly have different taste when it comes of men yet a super skinny frame hardly match the taste of most women, plus other men seeing you as weak may take some extra freedom the way they behave with you.

I'm not talking about picking uo random fights for no reason, but they could try to steal your girl near you and while it may work or not work, its still a disturbing thing while you are running your game.

Personally I find already annoying enough to have her friends trying to drag her away, no need for dudes too to complicate my routine.

No one is saying that you cant make it, what changes are the chances and the effort/complications involved.

Eat and hit the gym, dont be afraid to put too much bodyfat while you bulk, slightly chubby on a muscular frame is still better that cut on a super skinny one.
 

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you should still go out enjoy life, watch what your drinking so you dont become known as the skinny joker of the pack
Stay cool calm and collective

initiate chat then leave chat dont hang round as an emotional tampon

im 240lb i was 200lb, i still have torso fat but am now bulked up.............Just like @Who Dares Win said women love it, even though i have no six pack

i very rarely have to show any more than initial interest in a woman and its game on
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The only bar you need to approach is the one at the gym. Start a training program and consume a ton of calories. Don’t half ass it either. Put in some serious work and within 3 months you’re going to notice a difference.
 

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wait for what? start going out now

action precedes everything else
Waiting for my health problems to stop so I can find the motivation to go to the gym and then after that waiting until I weigh 80+ kg. It's hard to motivate yourself to go to the gym when you've had episodes of blindness on one eye 14 times over the course of a year and doctors don't know what it is.

The only bar you need to approach is the one at the gym. Start a training program and consume a ton of calories. Don’t half ass it either. Put in some serious work and within 3 months you’re going to notice a difference.
I don't question that I need to do that, I'm wondering if I should wait with trying nightgame until I'm 80+ kg again.
 

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I'm 33 and a super skinny guy. Since high school my body weight has usually been about 70 kg at 188 cm. In 2016 I bulked up to about 83 kg and I noticed a lot more attention from women. Now though I've had health problems for a year and I lost weight to 66 kg. I don't know if the health problems are going away or not. For about a year I didn't hit on any women due to my health problems but now I'm tired of waiting so I've been hitting on a few women with no success so far.

Hopefully I will gain weight again to over 80 kg. But I'm not sure when or if it's going to happen, hopefully soon though. But even if it's soon it's going to take maybe half a year to go from 66 kg to 80+ kg.

My question is this. Should I go to a bar tonight? Or should I wait until I've gained weight?
depends how you feel.


id need a lot of gym before I strike bars and clubs.

It saves your mind, gives you better attitude, mood, more positive feedbacks.

But thats cause I am rather introverted than extraverted

Thank god I can pull girls from tinder
 

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depends how you feel.


id need a lot of gym before I strike bars and clubs.

It saves your mind, gives you better attitude, mood, more positive feedbacks.

But thats cause I am rather introverted than extraverted

Thank god I can pull girls from tinder
I'm tempted to try tinder but it's probably not very different from badoo and I had very limited success with that. And I didn't go on any dating sites in all 2017, that was my new year's resolution. Made the same resolution this new year's eve, to not go on them all 2018. It seems to help a bit with my confidence.
 

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I mean you can go out now but if you are weighing 66kg with arms like stings of spaghetti AND you dont have much experience with game....

I mean it is what it is man, maybe you get some 4's and 5's and a bit of experience but you could make life a lot easier for yourself.

I mean the other thing is when you are at ypur level you would get noob gains quickly and make some inroads fast.

But from a guy who used to be skinnyfat, let me tell you, for night game muscle helps. A lot. Clubs are full of drunken sluts who just want to get pounded by a hot guy.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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