"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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go in for kiss, she backs away. what to say?

snatchdaddy

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No, no, no... you don't act offeneded or upset. You play it smooth. Myself, I would say something to let her know she's missing out but in a funny way so you don't sound bitter.

One of my favorites is: "Come on baby, I thought all the cold fish were in the ocean." (sly grin)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Kaizen

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Originally posted by Umbra
Not to give you too much sh*t man, but you must have come up with that one yourself. Think about it for a while. When's the last time my steak dinner was like cyanide to you and your hemlock potion was like tropical punch to me? It was a nice attempt at sounding wise, but think a few seconds before posting something that retarded to me again.

Poison is usually poison. And the advice you're giving is harmful, even to yourself. You just don't realize it.
Does it matter if he came up with it? Dont take what he said literally. He's simply saying that it works for him just fine, but to another, it could be devistating. I will have to back up his technique because I've been doing the same thing. Not so much what he says, but the fingers to the chin. I dont hold her face, but I "cup" her jaw bone and caress her neck with my fingers and go in for a kiss a second time.
 

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don't *say* anything.

Just continue with a hug, and make nothing of it.

If you do it right, she'll be able to either kiss you on the lips, give you a "peck on the cheek," or just a hug without it being obvious that anything else was expected.
 

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I have heard of this saying before quite often, so even if he wanted to lay claim to it

one mans meat is another mans poisen.
he can not.

So chill man.

Not to give you too much sh*t man, but you must have come up with that one yourself. Think about it for a while. When's the last time my steak dinner was like cyanide to you and your hemlock potion was like tropical punch to me? It was a nice attempt at sounding wise, but think a few seconds before posting something that retarded to me again.
Anyway, the saying is just stating that its all matter of taste and that people like different things.
 

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Unless she turns and walks away, you're still okay....

however,

If she turns slightly, and blushes or whatever. Make Eye contact, say nothing and SMILE, of course.

:cool:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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this happens to me all the time. The key is not to make a big deal out of it are else things will get very weird. Just laugh it off and forget about it. Still go in for the kiss though at another time. Works for me.....just because you get rejected by a girl one day does'nt mean she will reject you the next.
 
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Nickster said:
I've had it happen, and I've just smiled big and said "you're difficult aren't you." Just don't make it seem like it bothered you - rather imply that she is playing hard to get (which she may be).
Pressing The blue button....
Bump!
 

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Just cuz she won't kiss you does not mean she doesn't like you. I tried 4 times before succeeding on kissing my ex gf. If they keep hanging around you and showing signs of interest...keep trying. Of course do this at least half an hour within the time you tried, you don't wanna appear needy. After your second attempt, wait til u see each other again.
 
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