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Okay I bet that title caught your attention haha!

I've got a problem. I recently fell in love with giving my gf oral. Never really took the opportunity to go down there with my mouth on randoms. But now that I've got a girlfriend I've been able to try it a few times and I'm hooked!

However, the problem is that my girlfriend always makes a fuss about it. I practically have to get on my hands and knees and beg for it which seems foolish considering I know it feels great for her too. I asked her why she never feels comfortable with me giving her oral and she explained it's because of one of her ex's. She claims that he refused to go down on her and it made her very self-conscious about letting anyone do it. It really confuses me because I've explained to her that I love it.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can help her get over this issue so that oral can be a regular occurrence when we fool around?!

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No idea. Use fingers maybe she feels better?

I'd only do oral during foreplay. The amount of juice flowing when she's fully aroused can be sometimes...nauseating. I nearly choked one time.
 

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Assuming she's telling the truth, sound pretty straight forward.

A lot of girls are already uncomfortable with their body (and sometimes with good reason, it CAN smell rather unpleasant if not taken care of). If on top of that a previous guy made her feel undesirable/gross by refusing to go down there, that probably leaves a lasting impression.

She probably does not fully believe that you are actually enjoying it and thinks you are forcing yourself to. I know you've told her but that doesn't mean she truly believes it.

I would just say keep at it, and maybe throw in the occasional "oh you taste so good" or "you look so sexy" while you're down there to help reinforce in her mind that you're enjoying yourself.

Also.. make sure you're actually good at it. If it's blowing her mind I can't see her struggling for very long.
 

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Stop pedestalling. If she doesn't like it, then don't do it. If she's got hangups then stop for a while. Stop serving her and begging her to serve her. Nothing manly about that at all.

Guys who are obsessed with giving a girl oral come off as if they can't please her any other way. Not saying you can't but that's the image. Just do what you do and take it off the table for a while and see what happens.

It's captain save a ho to want to help a girl "get over her issues". Those are HER issues.
 

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as long as she's giving you head, i really don't see the problem here...I REALLY DON'T.
 

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I had this problem. this girl I was with, was a clean, well taken of girl and she said eat it one time during sex and I said I dont do that. then I wanted to do it but she was weird after that about.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Stop pedestalling. If she doesn't like it, then don't do it. If she's got hangups then stop for a while. Stop serving her and begging her to serve her. Nothing manly about that at all.

Guys who are obsessed with giving a girl oral come off as if they can't please her any other way. Not saying you can't but that's the image. Just do what you do and take it off the table for a while and see what happens.

It's captain save a ho to want to help a girl "get over her issues". Those are HER issues.
Im gonna disagree 100% here. With the right girl, I enjoy doing it. Like, I REALLY enjoy doing it, and it has very little to do with giving her pleasure, and a lot more with my own enjoyment. With my ex, for example, I get pissed if I dont get to get NASTY with her now and again. With her, I'm obsessed with going down an her, for ME. One of my favorite acts with her is right before Im about to blow, I flip her over to 69 so I can eat her while I cvm in her mouth. Its all about me, not her.


I'd say, keep at it. Tell her to STFU and relax, and eventually she'll start to like it.
 

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horaholic said:
Im gonna disagree 100% here. With the right girl, I enjoy doing it. Like, I REALLY enjoy doing it, and it has very little to do with giving her pleasure, and a lot more with my own enjoyment. With my ex, for example, I get pissed if I dont get to get NASTY with her now and again. With her, I'm obsessed with going down an her, for ME. One of my favorite acts with her is right before Im about to blow, I flip her over to 69 so I can eat her while I cvm in her mouth. Its all about me, not her.


I'd say, keep at it. Tell her to STFU and relax, and eventually she'll start to like it.
You missed a key point. This...

I practically have to get on my hands and knees and beg for it
That is why he should take it off the table...its become an "ISSUE". Not because its not fun...I like turning on a girl that way as much as the next guy. But I'm sure as hell not going to beg her to let me pleasure her. WTF! That's a personal issue on her end.

What I would do is back off of it. Enjoy everything else. And visit it later after it's a non-issue. I ain't gonna die if I don't munch on some girls ****. You dig?
 

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Good point. I'm guessing the begging part is just a figure of speech, though.

I think theres two ways to go about it:

1. He can back off, like you say, and gently ease her into it on her own time.

or...

2. When he wants he can assertively TELL her to lay down, stfu, relax, and let him do his thing. If he does it enough times, she'll eventually stop resisting, and then like it. Kinda like training a dog. If she gives any grief, say "HEY! STOP! Lay the fvck down, and let me eat your goddamn pvssy!" Chicks DO like dominance from a man. It might even turn her on if he's assertive like that.

She might be like the kid who has to be dragged off to summer camp, but by the end, he doesnt want to leave.

I've heard from guys that have had this problem, that they did just like #2, and the chick complied.

I suggest doing both, not at the same time, obviously. but alternate.

Personally, when it comes to sex in a relationship, (with enough time, of course) I want to do everything I want to do, within reason. There shouldnt be any issues. It should be comfortable on ALL levels. I guess Im just a sexual connoisseur, and I refuse to accept less than my personal standards. Or, maybe I'm just spoiled.
 

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horaholic said:
Im gonna disagree 100% here. With the right girl, I enjoy doing it. Like, I REALLY enjoy doing it, and it has very little to do with giving her pleasure, and a lot more with my own enjoyment. With my ex, for example, I get pissed if I dont get to get NASTY with her now and again. With her, I'm obsessed with going down an her, for ME. One of my favorite acts with her is right before Im about to blow, I flip her over to 69 so I can eat her while I cvm in her mouth. Its all about me, not her.


I'd say, keep at it. Tell her to STFU and relax, and eventually she'll start to like it.
Huh?! you guys actually love and enjoy licking pussy THAT MUCH. Well, guess you learn something new everyday.
 

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Disgusting if you ask me. The pee-pee machine parts are for just that. To go tinkle-tinkle. A real man doesn't need to stoop to that level.
 

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Thanks for the great advice guys!

You should know that when I say "Practically get on my hands and knees" I mean something along the lines of asking a few times and getting a "Baby, not tonight" or I go there without asking and get pulled back up haha.

Disgusting if you ask me. The pee-pee machine parts are for just that. To go tinkle-tinkle. A real man doesn't need to stoop to that level.
A real man doesn't need to stoop to that level... wtf are you talking about?!
 

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Love_Games?!? said:
Thanks for the great advice guys!

You should know that when I say "Practically get on my hands and knees" I mean something along the lines of asking a few times and getting a "Baby, not tonight" or I go there without asking and get pulled back up haha.



A real man doesn't need to stoop to that level... wtf are you talking about?!
I don't give a **** it drives me wild when I'm munching her muff right after she gets out of the shower smelling like strawberries and she starts squirming, groaning, yanking on my hair and pulsing with lovely orgasms. Just exhilarating I tell ya=)
 

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I don't give a **** it drives me wild when I'm munching her muff right after she gets out of the shower smelling like strawberries and she starts squirming, groaning, yanking on my hair and pulsing with lovely orgasms. Just exhilarating I tell ya=)
You couldn't have put it any better brother!
 

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you only do it when she is fresh out of the shower? if a woman takes care of herself and is clean down there will it ever really smell?
 

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Usually id stick 100% to the 'never listen to anything she says' principle with these things.

But it sounds like there could be a slight truth to it.

Remember to be dominant though. And dominance means you have to actually stick to your command even if she puts up resistance.

you 'Stfu im goin down'
her 'No! AHhhh!'
you 'I said stfu'
her 'i love you'
 

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thedude4242 said:
you only do it when she is fresh out of the shower? if a woman takes care of herself and is clean down there will it ever really smell?
You'd be surprised.

And it can be quite a nasty surprise.
 

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you only do it when she is fresh out of the shower? if a woman takes care of herself and is clean down there will it ever really smell?
Usually yes, plus most girls before going out on a date especially when you made it apparent you're a sexual mother****er will be considerate enough to wash themselves real good.

Yeah if she was working all day and/or working out/playing a sport. Can get mighty sweaty and a bit smelly down there.

for those having a hard time getting her to let you eat her out. This last time I had a little trouble. Yet with enough determination you'll get it.

Last time I was over at this chics apartment she just got out of the shower and we get to her bed. She was all trying to do some cuddling **** with me. I was thinking "WTF do I look like a stuff animal to you?"

Boommm just started making out with her passionately, moved hands down stairs 1 block, **** make out again, move in again blocked again ****, make out some more, moved in this time with great persistence. Kissed her from her bosom all the way down to her thighs and ripped them freakin shorts and panties off. Like yeah I'm going to EAT your **** out like I haven't eaten all day. Knowing she just got out of the shower makes the experience a lot more pleasant. :)
 

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i dont see the big deal in why guys think lickin cooter is so bad.....i love munchin rug and the girls will do anything if you do it
 

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Probably because they've had bad experiences, or have never had a super good one. The first chick I ate out tasted really bad. I didnt do it again for three years. Then I realized that the less hair they have the better it is. If a chick is hairy, I wont go there. Some people just to need to eat some quality ******, and they might change their mind. Me, I just get more perverted with age.

Edit: they censor the word BEA.VER. how pathetic is that?
 
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