MisterMcGee
Master Don Juan
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What would you guys say about giving a girl your number rather than asking her for her number?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Maybe because you're an attractive guy she wants to have sex with? If you know how to leave the right impression you can almost always get her to call you. Hey, if you want to waste your time sorting through flaky or unresponsive women then do what you want. But in the meantime I'll be sitting back letting them call me. I have a 100% success rate, and spend zero time dealing with excuses, flakes, scheduling and other bs that comes with setting up dates. Not only that, but in most cases I can skip those formalities altogether and go straight to the awesome stuff, like sex, usually because she wants the same thing, which is why she called mesharkybear said:No! Women won't call you unless she's absolutely perfectly comfortable talking to you. Why would she call you as opposed to her girl friends if she has just met you?
Translation: If I give you my number, there is no chance you can reject me. If you don't phone, I won't feel the put down or the pain, therefore my ego won't be bruised if you don't call.MisterMcGee said:What would you guys say about giving a girl your number rather than asking her for her number?
Then she's already comfortable talking to you. If you cold approach a woman on the street, pull off some cheesy pickup lines, she's mildly interested, and you give out your phone number, she won't call you back. If she's already all over you, then there's no difference. I stand corrected.dbot said:Maybe because you're an attractive guy she wants to have sex with?\
Nor would she be likely to give you her real number, let alone follow through with a date. "Mildly interested" usually equals "forgotten" after a couple days pass.sharkybear said:If you cold approach a woman on the street, pull off some cheesy pickup lines, she's mildly interested, and you give out your phone number, she won't call you back.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Not really.DonJuan11 said:Translation: If I give you my number, there is no chance you can reject me. If you don't phone, I won't feel the put down or the pain, therefore my ego won't be bruised if you don't call.
we do have the details to be constructive and if you don't want people to comment on your stuff then don't be posting it! :nono:MisterMcGee said:Long post, I know. Most of it's useless in the sense that I don't want you guys to comment on it because you don't have the details required to be constructive (no offense meant) and I have no intention of going into a help session with my situation.
I've handed girls business cards and had them texting me within an hour.MisterMcGee said:What would you guys say about giving a girl your number rather than asking her for her number?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I haven't been 'going through' anything for four months. Like I said, don't assume anything because that's not the direction I want to go in this thread. When someone tells you not to comment on their personal state and situation (due to them not giving you enough details for you to tell them something they don't already know), then don't.f283000 said:we do have the details to be constructive and if you don't want people to comment on your stuff then don't be posting it! :nono:
You still reek of afcness for the plain fact that this has been going on for months and you overanalyze this like if it was an engineering problem. Women are not that difficult to figure out. You need to stop being such a wimp and ask her for her number again IN PERSON! not thru aim don't be a wimp. Show some confidence in yourself brother and ask her for the number. If she refuses you (again) you know it is time to move on.
You need to stop deluding yourself just because somehow she is friendlier to you at work after 4 or whatever months you have been going thru this (which is a pathetic time to wait to make a move/move on). If you keep waiting for the right moment and overanalyzing next thing you know she will put in her 2 week notice and you won't see her again, or you never know you might ask her for her # and she will say she has a boyfriend. So all your senseless over analyzing and patience over all these months will make you feel like _____. Stop being such an afc and make your move now!
DJ Bible. Read the Anti-Dump's machine.MisterMcGee said:What would you guys say about giving a girl your number rather than asking her for her number?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.