"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well first off a little about me : I normally don't sleep with women until I actually know them as a person. Mostly due to religious moral reasons (hope you can respect that) and a slight fear of STDs lol.

That being said, I took this girl out who is 25 years old. A lot of my friends told me she doesn't sleep with guys etc. Few of my friends have tried to date her back in the past to no success. Her father is a pastor and she seems to be very religous and from almost all my guy friends who have tried to date her..she doesn't put out..maybe in a LTR..she is a HB8 to 9.

I grab her number (from twitter) and we go have coffee and get to know each other. Then one night she texts me and invites me over to her place to watch netflix in bed with her. I didn't sleep with her (didn't want to) but we did make out and some other stuff. Obv I know I could have ****ed her but truly it just ruins my interest after that.

We go out again and she comes to my place and we end up making out again as she was leaving (had to be at work at 5am)..then she starting flaking on the texts. I sent a text basically asking her to hang out again without a response. Text her a week later and she responded well then flaked on a question I asked after that. She still favorites my tweets on twitter. I feel like my text game is pretty good..wasn't doing any beta stuff imo.

Haven't talked to her in a week or so and I posted some pictures on twitter that gave the heavy impression I was out on the 4th with a very hot blonde. I wake up today and find she has friend requested me on Facebook. My question is she just trying to get info on me(creep me) or is she still interested now she knows I have other (just as hot) options lol.

Again I'm not looking for a hook-up..potentially for a girlfriend/ltr

If I add her, should i send her a text in a few days?

I have not added her on facebook yet.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Condoms have been used for centuries OP. Moral issues aside, most modern women see a guy they like and think: "I want to fvck him"; not "I want to him to hold me like a flower for eternity".
Her inviting you over was a cue to fvck her brains out.
Once again, don't forgo you morals but just know that the situation you're in now is far more likely to happen if you hold out on most modern women.
I'd "forget" to add her on Facebook for a while to gauge her interest level.
Chicks I've done it to who were interested in me, went crazy and badgered me until I accepted their friend request.
But I'd only do it after I'd piqued their interest to the point of fvcking me first.
If this girl reaches out to you asking why you haven't accepted her request, just shrug it off and tell her you'll get around to it when you have time. Then hit her up for a meeting and see what happens.
Good luck.
 

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Dear Rival,
Well you had a good chance,you blew it...Morals?...The Bible is full of Adulterous relationships and worse...Ruth has a chapter to herself,had no problems sleeping with the factor though...I believe fervently in the Power of Religion,but it doesn't alter my attitude to Svexual Mores!
 

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Rival said:
Well first off a little about me : I normally don't sleep with women until I actually know them as a person. Mostly due to religious moral reasons (hope you can respect that) and a slight fear of STDs lol.
All fine and dandy. However, I used to use this rationalization too. If it's 100% true, then I respect that. But judging by your actions below, my opinion is that you're an AFC and hiding behind morals/religion/STDs. JMHO.

Rival said:
That being said, I took this girl out who is 25 years old. A lot of my friends told me she doesn't sleep with guys etc. Few of my friends have tried to date her back in the past to no success. Her father is a pastor and she seems to be very religous and from almost all my guy friends who have tried to date her..she doesn't put out..maybe in a LTR..she is a HB8 to 9.

I grab her number (from twitter) and we go have coffee and get to know each other. Then one night she texts me and invites me over to her place to watch netflix in bed with her. I didn't sleep with her (didn't want to) but we did make out and some other stuff. Obv I know I could have ****ed her but truly it just ruins my interest after that.
Your guy friends are probably AFCs too. You see how her reputation in the first paragraph doesn't jive with the second? She gave you a perfect in! You blew it, pal. My evidence:

Rival said:
We go out again and she comes to my place and we end up making out again as she was leaving (had to be at work at 5am)..then she starting flaking on the texts. I sent a text basically asking her to hang out again without a response. Text her a week later and she responded well then flaked on a question I asked after that. She still favorites my tweets on twitter. I feel like my text game is pretty good..wasn't doing any beta stuff imo.

Haven't talked to her in a week or so and I posted some pictures on twitter that gave the heavy impression I was out on the 4th with a very hot blonde. I wake up today and find she has friend requested me on Facebook. My question is she just trying to get info on me(creep me) or is she still interested now she knows I have other (just as hot) options lol.

Again I'm not looking for a hook-up..potentially for a girlfriend/ltr

If I add her, should i send her a text in a few days?

I have not added her on facebook yet.
Interest rate plummeting. May as well go no contact for awhile, revisit in a month.

Lesson to be learned - if you go looking for an LTR, you won't find one. Again, I think you are sort of fearful of women. It's all good though, I used to be that way too, and I used the same rationalizations you are using. Work on upping your confidence.
 

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Speed covered it.

Not much to add, but if she is in fact an 8-9/10 don't expect her to want a nice gentlemen to court her. If she likes you, its time to have sex as soon as the opportunity arises.

Its tough, but start "objectifying" women like this and you'll get over your anxiety. It worked for me anyway.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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G_Govan said:
Its tough, but start "objectifying" women like this and you'll get over your anxiety. It worked for me anyway.
This is a very true statement that should be noted. Doing this helps get over 'first time' fear and even performance anxiety ie limp d*ck. Do not run away from your urges as a man. Relax and enjoy the fun of it. Obviously I don't condone being a sociopath and using women as a straight up c*m dumpster like a porno, but some of that is necessary. Basically the exact OPPOSITE of what the feminized matrix teaches.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Just remember that sticking your head in the sand about how this girl wanted to fvck on the second "date" wont make her ltr potential. She is what she is.
Soooo NAWALT?
 

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thanks everyone for the replies. Yeah I did post another thread. I'm new here and thought different people looked at different threads. This is the mature one so I figured more mature men looked at this one.

I know I did mess up bad with her. I realize that I had a door in. It sucks honestly and I appreciate your guys honest opinions on it. I did end up adding her on facebook and just going to give her a text in a day or two and see what happens.

Thanks again
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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speed i like what you said man and I gotta ask because I've got mixed advice..since she added me on FB..should I really wait a month before I text/contact her again?

Some have told me that where she has a ton of options..that would be too late as her interest would be gone by this point
 

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Rival said:
speed i like what you said man and I gotta ask because I've got mixed advice..since she added me on FB..should I really wait a month before I text/contact her again?

Some have told me that where she has a ton of options..that would be too late as her interest would be gone by this point
Do what you want, pal. From what you posted, it doesn't seem she's interested anymore. The only way to get that back is by doing the opposite of what's going on in your head right now. Mixed advice? From who? The lollypop high school kids in the DJ Discussion forum? By all means....

Wait a month, work on yourself, game other women. Read the DJ Bible, see the error of your ways.
 

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Rival said:
speed i like what you said man and I gotta ask because I've got mixed advice..since she added me on FB..should I really wait a month before I text/contact her again?

Some have told me that where she has a ton of options..that would be too late as her interest would be gone by this point
Think of gaming women as a "practice" like law or medicine.

There are a huge magnitude of variables, things that everyone will agree on, and things that varying people will have varying opinions and factual knowledge on based on the totality of their own experiences.

In the end, only you can decide what is right for you to do. Your option that should alway carry the most weight over all others is going to be your own gut.
 
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