"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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lol - as if you will :)

But anyway I was out tonight and got talking to a guy and a girl (HB9, 18yo - she seemed older)

Well they where both cool and I learned that the girl had a boyfriend but the guy wasn't him, he was the guy the bf trusted to look after her but secretly was the AFC who really fancied her (he told me - I had a chuckle).

Anyway when he was away to the toilet, the girl and I got talking and when he got back we where hugging (innocently), he didn't overreact or anything but straight away he did point out a girl and said I should go for her (i had a chuckle because it was obvious that he felt a bit in competion and wanted me chasing something else).

The question is. Would you have gone for her?

Me personally, I thought it wasn't worth the hassle however I'm a pretty decent guy (when it comes to morality) and I'm wondering if that's my problem. Maybe i just don't have the killer instinct.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yes I would have gone for her.

If you eliminate every woman that SAYS they have somebody then you will spend a lot of time alone.

I always assume every woman is always looking for the next best man: ME!

Overanalyzing “complicated” scenarios, “morality” issues, and what others would do leads to paralysis.

Again, you are eliminating women based on assumptions you have about their situation. Truth is, you don’t know sh*t about them nor they you before you make a move. 80% of the info you have is usually horsesh*t.

Only one way to find out. Make a move.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The age and the love triangle thing was sort of the reason why I asked!

I wasn't hanging out with them, I was in a club where most people are around 30, they just happened to be in there. Also he was 24.

But that said, if there wasn't going to be the drama, then the age wouldn't have held me back. As long as she's over 18, I don't care. But it's good to know I wasn't being an AFC and wimping out, and then just trying to justify it later on.
 

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I have rethought my previous statement on this issue and I was wrong. You shouldn't be thinking at all about WHAT they are saying but moreso HOW they are acting around you. Never trust what a girl is saying - her body language/actions will reveal far more about her character.

That having been said, if you feel you have the balls to put the moves on the b1tch, go for it.
 

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d9930380 said:
..I wasn't hanging out with them, I was in a club where most people are around 30, they just happened to be in there. Also he was 24....
Curious on how she got into the club if she was only 18.
 

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It's the UK, we can drink at 18. However girls who look older like her can get in from 15 to 16 on.

Besides - If you're hot, normal rules don't apply.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mind_Body_Soul - The fact that I brought it up probably indicates to me that I should have attempted something.

Oh well, I'm sure it won't be the last time I do something AFC.
 

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Oh well, I'm sure it won't be the last time I do something AFC.
Yea - there will always be times. It's easy for the people on here to play armchair quarterback. Sh1t, hindsight is 20-20, but when you're in the set, it's completely different.
 

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Mind_Body_Soul said:
Yea - there will always be times. It's easy for the people on here to play armchair quarterback. Sh1t, hindsight is 20-20, but when you're in the set, it's completely different.
It is very easy to play arm-chair quarterback on these situations. We all miss opportunities all the time. The beauty of it though, is there are so many opportunities, usually when you’re not expecting it. Don’t sweat any individual one; just know it is inevitable others will pop up. The fun thing is knowing it’s almost impossible to go anywhere or do anything out in which you won’t have an opening. They’re everywhere.
 

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Hitman10000 said:
What's a 30 yo hanging out with an 18 year olds?
See, the problem with being 31, single, no kids, no diseases, no debt, etc. (and living like a rockstar, armed with DJ skills) Is that all of your "peers" fvcked up and got married, had kids, and have ridiculous "obligations" so they never want to (can get away with) go out, chill, or do anything besides sit and be miserable at home. So, you are left only 18-26 year olds to party with.

It's actually win-win because I enjoy partying, and those are the ages of chicks I prefer banging anyway.:)
 

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See, the problem with being 31, single, no kids, no diseases, no debt, etc. (and living like a rockstar, armed with DJ skills) Is that all of your "peers" fvcked up and got married, had kids, and have ridiculous "obligations" so they never want to (can get away with) go out, chill, or do anything besides sit and be miserable at home. So, you are left only 18-26 year olds to party with.

It's actually win-win because I enjoy partying, and those are the ages of chicks I prefer banging anyway.:)
I'm with you on the limited pool of people to party with once you get into your 30's but I can't help but get annoyed my the mindless chatter that these young teenie-boppers do here in the states. It's hard enough for me to sit through a conversation with a 25 year old grad student when she prattles on about Lost or American Idol so I can't imagine what I'd see in an 18 year old.

But still, I agree that it's a rare find to come across a woman who's in her 30's who isn't bound by the societal norms which dictates the actions of so many people. You'd think that they'd be even more interested in being active since they should have more means available to them than the teenie-boppers. I guess it's not the case if you let old age catch up with 'ya....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The 20-25 year olds I hang out with, since I hang out with cool ones, are just as mature as the 30 year olds I know.

Age is such an overrated statistic.

Besides... most 30 year olds are already boring. I LIKE to go out, have a few drinks, shake it a bit.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I'm with you on the limited pool of people to party with once you get into your 30's but I can't help but get annoyed my the mindless chatter that these young teenie-boppers do here in the states. It's hard enough for me to sit through a conversation with a 25 year old grad student when she prattles on about Lost or American Idol so I can't imagine what I'd see in an 18 year old. .
As I started reading this, I was like :rolleyes: "I can't stand to listen to women MY age talk about what happened on Lost or who her friend drama is or the latest bullsh!t book they're reading."

Then I kept reading and actually lol'd.

Sometimes I want to go on and on with some jibberish that I KNOW a woman doesn't want to hear about just to retalliate:

"Yeah, so I just got back from trapping this weekend I went with my uncle when he ran out his cable restraints for coyote I made four foot-hold sets Oh you should have seen 'em Diabolical I used "3's because I'm using my #1.65's back around home locally so we put his tags on my traps too because he said he'll check them for me until the season closes next weekend Number threes are too big for fox, and that's what I'm hoping for around here, but they're ok for coyote I got them originally for beever drowning sets in slides and castor mound sets Oh and speaking of beever I was chopping through 8" of ice with my ax for hours in -10 cold I got 6 brand new #330 coni's, got them rusted and dyed, and was itching to snap some beever So I have 6 #330's out waiting for some hungry beever to go for a little snack and SNAP - I'll chop them out next weekend when I go I'm pretty excited because I like beever. I like beever, get it? Aren't you listening? :mad:"
 

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Vulpine said:
"Yeah, so I just got back from trapping this weekend I went with my uncle when he ran out his cable restraints for coyote I made four foot-hold sets Oh you should have seen 'em Diabolical I used "3's because I'm using my #1.65's back around home locally so we put his tags on my traps too because he said he'll check them for me until the season closes next weekend Number threes are too big for fox, and that's what I'm hoping for around here, but they're ok for coyote I got them originally for beever drowning sets in slides and castor mound sets Oh and speaking of beever I was chopping through 8" of ice with my ax for hours in -10 cold I got 6 brand new #330 coni's, got them rusted and dyed, and was itching to snap some beever So I have 6 #330's out waiting for some hungry beever to go for a little snack and SNAP - I'll chop them out next weekend when I go I'm pretty excited because I like beever. I like beever, get it? Aren't you listening? :mad:"
Hm. I think I'd rather talk about "Lost". Does that say something about me? ;)
 

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Vulpine said:
Sometimes I want to go on and on with some jibberish that I KNOW a woman doesn't want to hear about just to retalliate:
I think you missed that.

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Hm. I think I'd rather talk about "Lost". Does that say something about me? ;)
It says you are a woman or a PETA freak that watches too much TV. :down:

Yeah, that's right, I said it. What!? :box:

I'm j/k, folks from the city just have no interest in, or can't relate to, certain outdoor/wilderness recreations because the lifestyle is so radically different.
 

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thickandcreamy - I do use my own moral compass, I just wanted other oppions. Also most attractive girls have boyfriends, dating is about spinning plates, for us and them. Just because she is seeing some guy doesn't mean she's serious or going to get married - she's still looking for a better guy if he comes along. In my oppion, anyone is fair game unless there is a ring on their finger. I do draw the line there - more because it says more about the girl than anything else.

My main problem was the fact that there was a "protector" there, that's what put me off and truth is I could have made a move but I actually liked the guy so didn't want to be a **** to him.

As for age and having stuff in common, I generally find younger people more fun although just as interesting. It's during the university years or eaarlier that people get into music, history, art, politics etc - at that age people have so much more thirst for life. The older you get, alot of people loose that because the monotany of "normal" working life becomes more important and as a result they become more boring. But then again, I think I'm young for my age, I haven't got that need to settle down - yet.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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