give me a better way of doing this.

[big weezy]

ok, same situation time and time again, about time i did something about it.

i try to make arrangements with a girl by phone, she doesn't pick up but responds to me by text so i have to make meet up arrangements this way.

anyway, this is the last time i'm going to contact this girl cos she's proven herself to be just an Attention Wh0re so this is her last strike.

I text her: you in town this weekend?

(3 hours later)

her: hiiii how r you? yes im in town. what are you up to tonight?

(1 hour later)

me: i got early dinner plans but nothing after, was just gona chill and watch a dvd. let's get together later on this evening.

no response yet.

I know my texts aren't right but I don't know how to respond better, can anyone give me some tips on what i should say instead of the response above?

I ALWAYS seem to assume that if she's asking me what i'm doing tonight (i dont just mean her but girls in general) it means she wants to meet and is free, but that rarely seems to be the case and it appears that she's just wanting to see if i will try to make plans with her, giving my attention, cos she's an AW.

 

[blueline]

your txts are fine

delete her #

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

I ALWAYS seem to assume that if she's asking me what i'm doing tonight (i dont just mean her but girls in general) it means she wants to meet and is free

Don't ever assume anything. Assumptions will get you into a lot of trouble and pump misery into every aspect of your life, and when it comes to women, it should be the golden rule.

Don't make assumptions!

Especially about what you think she's thinking. follow your gut. If she were truly interested, she'd be all over the movie/hangout invite. Women don't string along men they are interested in... they string along the ones they don't care about to inflate their egos.... They all want to know they're desired

When she asks what you're up too, she's probably just being polite.

Just sayin'

 

[big weezy]

Don't ever assume anything. Assumptions will get you into a lot of trouble and pump misery into every aspect of your life, and when it comes to women, it should be the golden rule.

Don't make assumptions!

Especially about what you think she's thinking. follow your gut. If she were truly interested, she'd be all over the movie/hangout invite. Women don't string along men they are interested in... they string along the ones they don't care about to inflate their egos.... They all want to know they're desired

When she asks what you're up too, she's probably just being polite.

Just sayin'

we made arrangements to possibly meet up a few weeks ago and i fell for the bait and put a time constraint saying let me know by tomorrow otherwise i'll have other plans.

she never let me know the next day and had the audacity on the day of the meet up to say sorry she didn't let me know yesterday (she was suppose to let me know 2 days before) she asks me if im still free and she'll drop me a text later if i am.

note the wording of what she said, she didn't say she'd meet me that night, she said she'd drop me a text, basically non commital bullsh1t which in her world would just be that, a text (probably to cancel)

i feel like i shoulda created more rapport rather than be direct as i have, how should i have responded instead? that's what i need to know. the IL is too low for me to get a meet up.

i feel a punk offering to meet up or suggesting to meet up. maybe i shouldn't have offered the lets get together later on this evening, and just stuck to the 1st part, if she suggests a meet then i know its on, however all im doing is giving her attention flattering her ego, it woulda been more surprising if i didn't offer to meet.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

Well, for starters, don't ever tell a woman to commit to your plans or else you'll be doing other things. That's just too revealing and sends the wrong message.

If you haven't built enough rapport, it's tough to get her to come hang out.

make sure you're doing some fun stuff and invite her along... it should never be that if she doesn't show, you'll be making other plans. Include her in your plans and go forward with your evening with or without her. That sends a completely different message.

She might miss out on the fun, if she doesn't show, in her mind... if you're a great catch she'll be all over it and will show up. But you gotta deliver, too. Live life for you and women will want to be around you.

 

[blueline]

Forget it, dude. She's already rudely flaked on you once. It's clear you're not working other women, otherwise you would not give a **** about this one. Move on and spend tonight working new women. You have no chance with her.

Realize that there is an urgency to these things when it's actually on.

 

[big weezy]

Well, for starters, don't ever tell a woman to commit to your plans or else you'll be doing other things. That's just too revealing and sends the wrong message.

If you haven't built enough rapport, it's tough to get her to come hang out.

make sure you're doing some fun stuff and invite her along... it should never be that if she doesn't show, you'll be making other plans. Include her in your plans and go forward with your evening with or without her. That sends a completely different message.

She might miss out on the fun, if she doesn't show, in her mind... if you're a great catch she'll be all over it and will show up. But you gotta deliver, too. Live life for you and women will want to be around you.

give me an example of something fun i should be inviting her along to?

in my past experience i usually try to get them 1 on 1 and escalate, usually gets me what i want.

i dont wanna spend any money on these h0's so tryna invite her along to something fun sounds expensive, and obviously i wouldn't be doing whatever it is by myself.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

give me an example of something fun i should be inviting her along to?

in my past experience i usually try to get them 1 on 1 and escalate, usually gets me what i want.

i dont wanna spend any money on these h0's so tryna invite her along to something fun sounds expensive, and obviously i wouldn't be doing whatever it is by myself.

Really? How old are you, anyways? I get the sense you're young.

What makes you happy? What excites you? What gets your gears going? going to the game? Going to a concert? hiking? Kayaking? Bowling? What?

If you don't know what makes you happy, then you're a boring activity-less guy trying to pull the wool over girls' eyes. They want men who are out doing things.

There's a lot of deep inner stuff that you need to sort out, before you start worrying about how to reply to texts and getting them one on one. The quality chicks can read you like a book, and if they don't like what they see, you're screwed. Fix the "You" before you worry about the "them"...

 

[big weezy]

haha.. she replied.. and it's on it seems.

'well ok what time the later the better cos i got to do some homework now till late..'

smells like potential flake.

if i say 'late is good for me too. 10pm at the station, ok?' or should i offer if she wants it later?

but thing is in general i know stuff i like to do but i cant do them by myself so inviting her along and me saying yeah im going by myself regardless shes gona judge me for going on my own?

 

[big weezy]

Really? How old are you, anyways? I get the sense you're young.

What makes you happy? What excites you? What gets your gears going? going to the game? Going to a concert? hiking? Kayaking? Bowling? What?

If you don't know what makes you happy, then you're a boring activity-less guy trying to pull the wool over girls' eyes. They want men who are out doing things.

There's a lot of deep inner stuff that you need to sort out, before you start worrying about how to reply to texts and getting them one on one. The quality chicks can read you like a book, and if they don't like what they see, you're screwed. Fix the "You" before you worry about the "them"...

but the stuff i want to do i dont think i can do by myself, are you suggesting i try to do things which i could go by myself or with someone else?

cos if i invite her to come along and she declines won't she think im a loner cos im doing these things by myself?

 

[john_trenor]

Women need excitement in their life. I know it can be a pain in the ass, but unfortunately we have to overcome this obstacle. Women like to be engaged in a ways that is foreign to men.

Remember that just telling them the truth about your plans wont necessarily get them excited. Try being more engaging; find out what her likes and needs are. This is a lot more engaging and conversation opening than just telling her what you’re into. There’s much more to it, but you’ll get the big picture.

 

[big weezy]

Date report:

well unsurprisingly she semi wanted to cancel cos it was raining outside but i was already down and i told her i'd be driving her to somewhere indoors so we wouldn't get wet.

she wasn't even dressed up! which tells you exactly what level of IL it was.. in that she didn't even make an effort (i've had a meeting like this before where a girl met me after gym) she saw how dressed up i was an apologised for not being dressed up.. i didn't really know what to say.. a neg woulda been good or something like she could make it up to me next time.

my frame isn't right, anyway my date plans got scuppered cos the posh coffee place i wanted to go to was already closed! it was suppose to be open till midnight.. i was p1ssed.. so we went to the bar opposite which was ok but not exactly nice enough where i could make out with her but it did. (i think i lost points cos my original idea fell through)

anyway i was super confident and just tried flowing best as i could, i tried DLV'ing as much as i could about my travel exploits etc but maybe forgot to neg enough.. i did neg a bit but nothing significant and i did kino a bit too which wasn't reciprocated.

I feel at the stage of her IL when we met was so low that it was a big job raising it.. she musta just met me cos she didn't last time and was being polite.. i made a joke about how she dresses when she normally goes out.. she says she really dresses up if the place deserves it. i suggested she can test run the new dress she bought with me next time, and she was like yea ok but where do you normally go?

she's a bit of a spoilt rich girl who lives in her little bubble but without the snobbiness so she isn't too bad but still is accustomed i guess to going expensive places.

i felt the tests left right and centre and i feel i passed them though i did way too much talking to the point i'd get so enthusiastic about something i'd see as i was driving it made her chuckle.

the ending was bad though, i insisted on walking her to her door, i shoulda just let her off on the corner and do some sexy talk in the car and try to kiss close rather than trying it in the rain on the corner outside her home.. she kinda was like 'ok it was nice meeting u and thank u for a good night' and gave me 2 side kisses, i then went on to say 'when you're free we'll something something..' then she said 'ok call me' but it was in a 'just let me go now it's raining kinda tone' i then tried to kiss her but she turned her head and i kissed her hair and her cheek then left her. i think up to that point if i tried to be more seductive in the car rather than a desperate buffoon i woulda scored major points.

i think she had a good time though i do feel a bit friendzoned.

would you say what i've said it probably is a lost cause now?

i wasn't really sure what to do in parts to create more attraction.. i needed to challenge her with statements but i didn't know what.

i reckon it seems she just wants me to take her somewhere expensive so she can wear her outfit rather than actually wanting to spend time with me.

im thinking of leaving it a week to make her wonder if i'll call again like she expects me to, then i'll make contact but to do something locally in her area.