Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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You know this woman better than any of us, and you've basically given her a choice. She can have the coke or she can have you, not both. Let's see what she chooses, that will tell you more than any of us could. Hopefully she will choose you, because we all know the other choice will ruin her life eventually.
Good Luck!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Get this straight - all, I said all women are looking for marriage - at 31 they are desperately looking to get married and looking for a man with money!!!!!!!!! If you are just playing around then no big deal!!! Do what fancies you!!! Otherwise flee!!!!
 

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Let's see what she chooses, that will tell you more than any of us could.
which is all I'm saying.. whatever choice she makes is what she makes but like you said.. she can't.. and won't have both.
There isn't pvssy good enough to throw my life away with someone elses.
 

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I'm just coming across this thread for the 1st time. I'd suggest to go ahead and keep her, but make sure you do some good damage accessment and see what is motivating her to do this stuff. I've never done any drugs in my life other than a toke of weed once in a blue moon, so I can't relate to why people turn to this stuff or what it does for them, but don't waste any time in getting to the heart of the matter. Personally, it would be impossible for me to take a girl seriously who was using hard drugs, or even if she was smoking pot on a regular basis(though rare use wouldn't bother me).

It sounds like you really dig her, so don't let her go easily, but make sure she quits that crap.
 

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but make sure you do some good damage accessment and see what is motivating her to do this stuff.
I'm there dude.. I"m really thinking that because it was free, one of thoose what the hell, fvck it things that people do. but I am still reserved and I'm still giving her the random drug test.

so I can't relate to why people turn to this stuff or what it does for them
For me I can say that it was plump ignorance... I've never been one to knock something I haven't tried, so I tried and i liked. After my oneitis crying and beating me up and me realzing it wasn't "fun" anymore.. I stopped. Same with heavy drnking.. I never in my life have been a drunk... the only reason I don't drink heavily is because it's not appealing throwing up in a toliet at night to go to sleep
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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okay.. let me give you the beneift of the doubt


first of all, i really like her because she's really likable. I consider that to be a silly question. Unlike most guys who clam up with one girl after 2 dates, i've been seeing multiple women the 4 months.. until seeing mutliple women wasn't fun anymore. That's why I consider that silly. I really like her because well.. unlike the otehr women she isn't clingy,s he's in better shape than I am, she's smart, independant, sexy and all the other intangables I look for in a woman

She doesn't do crack.. goes to show how much you know about drugs... CRACK and COKE are not in the same league. Not even the same sport. Yes, you make Crack (freebase) with cocaine, baking soda, a spoon and a lighter... but what you turn COKE into is 10x more potent that coke will ever be. it's not even close.

let me put it this way.. and I will stop at this because i don't like rehashing... AFter 2 days of doing crack, there wasn't a high high enough that regular coke could give me. it's THAT strong.

Again.. like speakeasy said.. I've seen worse than people who sniff every once in a while. it's what coke leads to (herion, crack, meth) that I don't want to be around.. and considering coke is an illegal substance... why put yourself long term in a situtatoin you don't have to be in?

I know enough about the girl to make an educated decision. I know she has a college degree from University of Leeds. I know enough about her background to know she wasn't abused and her parents are good people. I know enough about her to where it would be silly, down right dumb, to let her go over coke residue.. assuming it's a one time thing
 

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OK enough of the 'relationship counseling " already. Some of you alleged DJs lose the plot sometimes. Get off your soapboxes.

Is BB , "In love" or " in lust" or "drawn to" or "infatuated with " ..the semantics crap on page two of this thread missed the mark. It is NOT our place to tell BB whether he should be "in love " or not after 3 months or even 3 years. It is the height of DJ arrogance to tell another man what "emotions" her is ALLOWED to have for a woman. There are NO right or wrong ways for a man to FEEL ,DJ or NOT. . There are only wise or unwise ways to CONDUCT YOUR LIFE.
He can process his own emotional position all by himself, and pompous preaching to him about that issue misses the point of his post . His dilemma is simple - what to do about his discovery that his G/f is occasionally using coke.
He openly acknowledged his own drug past and his abstinence now.. Props!
So the situation now is that she acknowledges her own coke use, BUT claims that it is a only recent introduction to her life and that she has "indulged" only 5 times. She expressed remorse and, on the surface , appears to be fully aware of the damage that continued use could cause to their relationship.
She reports that her supply is one of circumstance -an opportunity which came her way via her roommate. If this is true, then it is unlikely that she is an addict because addicts actively seek out a continuation of supply. THey do not wait until it "comes their way" .Hopefully she is also aware by now of the serious implications of continued use even at a recreational level.
If I were is BB's position ,I would tell her directly that drug use by a G/friend is a dealbreaker . He is smart enough to recognise that a drug user is a liability, and I get the impression that he would find the courage to walk away if she continued to use.

Her choice is simple -fall in love with coke or fall in love with BB.
 

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for the love of god

THANK YOU... I've waited a damn day to get some useful advice.. you and phyzzle...
 
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John-467 said:
...WHY are you in this situation and why do you care so much about this girl?-DJF
At the age of 24, BB has had many hor encounters - this 31 year old specimen has found him at a time were he is looking for more than a penis in a vagina encounter and senses a connection with her that has not been aroused since 3 years ago. It is her "totality" that he seeks from her, as we all do in a woman and; thus, this marred instance is just a flaw to be dealt with as part of her total existence! As long as this flaw doesn't override her traits that he is enamored with, he will then give her a chance to redeem herself!

We all have different parameters by which we judge for a Ltr/Marriage - frankly, I don't take seriously any woman who has fallen from her natural virgin state!!! To each his own!!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Just out of curosity LMS.. does a woman blowing a guy count?
 

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well if you are going to spend time typing, actually READ the post first. that's my only gripe. I don't need AFC, level 1 advice. i'm past that and have been past that for years. hell, I need to be giving YOU advice on that.

how would you feel if everything you asked it got thrown back to you ....

I can be single

I can be dating

I can be fvcking 10 women

I'm going to get the same response... you don't know your true inner self, physco babble from guys I can out game 7 days a week
 

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stop acting like a spoiled brat. this is a mature forum. how would you feel if you were in 8th grade and the teacher kept shoving 1st grade material down your throat.

MY..MYY...MYYYYY question was Why have you fallen for her so fast

and yet he still.... doesn't get it


You are rude, disrespectful, and I quite honestly wish I never posted in this damn thread. I came to the Mature Men section of this God Damn forum because I thought there was some "sense" over here.

You really piss me the fvck off dude.
love that DJ attitute. and i'm not th eonly person that told you that you are WAYY off base..e veryone has.. including LMS...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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backbreaker said:
Just out of curosity LMS.. does a woman blowing a guy count?
She is a bigger hor than the woman who receives the penis into her vagina!!!! Why put "it" in the mouth and not her vagina??? This is a perversion and unnatural!!! The vagina was made for the penis - and not the mouth!!!!
 

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so this is what you call mature? I get a PM from John-467

You in Detroit? Where state you in? I wanna beat the shyt out of you. You pissed me the fvck off.
yeah man.. i beat you are baning broads left and right with that attitutde.. don't take yourself so seriously



I'm waiting
 
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again, from our friend John-467

Bytch shut the fvck up and tell me what state you are in.

Fvck discussions it's over, you seriously wasted my fvcking time and now I'm about to beat the fvck outta you bytch.

What state you in? You in Ohio?
i'm not going to argue with you.. I'm a grown ass man. come to my house or shut up. and thanks for hi jacking my thread bTW
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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