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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

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One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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Hiya.


I met this girl whom I find pretty attractive, smart, funy etc.

Now, we've been on a date three times, and it seems she has tons of friends. And half of them are guys. She may say something like: '...yeah my friend Paul..blah, blah...my friend Steve...my very good friend Ted...'
she does the same when talking about her female friends but...

I asked her: but how many good guy friends do you have?
she replied: good ones? I have four guy friends, and three or four good female friends.


wtf?
I guess she has three times my amount of friends, and I have 0 female friends.


What do you think about a girl with so many guy friends?


Thanks.
 

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Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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I can guarantee you she boned at least a couple of them. but whatever.. doesnt matter.
 

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St_99 is right. Unless they are all mega betas, she has probably banged at least one of them. She may be one of those oblivious girls who says she's "single but dating" (i.e. she's a slvt). Something's bound to happen if she hangs out with those guys for a while.
 

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EVERY time I have seen girls with guy friends one of them has liked the other. Either the guys the orbiter or she is, but one of them is an orbiter for 100% sure. Test them out, see if she asks you to hang with them. If she leaves one out who? why? do they all know each other? Do they hang out solo or in groups? How do they respond to you being affectionate with her. Do they give you space? Or do they get a little fussy? All of these things mean something and if it's not strictly platonic then go ahead and let her know you have girl friends too and just keep spinning plates. If she wants exclusivity then tell her you want it too. One thing to be very careful of is closet haters, be careful how you talk to these guys. YOU ARE NOT CONFIDANTS OR FIRENDS. If one comes to you all chummy HES A SPY!! No seriously be careful...

The only way I would kind of be ok with this is if they always hung out in a little group. That's cool, but any 1 on 1 action is a red flag.
 

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Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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well, this girl is 23 now. She's been with her boyfriend for 4 years, and he dumped her last december.

So I dont think she's had sex with some of her guy friends. It is just that it looks weird for a girl to have so many guy friends, and that she talks so much about them.
Could it be that she just likes the attention?
It seems she has this little group of close friends (around 6, boys and girls) but she also has lots of other friends. I dont know if it is that she likes to call everybody her friend or what.

have you met a girl like this before? do you have any female friend like this one?


Thanks.
 

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YES my ex....basically all of her friend were guys. She had like one or two female friends.. I was ALWAYS suspicious of her and i didnt feel comfortable. She would always talk about them.Whenever she said she was going to hang out with a couple of friends like go to the movies or something it would always be guys. I felt uneasy. But from what i knew and what she told me she was still a virgin and she wasent a slut..But hey i was still feeling jealous and suspicious
 

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Lots of hot girls have mostly guy friends. It's because girls hate them because they are so hot. It's also because they love the attention, but guys who are their friends are not seen as high interest candidates, so worrying about them makes you look bad. Sure she boned a couple of them - and then dumped their ass - so you definitely don't have to care about those ones. 2 of my last 3 girls were like that and it was never a factor.

The alternative is they have lots of girlfriends who they go out with and pick up guys with.
 

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I can gurantee you she is an extreme attention wh0re and a double d!ck suckin b!tch. Do not spend any money on this broad!
 

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does she use the standard female excuse "I get along better with guys then I do with girls"?
 

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Robert28 said:
does she use the standard female excuse "I get along better with guys then I do with girls"?
anytime I hear a girl say that or say "I want to be like one of the guys, treat me like one of the guys" I get a little concerned. ever hear of a STRAIGHT guy having more girl friends then guy friends and say "treat me like one of the girls"? to me it usually means they aren't relationship material at all. they complain about guys theyve dated or tried to date that were too "possesive" or "jealous" and blame everything on the guy when in reality THEY are the problem themselves. should a girl have friends? ofcourse. should they be ALL guys who they hangout with all the time? ummm no. dating these types of girls can be even harder then normal because you'll be constantly getting c0ckblocked by the multitude of guys she is friends with. maybe some guys with enough game can pull it off, but i cant. i have good game but not that good. i also dont want to subject myself to something thats HARDER then it should be. dating itself is hard enough, now you want to throw in a bunch of jealous guy friends in the mix too? uhhh no thanks.

I would hangout with this chick though, most likely your outings will consist of bars since that's where these types of women love to go for whatever reason. that and bar-b-que's in the back yard of one of her guy "friends" playing shuffleboard and drinking imported beer. if you do get dragged off to the club though do NOT hangout at the table with them the whole time. go mingle, go make friends with other girls. hell bring a new made friend over to the table with you and sit down with the rest of that group and watch the guys attention turn from their "friend" to your NEW friend. then watch this girl with all the guy friends squirm like a son of a b!tch because all the attention isn't focused on her anymore.

two thins are going to happen here. 1) she's going to get jealous and I bet you she will NEVER make you hangout with her and her guy friends anymore, it'll just be you and her from then on because she see's she has new competition with the new girl and you broke away from the herd of worshiping her. 2) it's not going to phase her at all but who cares, you met someone new in the other girl and all is right with the world. meanwhile the girl with all the guy friends is either going home to bang one of her friends, and the rest of her friends are going home with their c0cks in their hand. YOU on the other hand are going home with the girl you met, or at least her number and the chance at a date with her in the future. you have to make the best of situations sometimes.
 

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And the worst part is ......this is the type of girl i have the CRAZIEST oneitis for ...i've had this oneitis for OVER A YEAR
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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youngmack said:
And the worst part is ......this is the type of girl i have the CRAZIEST oneitis for ...i've had this oneitis for OVER A YEAR
you have oneitis for her because she isn't yours exclusively. been there, done that. trust me, that's what "one-itis" stems from "wanting what you don't have". i lookback on the girls i had one-itis for over the years and now i laugh at myself about why i was so hungup on them.
 

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I know exactly what type of girl the OP is talking about and from experience she is not to be trusted.
 

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Symptoms of HPD

People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and at work.

Symptoms include:

Acting or looking overly seductive

Being easily influenced by other people

Being overly concerned with their looks

Being overly dramatic and emotional

Being overly sensitive to criticism or disapproval

Believing that relationships are more intimate than they actually are

Blaming failure or disappointment on others

Constantly seeking reassurance or approval

Having a low tolerance for frustration or delayed gratification

Needing to be the center of attention (self-centeredness)

Quickly changing emotions, which may seem shallow to others
NOTE: This also describes the female condition.
 

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Robert28 said:
you have oneitis for her because she isn't yours exclusively. been there, done that. trust me, that's what "one-itis" stems from "wanting what you don't have".
Why try to be exclusive to begin with? That's her job.

One-itis means "Overly focusing on one thing". It's not necessarily a person. You can have one-itis for your business and be a success. Have one-itis for a math algorithm and be a genius. One-itis is training your mind to keep thinking about something subconsciously after you stop thinking about it consciously. That also means dreaming about it. When applied to a person, it creates a strange effect whereby if you see your "one" they will have a magical aura. They may walk across the room and leave you in a trance. That is what causes the greatest heartbreak, realizing you mean nothing to someone who has that effect on you.
 

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pyros said:
She may say something like: '...yeah my friend Paul..blah, blah...my friend Steve...my very good friend Ted...'
she does the same when talking about her female friends but...

Its one thing to have guy friends. You'll just have to assume they had sex with her, want to have sex with her, or are going to have sex with her.

But when she actually MENTIONS them to you is the part that i think is interesting. A girl that i dated, just a fb, used to do this to me and I HATED it because it made me feel like I was getting sloppy seconds from the guy she was with the night before.

Its not always the same with every girl though. an ex of mine also had many guy friends. but it never occurred to me that she would have sex with them because she was more invested in our relationship than i was. In other words, she was pushing for marriage, I wasn't.
 

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