"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girls with lots of guy friends

Pirlo21

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Folks I am interested in this really cute girl, been going on dates, have made out (no sex yet) and everything is going well.

No real emotional attachment or anything yet so its not a big deal.

One thing stuck me last night as a red flag we were at a party and she mentioned typically she has always had lots of guys friends and not as many female friends because she just gets along with them better. I've seen girls like this in the past and they typically crave attention, she doesn't come across as that type to me but its still early to tell.

What's your guys thoughts on this?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Purefilth

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theres many posts regarding these girls and their orbiters, i suggest you look through the search option at the top, you'll find the answers you need.
 

Scars

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Any girl I ever got involved with that told me "I have more guy friends because we get a long better", turned out to be a big bag of skank.

-Scars
 

omega05

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she likes the attention she gets from males without actually letting them smash
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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SgtSplacker

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There are two types of girls that prefer guy friends. Wh0res and Tomboys...
 

foreverAFC

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there is nothing lamer to me than a female who hangs out with a group of wankers who all want to bang her that you have to pretend to be friends with
 

floydb25

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SgtSplacker said:
There are two types of girls that prefer guy friends. Wh0res and Tomboys...
Yes. Big huge yes. Also, most girls with lots of guy friends are usually HATED by other women, because theyre annoying, shallow, selfish, stupid, stuck up, whiney, two-faced, catty, etc. They cant stand them, and usually dont have any real friends in general. They only have guy friends because guys just want to **** them, and will tolerate their garbage. They only delude themselves into believing that men like their personalities and that other women are jealous of them. So, add conceited in that list. They are usually *****es, too. Nobody wants to be friends with a ***** or *****.

Any time someone is against an entire group - you can bet your ass that they are hated by that entire group. But that wont stop them from calling them stupid, playing the victim, blaming them, claiming they get along with this group better, etc. The problem is usually them. Decent, kind, likeable people have good, loyal, trustworthy friends of the same gender. Losers, on the other hand...

But women consider everybody their "friend" - as theyre dating, ****ing, and playing all of them. They probably tell their other "friends" that you are also just friends. The same lines are being used on everybody. Or, they are using these guys, which is a red flag in itself. Most of them jump from guy to guy because they can & dont care. Watch out for selfishness and entitlement.

Definitely a red flag. Be cautious. Youre only seeing what she wants you to see. All will come to light in time. Dont assume you are a special cookie, and watch closely for BS.

For the record, all women with only guy friends use the same line as you provided. Never met one that was worth a damn, and they were single for good reason.
 
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I won't tolerate it. I don't mind a girl having a few guy friends, but when they come out with 'I get on better with men than women' that I see a great, big red flag and I run for the hills.
 

Zerro

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foreverAFC said:
there is nothing lamer to me than a female who hangs out with a group of wankers who all want to bang her that you have to pretend to be friends with
This. These guys will always hate you, no matter how nice they pretend to be, and work behind the scenes to get her to break up with you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Look up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane!

It's Super Attentionwh0re!

These women have men as mainly orbiters. They hope to land in her craters but doesn't allow it. You're gonna be added to this list if you don't run for the hills.

Case closed.
 

RedZone

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Who cares. If your more interesting than the rest of them...you win
 

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As long as you don't get emotionally attached and your game is tight, then these are the BEST type of women to go after if your goal is simply to smash from time to time.

If your plan was to continue to date her in hopes of potentially turning it into a LTR, then your barking up the wrong tree.





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cablecow15

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Im in the same boat , Ive nailed this girl , and am trying to get it a few more times , because from what ive heard of her every day she appeals to me less and less ,

she even told me about two guy friends fighting over her on her bday , I know shes never gonna be worthy of a relationship , but i wanna nail her a few more times , she said i was great , but i want to engrave my image into her brain anytime someone mentions good sex ...
 

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If a girl prefers guy friends what it really demonstrates is some degree of social ineptitude. Males are very accommodating to females for obvious reasons it's almost like having a servant in some cases, you can hardly consider that a friendship. Among females you don't have any sexual edge to take advantage of, it's not so easy when everyone is not catering to you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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