"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Girls with group of friends...what do you do?

KneghtRyder

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WHen I am interested in a girl and she is with her friends or a group ....
this is a college;
E.g. walking down the hallaway and like 5 or 6 friends with her
( I would have to stop her in the hallway)

e.g. sitting at a dining table and 1 to 6 friends at the table in a conversation..



It just feels like there are a lot of chances when a girl is with a group because you keep having to wait until she's alone and single , a potential 10 is gone.

DO you recommend that you should actually keep waitin for 1 on 1 opportunities...

How would you do it ?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Do it when she is at a table, make eye contact keep it till she breaks off, when she does go up to the table and say confidently "Can talk to you or a minute" if you can grab her hand gently and walk her to a table away from her friends but still within the area that they are, shell feel more comfortable this way, and then talk to her.
 

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Have you ever read the Mystery Method?

Normally I don't condone Seduction material like that, because most of it is useless crap designed to help you "trick" women into liking you instead of teaching you to get your inner game fixed FIRST.

HOWEVER...

The Mystery Method DOES have some solid points, and one of them is how to approach a girl who is in a group.

What he suggests is that you don't sit around and wait for her to "get alone". No, no way. He says that you APPROACH THE ENTIRE GROUP, and neutralize her friends FIRST, while "negging" her (i.e. display higher value to the GROUP, neg her). If you don't know what "negging" means, I can explain if you ask, but I assume since this is a dating site you all know what negging is.

And I have to say, that this is an EXCELLENT approach for dealing with girls in groups. You approach the group and open the group as a WHOLE (in which usually using "opinion" types of openers is the best way to do this). Then you neutralize everyone in the group, get THEM to like you and "approve" of you (by displaying higher value to the group) and "negging" your "target". And then, when you've successfully done this and you discover she's shown an interest in you, YOU get her alone.


Granted, I hate Seduction advice, but for an approach of a group, this type of advice is pretty solid.
 

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CalmCoolAndConfident said:
Do it when she is at a table, make eye contact keep it till she breaks off, when she does go up to the table and say confidently "Can talk to you or a minute" if you can grab her hand gently and walk her to a table away from her friends but still within the area that they are, shell feel more comfortable this way, and then talk to her.
This is garaunteed to creep her out.
 

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Vypros said:
Have you ever read the Mystery Method?

Normally I don't condone Seduction material like that, because most of it is useless crap designed to help you "trick" women into liking you instead of teaching you to get your inner game fixed FIRST.

HOWEVER...

The Mystery Method DOES have some solid points, and one of them is how to approach a girl who is in a group.

What he suggests is that you don't sit around and wait for her to "get alone". No, no way. He says that you APPROACH THE ENTIRE GROUP, and neutralize her friends FIRST, while "negging" her (i.e. display higher value to the GROUP, neg her). If you don't know what "negging" means, I can explain if you ask, but I assume since this is a dating site you all know what negging is.

And I have to say, that this is an EXCELLENT approach for dealing with girls in groups. You approach the group and open the group as a WHOLE (in which usually using "opinion" types of openers is the best way to do this). Then you neutralize everyone in the group, get THEM to like you and "approve" of you (by displaying higher value to the group) and "negging" your "target". And then, when you've successfully done this and you discover she's shown an interest in you, YOU get her alone.


Granted, I hate Seduction advice, but for an approach of a group, this type of advice is pretty solid.

Do you know how much balls it takes to stop a group of HB9 - HB 10 in the middle of the hallway and ask them for their names .......
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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KneghtRyder said:
Do you know how much balls it takes to stop a group of HB9 - HB 10 in the middle of the hallway and ask them for their names .......
That is why it will WORK my friend.

CONFIDENCE. Learn it, live it, love it...
 

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I just had a similar thing happen to me, just talk to the chick when you have a bunch of buddies with you, they will talk to the other girls while you focus on getting her number. Works for me plenty of times.
 
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