"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Girls with ALOT of guy friends

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So whats the deal with girls who surround themselves with AFC's. Been dating this girl seems nice enough, always interested in hearing stories about the crazy stuff me and my friends get up to. Then she'll reply with what her friends do in similar situations, except they are always about her GUY friends...she doesn't seem to have many female friends.

She asked me to meet up with her in some bar and when I got theyre she was sitting waiting with 6 guys around her(jesus). Im not the jealous type but 6 guys doting on her is a bit much. Still when I got there tho I was the centre of her attention but Im just a bit weirded out. Building rapport with this girl is basically hearing about how crazy her Guy friends are. Is there anything extra to these girls I should know?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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when I got theyre she was sitting waiting with 6 guys around her(jesus). Im not the jealous type but 6 guys doting on her is a bit much... Is there anything extra to these girls I should know?
Yes. When the hive gets threatened, the male drones move the Queen Bee to a safe spot so that she can't get attacked and then work to seal up the tunnel before the invaders get in. I saw that on a nature show.
 

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I am sure there´s a topic with the EXACT same name. Take a look, there´re many replies there.
 

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Girls with few girl friends and a lot of dude bros around them are *****s.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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trverb said:
So whats the deal with girls who surround themselves with AFC's. Been dating this girl seems nice enough, always interested in hearing stories about the crazy stuff me and my friends get up to. Then she'll reply with what her friends do in similar situations, except they are always about her GUY friends...she doesn't seem to have many female friends.

She asked me to meet up with her in some bar and when I got theyre she was sitting waiting with 6 guys around her(jesus). Im not the jealous type but 6 guys doting on her is a bit much. Still when I got there tho I was the centre of her attention but Im just a bit weirded out. Building rapport with this girl is basically hearing about how crazy her Guy friends are. Is there anything extra to these girls I should know?
Good point.
 

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Okay, seriously, any girl meeting you for a date that has 6 guys attending to her when you get there and that is talking about how guys are crazy for her while on a date with you - is not dating material.

What's the deal with them? They need extraordinarily large copious amounts of male attention to feel validated, and until they have a certificate of completion showing that they've successfully undergone extensive therapy to remedy that, they always will.
 

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Girls with a lot of guy friends is not ALWAYS bad. A girl I hooked up with a few years ago, who ONLY had guy friends (and this is a Riverdancer). She found she connected more with guys than girls (said girls were too backstabbing and annoying).

But...she did not have 6 guys all around her.

Your situation sounds like she wants you in her "realm of guys"...

back off and see what happens. She'll notice you NOT giving her the attention than being "part of the clan". And she'll wonder why you are not around, or calling, etc.

Then decide what to do (mack her or not).

personally I would not invest too much time in this chick unless she shows some obvious signs of wanting to be around JUST you. Other than that, you are just another dude giving her attention.

mike
 

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trverb said:
So whats the deal with girls who surround themselves with AFC's. Been dating this girl seems nice enough, always interested in hearing stories about the crazy stuff me and my friends get up to. Then she'll reply with what her friends do in similar situations, except they are always about her GUY friends...she doesn't seem to have many female friends.

She asked me to meet up with her in some bar and when I got theyre she was sitting waiting with 6 guys around her(jesus). Im not the jealous type but 6 guys doting on her is a bit much. Still when I got there tho I was the centre of her attention but Im just a bit weirded out. Building rapport with this girl is basically hearing about how crazy her Guy friends are. Is there anything extra to these girls I should know?
And we get back to the whole "Ratio" issue. Reverse the numbers, and she would be all over your $hit. She is a full blown Attention Wh0re. She thrives off your psychic energy, like a fukking parasite. She wont put out, but needs you around for non sexual entertainment, like a Court Jester.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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personally I would not invest too much time in this chick unless she shows some obvious signs of wanting to be around JUST you. Other than that, you are just another dude giving her attention.
well heres the thing it wasnt a "date" as such, we have a similar set of friends who were going out anyway. When we met up I swiftly took her off on our own.

We went on a date later just the two of us. The point Im trying to make is when Im talking to this girl its like shes trying to impress me with F***ing GUY stories??? She is interested in JUST being with me alone but its just one of those nagging things in my head.

She knows my intentions "I aint no friend, Baby"
 
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