girls that kiss guys they just met in clubs

[pyros]

hiya.

I'd like to know what do you think about girls that are picked-up in clubs and bars, and the guy tries to kiss her and they agree.
I mean, the girl just met a guy and 10 mins later they are kissing.

What would you think if your girlfriend used to be that girl? used to kiss a random guy that just tried to pick her up?
what would you think if she was the girl that, from time to time, kissed a guy she just met in a club?

I was thinking about my ex, and I never really thought about this issue before, but now that I do, I would not have liked it if she had that 'style' or behaviour.

is it common?
did you ask your gf's if they made out with any guy they just met in a club?

Normally, I just ask them how many sexual partners they've had, how many boyfriends, and that is all. But now Im curious.

Opinions?


thx.

 

[SoSuave666]

I wanted to start a thread about this a while back, but never got around to it. My thread was more geared towards ONS, but hell this is close enough.

These women are all our future wives and girlfriends. Hell, they are some of our sisters too. Women are women are women are women. They are all the same. If they haven't made out with someone they just met at a club then I would probably think something weird is going on with them psychologically. There is no double standard in my eyes anymore. Women go out sometimes with the same mentality that men go out with. Some times they just want to fvck. Some times they want to make out. It's about attention some times, ego boosting, or some times they just want to get a d1ck inside them to feel good. Don't worry about this. EVERY girl does it. Don't ask about it, just assume they have done it. As long as when they are with you they are faithful, that's all that matters. Worrying about their past is FAR too controlling. Women like to have fun, man. And if there weren't girls out there making out and having secks with dudes on the first night, where would we all be?

 

[pyros]

Imagine you have a gf that is sweet, respecful, loyal etc as my ex.
she used to say how slutty some girls in clubs are. How slutty is her neighbour etc.
When I met her, she was 22, had had two boyfriends, and only sex with the last one.
So she was pretty ok.

I would not like a girl that had sex with many dudes, or used to make out with random guys. But if she did make out with some dudes before me, I would find it ok if they were just one, two or three. I dont think she really was the type of girl that liked to make out with a guy she just met, I do believe it.

BUT, one of my guy friends, is always telling me that almost all girls are sluts in some way or another, and that they all had sex with more guys than they would tell you.
I dont think any of my exes lied to me about this, but he makes me wonder...

I think even nice, normal, girls, kiss a random guy in a club at least a couple of times till they find a boyfriend. That is not so bad, but if my girl had kissed many guys she just met in a club, I would not like that.

Am I old fashioned? or naive?

 

[Iceberg]

Some times they just want to fvck. Some times they want to make out. It's about attention some times, ego boosting, or some times they just want to get a d1ck inside them to feel good. Don't worry about this. EVERY girl does it. Don't ask about it, just assume they have done it. As long as when they are with you they are faithful, that's all that matters. Worrying about their past is FAR too controlling. Women like to have fun, man. And if there weren't girls out there making out and having secks with dudes on the first night, where would we all be?

I agree with all of this.

The only thing I can worry about is how people treat me. I don't know your past or this girl's past....But if you treat me well, that's all I can judge you on.

I wouldn't want girls judging me based on my past. So unless a girl's past involved being a meth addict, or having a bunch of kids, I won't judge her.

The way I see it, the only guys who worry about their girlfriends being celibate, virgin, little angels are probably guys who are virgins themselves. They figure "I can't go out and get laid, so I expect my girlfriends to never have gone out to get laid either." A guy like me, who has been around the block, understands that we all have dark secrets, and one night stands, and bad hookups...it's just a part of growing up.

 

[SoSuave666]

Am I old fashioned? or naive?

Naive, definitely.

The bottom line is to not worry about a woman's past. Take it all with a grain of salt. You don't own women. As long as they are faithful while you are together you should be happy. Women will never tell you they go out and fvck lots of guys or makeout with random guys at parties. What benefit does that provide for a woman? They want to remain the cute innocent little girls we all want them to be. Women are smart guys, they know how to burrow themselves in your brain and paint an image of innocence. They are NOT that innocent. I repeat: NOT. THAT. INNOCENT.

 

[pyros]

so you're saying that all of them have made out, had sex, etc, with more guys than they would tell you.

From your point of view, there are no girls that just ****ed one or two dudes, and just made out a few times with random guys, till they got a serious relationship?
They all want you to think they're more innocent than they really are?

I think there are two types:
A) the ones that do not act like guys.
B) the ones that do act like a guy, but in female version.

You both say that you dont care about a womans past if she treats you well...
uhm, what if she had a threesome? what if she had sex witha girl?
what if she had a period of time in which she used to get really drunk and have random sex?

I think, from my experience, that all these things give you valuable information about her as a person, and as your potential partner. Some ppl say this as you do, but if your girl had had a drug adiction, you would want to know right? if she used to have no friends for a long time, you would like to know it and know why, right?

because all this is part of her, so you better get to know her before you commit, in my opinion.

 

[SoSuave666]

so you're saying that all of them have made out, had sex, etc, with more guys than they would tell you.

From your point of view, there are no girls that just ****ed one or two dudes, and just made out a few times with random guys, till they got a serious relationship?
They all want you to think they're more innocent than they really are?

I think there are two types:
A) the ones that do not act like guys.
B) the ones that do act like a guy, but in female version.

By this logic, I think there are two types of men:

A) The ones that do not act like men.
B) The ones that do act like men, in male version.

There are women out there that don't act like men because no one wants them. Fat chicks don't have the opportunities hot chicks do. The majority of women who don't have a promiscuous streak are way more likely to be the ugly ones. With that said, there are a few hot ones out there that probably don't have a bad promiscuous history. You will never know if they are telling the truth about their past though, so why worry about it? Also, the percentages probably go something like this:

Hot women who have a promiscuous history and you know about it: 35%
Hot women who you perceive to not have a promiscuous history because they lie about it: 64%
Hot women who do not have a promiscuous history: 1%

You both say that you dont care about a womans past if she treats you well...
uhm, what if she had a threesome? what if she had sex witha girl?
what if she had a period of time in which she used to get really drunk and have random sex?

This is my point. I don't WANT to know about it. Would my girlfriend want to know that I had a threesome? Would she want to know how many women I have had sex with (lost count after 40)? Would she want to know that I don't value her as an equal? Would she want to know about that one time I took a woman into a bathroom and banged her without ever knowing her name? Of course she wouldn't. I don't want to know about her either. Her past is her past. MOST women have one. Deal with it.

I think, from my experience, that all these things give you valuable information about her as a person, and as your potential partner. Some ppl say this as you do, but if your girl had had a drug adiction, you would want to know right? if she used to have no friends for a long time, you would like to know it and know why, right?

I WOULD care if she had a drug addiction or has an STD; but that's for my own personal hygiene more than anything. Some things SHOULD be shared. Others should be swept under the rug.

 

[r0cky]

I prefer not judge them on it because I wouldnt like for a girl to reject me on the mere fact that she doesnt like my sexual history.

 

[Eternal_water]

Well I hope there are many of them around otherwise its bad news for me.

I completely agree that the only people who tend to think of girls as sweet innocent little angels are virgins who need them to be that way to stand any chance of getting them.

I used to think that way about some but I'm not so naive anymore, now I assume they are the way you have described them until shown otherwise.

And the more prone they are to making out with guys they just met in bars all the better for afcs like me.

How else are we supposed to get any??

 

[Iceberg]

so you're saying that all of them have made out, had sex, etc, with more guys than they would tell you.

From your point of view, there are no girls that just ****ed one or two dudes, and just made out a few times with random guys, till they got a serious relationship?
They all want you to think they're more innocent than they really are?

I think there are two types:
A) the ones that do not act like guys.
B) the ones that do act like a guy, but in female version.

You both say that you dont care about a womans past if she treats you well...
uhm, what if she had a threesome? what if she had sex witha girl?
what if she had a period of time in which she used to get really drunk and have random sex?

I think, from my experience, that all these things give you valuable information about her as a person, and as your potential partner. Some ppl say this as you do, but if your girl had had a drug adiction, you would want to know right? if she used to have no friends for a long time, you would like to know it and know why, right?

because all this is part of her, so you better get to know her before you commit, in my opinion.

I think your expectations that a woman has NO sexual history are based on your own lack of sexual experience.

 

[MM92]

I used to have the same feelings as you Pyros, it's not ideal but you just have to get on with it. As you get older you'll find most females you meet will have a little bit of a dodgey past, but it's the past.

 

[pyros]

Sorry but, if I meet a girl who's 24 I want her to have some criteria when choosing a guy in order to have sex with.

I want a girl this age to have been ****ed by one, two or three guys, and I expect they were their bf's or something like that.
This makes her a good girl, quality one.
SHe just opens her ***** for the ones she carefully chooses, and the ones she wants to be in a relationship with.

I know you like to think differently, because this way you have sex with several women, in other words, women that have sex with several men, and they do not seek any relationship, in other words, sluts. Yeah, you need them, but I dont want my girl to be one.

 

[SoSuave666]

Sorry but, if I meet a girl who's 24 I want her to have some criteria when choosing a guy in order to have sex with.

I want a girl this age to have been ****ed by one, two or three guys, and I expect them to have been her bf's or something like that.
This makes her a good girl, quality one.
SHe just opens her ***** for the ones she carefully chooses, and the ones she wants to be in a relationship with.

I know you like to think differently, because this way you have sex with several women, in other words, women that have sex with several men, and they do not seek any relationship, in other words, sluts. Yeah, you need them, but I dont want my girl to be one.

It's not that I feel bad for people who think like this....

Well actually yea I do. You are holding out for some ideal woman, that although they exist, are surely in the VAST minority. You are pedestalizing your future girlfriend without even knowing her. Women can't make mistakes? A woman you date can't have had ONE one night stand in her life? She can't have been dating ONE guy (and not be bf/gf) and fvck him and leave him? These are deal breakers?

People can change over time. A woman may have had her streak in college (usually when it happens) but they DO tend to wise up. Just because she had fun in college or early twenties and got a lil crazy doesn't mean she is a bad person. It seems to me that you have either no clue how women act or are surrounded by the 64% of women referenced in my previous post. Just because a woman has had more secks than you (which it sounds like they inevitably will) doesn't mean she is in command of you. Women have every right to do what they want, and you better learn that or you are going to be lonely for a long time. It is your job to make them WANT to be with you. If not, they will surely go out and fvck another dude.

In my opinion your line of thinking is also how oneitis occurs. Pedestalized woman who realizes her man can't get anything else and dumps him. His innocent angel is then seen out with other men. What did you expect?

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

It's not that I feel bad for people who think like this....

Well actually yea I do. You are holding out for some ideal woman, that although they exist, are surely in the VAST minority. You are pedestalizing your future girlfriend without even knowing her. Women can't make mistakes? A woman you date can't have had ONE one night stand in her life? She can't have been dating ONE guy (and not be bf/gf) and fvck him and leave him? These are deal breakers?

Like someone said earlier, he makes these deal breakers because he has very limited sexual experience.

When I was an AFC, I assumed that all "perfect" women lived like AFCs too. Only having sex in LTRs. Never drinking or partying. Not making out in clubs. Of course, I thought this way because at the time, I didn't have the ability to have sex outside of LTRs, party, or make out in clubs.

Pyros ideas about women are just a reflection of his own dating life. Which is (no offense), very empty and uneventful. He sounds just like me back in the days when I couldn't get girls.

It seems to me that you have either no clue how women act or are surrounded by the 64% of women referenced in my previous post.

I don't think he's surrounded by any type of women. Which is why he has convinced himself that "good girls" don't have sex.

 

[r0cky]

Like someone said earlier, he makes these deal breakers because he has very limited sexual experience.

When I was an AFC, I assumed that all "perfect" women lived like AFCs too. Only having sex in LTRs. Never drinking or partying. Not making out in clubs. Of course, I thought this way because at the time, I didn't have the ability to have sex outside of LTRs, party, or make out in clubs.

Pyros ideas about women are just a reflection of his own dating life. Which is (no offense), very empty and uneventful. He sounds just like me back in the days when I couldn't get girls.




I don't think he's surrounded by any type of women. Which is why he has convinced himself that "good girls" don't have sex.

I agree. a lot of guys have this hollywood influenced idea of what a good girl should consist of. They dont realize, from their lack of experience, that a good girl can still have imperfections and still have sexual encounters which she may end up regreting. I try not to base my judgement of a girl just based on her sexual activity. Up to a certain point of course.

 

[Iceberg]

This fallacious "no double standards" thinking will get you and others intro trouble. You better start judging chicks with daddy issues ASAP.

I mean, there are definite red flags. Don't get me wrong. It's just that my red flags are a little more realistic than Pyro's red flags....which pretty much consist of "having sex outside of one or two serious LTRs".

If I find out that a girl is cheating on her boyfriends, or banging married dudes, these are obvious issues. Now, I've cheated on girlfriends...and I've banged married women, but obviously, I don't want to date a girl who has done the same. I trust my ability to change that behavior more than I trust a woman's.

But damn, a one night stand every now and then....what attractive person hasn't been in that situation? There are certain things that are part of growing up, and there are other things that are serious character flaws. And Pyro seems to equate having a couple summer flings with blindfolded ******* parties.

 

[Eternal_water]

But damn, a one night stand every now and then....what attractive person hasn't been in that situation?

Hello :wave:

 

[SgtSplacker]

I don't even care anymore, when I was younger I did. But as you get older all the ladies you meet have been around the block a bit. And you don't even have to ask them if they have, you can tell by how they act and what they say. Heck I would love to take a girl out I knew I was going to score with at the end of the night. Now flip the script and have them pay for you!? C'mon that's a no brainer to a broke college girl.

Lets be honest you're standards wouldn't be so high too if you could go out for free and get laid any time you wanted to with anyone even remotely at your appearance level.

Now what you do need to do is use this information to gauge how much of a little tramp she is. If I feel a girl is a little too slvtty and capable of banging one of my friends behind my back for example I would prolly just hit it and quit it. As long as her past does not cause me any inconvenience I really don't care. And as long as the cooties still tight i'm ok.

My metality is that lets say I could marry the porn star of my choice by some kind of strange lottery. Am I gonna be all hung up on all the other dudes that have crushed her in the past? So would I just pass that up?... negative blue leader i'm hitting that porn style until my nuts shrivel up. Arm candy at the family gatherings and all, with pride. "Hi mom this is my girlfriend, I love her so much! Mom? are you ok?"

In the end I am the leader of my pride, a poon pounding beast with little regard for such intricacies as her previous suitors. Always looking forward never back. The only thing I care about is what she does in front of me. And the things that affect my day to day life. She either stays in line with me or it's off to fend for herself in the wild for her.

Anyways as soon as a girl even thinks your trying to judge her on her past the lie switch gets turned on and you will never get any semblance of honesty from her. You become a stupid dork to be managed with lies.

Be a man, get over that crap bro. Be the LION bangin pride HOs.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

The girl that does this sort of stuff at a club is looking for an ego boost.. But more importantly, focus on yourself. It is an ego boost for you (and most of us) to be with a woman (or women) who have not done things like this. But let's look at the reality of it.

If you're living in a major city (NYC, LA, London etc..) I'm sure at least 90% of women have made out with a stranger. But think deeper into it. Why does it matter? I've made out with a stranger and I'm sure a lot of us on here have as well.

Don't take their past of clubbing into consideration (unless you just don't like girls that go to clubs.. If it makes you feel insecure, then don't take it into consideration), just let the pieces fall where they may. You will still be alive if the girl you are seeing makes out or fvcks a random guy in a club.. The only reason that this may harm your ego is if you feel that you weren't good enough for her, and that's why she did what she did. AND THAT.. is the roots of insecurity.

 

[bigneil]

How about when they have sex with someone they just met within 10 minutes? That happens too sometimes. Even with sweet girls. They can be overwhelmed by masculinity.

Kissing within 10 minutes is nothing. I've kissed 20 women within 10 minutes of meeting them (including almost all girlfriends lately). You need to get the vibe down. I just had a lunch date (first date) and the girl (a manager at a top clothing store who asked me out) started kissing me at the table. I asked her "Ok, what is it about me lately?" and she said "It's everything. Your eyes, your height, your hands, your voice, your accent. You're just irresistible." People can learn this. I'm not that good looking.