Girls that complain about men not approaching and guys not approaching

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Found it on twitter and totally sure it's worth talking about it especially since reels with girls complaining about men "not approaching" are everywhere.

She complains men stare all night and never say hi. Let me explain.

Men today walk into the nightclub like soldiers parachuting into enemy territory. Every glance is surveillance. Every step is reconnaissance. He wants to approach, but the battlefield has landmines everywhere.

Say hi too fast --> You’re a predator. Say hi too slow --> You’re a loser. Buy a drink --> You’re a walking ATM. Compliment her dress --> Now you’re HR’s problem.

So the man just stands there, calculating like he’s launching a nuclear strike, clutching his overpriced drink, running probability tables in his head like Einstein with PTSD. Meanwhile she’s across the room writing feminist thinkpieces in her mind about how men don’t approach anymore.

At the end of the night she goes home complaining about the death of chivalry, and he goes home relieved he didn’t catch a lawsuit. That’s modern romance. A demilitarized zone on a dance floor.

 

[Donisio]

They are to blame for this.

And, not ironically, it is men who are paying the price.

 

[Solomon]

No woman is going to sue you if you go up to her in a bar and say hello
If men are that scared stay your ass at home
They only way you make a fool out of yourself approaching a woman as a man is if you're doing something goofy or are a major dirtbag
If you are socially calibrated and she refuses...that's part of the game....

Are there bitchy women sure they are and there bitchy women 10 years ago and 10 years before that and so forth, its all about social calibration you guys make it sound like it's rocket ****ing science when it's not

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

No woman is going to sue you if you go up to her in a bar and say hello
If men are that scared stay your ass at home
They only way you make a fool out of yourself approaching a woman as a man is if you're doing something goofy or are a major dirtbag
If you are socially calibrated and she refuses...that's part of the game....

Are there bitchy women sure they are and there bitchy women 10 years ago and 10 years before that and so forth, its all about social calibration you guys make it sound like it's rocket ****ing science when it's not

I understand your point and I agree with most of it.

The only issue is that we have plenty of cases of men whos social skills were not totally calibrated that despite not doing anything inappropriate got falsely accuses of actions they didnt commit and got into troubles, not only on work places but also on venues.

We reached a point where it's no longer a wrong behaviour or action to trigger the backlash but the mood or the politics of the woman you're unlucky to meet that day.
I believe that's the point.

Not to possess above average social skills especially if you're ugly and never had the chance to practice, should not be ground for punishments.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Found it on twitter and totally sure it's worth talking about it especially since reels with girls complaining about men "not approaching" are everywhere

Reminds me of a few words written by Dante Moore, in his barbarically forgotten book The Re-Education Of The Female

And a few words from Stephanie Palmer's "Good In A Room" are applicable to gals who are in the market for a man:

When you're a seller, the buyer automatically has a higher status than you do, thus it's incumbent on the seller to, in some sense, subordinate(submit?)themselves to the desires and needs of the buyer

Just as a disconcerting amount of men these days have retreated into a permanent state of adolescence, and are walking around town in cartoon Ts and cargo shorts, entirely too many women who clearly ain't in HS are desperately prolonging their "edgy teen" era, by sporting anime dyed hair and a face full of piercings

It's nothing less than insane for ANYONE in either of the above named camps to expect anyone except a fellow malcontent to find them especially desirable

 

[plumber]

I understand your point and I agree with most of it.

The only issue is that we have plenty of cases of men whos social skills were not totally calibrated that despite not doing anything inappropriate got falsely accuses of actions they didnt commit and got into troubles, not only on work places but also on venues.

We reached a point where it's no longer a wrong behaviour or action to trigger the backlash but the mood or the politics of the woman you're unlucky to meet that day.
I believe that's the point.

Not to possess above average social skills especially if you're ugly and never had the chance to practice, should not be ground for punishments.

higher T, results in this internal loop dissolving. man will just eval, approach, read the response, retreat or advance. the rejection or possible rejection will not soak in. lower t, it soaks in and sits within for days, weeks, years.

 

[tksniper]

I understand your point and I agree with most of it.

The only issue is that we have plenty of cases of men whos social skills were not totally calibrated that despite not doing anything inappropriate got falsely accuses of actions they didnt commit and got into troubles, not only on work places but also on venues.

We reached a point where it's no longer a wrong behaviour or action to trigger the backlash but the mood or the politics of the woman you're unlucky to meet that day.
I believe that's the point.

Not to possess above average social skills especially if you're ugly and never had the chance to practice, should not be ground for punishments.

The problem with this is that the average hot woman gets hit on and harassed daily by men she isn’t attracted to. Even when she is dressed down and trying to be invisible, there’s a loser trying to holler at her.

So yes, outside of the bars and clubs, unattractive and miscalibrated men will be punished.

Imagine you’re a woman and you’re just trying to get a work out and 10 unattractive guys are eye fvcking you. And the only guy you want attention from is completely immersed in his workout. Lol.

Then imagine this same woman going to a bar and getting hounded by losers while the only guys she’s attracted to are already there with a woman.

Now imagine this same woman at work getting hit on by nerdy Clark Kent who thinks he has a chance. At this point she’s going to HR. She’s not going to HR because of the office nerd. She’s doing it because she’s frustrated with the amount of men she isn’t attracted to hounding her on a daily basis.

If you are low value and miscalibrated and you’re thinking that approaching her is a brilliant idea, just know that 1000 guys before you thought the same thing.

Approaching women is not hard. Becoming high value is hard.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

The problem with this is that the average hot woman gets hit on and harassed daily by men she isn’t attracted to. Even when she is dressed down and trying to be invisible, there’s a loser trying to holler at her.

So yes, outside of the bars and clubs, unattractive and miscalibrated men will be punished.

Imagine you’re a woman and you’re just trying to get a work out and 10 unattractive guys are eye fvcking you. And the only guy you want attention from is completely immersed in his workout. Lol.

Then imagine this same woman going to a bar and getting hounded by losers while the only guys she’s attracted to are already there with a woman.

Now imagine this same woman at work getting hit on by nerdy Clark Kent who thinks he has a chance. At this point she’s going to HR. She’s not going to HR because of the office nerd. She’s doing it because she’s frustrated with the amount of men she isn’t attracted to hounding her on a daily basis.

If you are low value and miscalibrated and you’re thinking that approaching her is a brilliant idea, just know that 1000 guys before you thought the same thing.

Approaching women is not hard. Becoming high value is hard.

I undestand, so can I also demand that beggars, homeless people, door to door sellers and other low status individuals that annoy me in my daily life be punished?
It's the whole day they are pestering me, I'm exhausted.

Can I report them for stalking or harassment while that same behaviour coming from a car dealer of a brand I like is tolerated?
What about getting phone calls from a car dealer from a brand I dislike since the crime happens when its me to perceive the offence and not the behaviour itself?

The issue here is that we're punishing the person and not the behaviour which is basically the opposite of the concept of "the law is the same for everyone".

Dont get me wrong, I perfectly understand what you mean especially in the fifth paragraph.

Either getting naked in a public place is a crime or it's not...it cannot be yes or no according to the physical shape of subject and how the people around decide.

At this point we either tell precisely when and where is appropriate to approach with a clear law or problems and confusion will arise.

 

[tksniper]

I undestand, so can I also demand that beggars, homeless people, door to door sellers and other low status individuals that annoy me in my daily life be punished?
It's the whole day they are pestering me, I'm exhausted.

Can I report them for stalking or harassment while that same behaviour coming from a car dealer of a brand I like is tolerated?
What about getting phone calls from a car dealer from a brand I dislike since the crime happens when its me to perceive the offence and not the behaviour itself?

The issue here is that we're punishing the person and not the behaviour which is basically the opposite of the concept of "the law is the same for everyone".

Dont get me wrong, I perfectly understand what you mean especially in the fifth paragraph.

Either getting naked in a public place is a crime or it's not...it cannot be yes or no according to the physical shape of subject and how the people around decide.

At this point we either tell precisely when and where is appropriate to approach with a clear law or problems and confusion will arise.

Society caters to women so you are banging your head against a wall that won’t budge.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Found it on twitter and totally sure it's worth talking about it especially since reels with girls complaining about men "not approaching" are everywhere.

She complains men stare all night and never say hi. Let me explain.

Men today walk into the nightclub like soldiers parachuting into enemy territory. Every glance is surveillance. Every step is reconnaissance. He wants to approach, but the battlefield has landmines everywhere.

Say hi too fast --> You’re a predator. Say hi too slow --> You’re a loser. Buy a drink --> You’re a walking ATM. Compliment her dress --> Now you’re HR’s problem.

So the man just stands there, calculating like he’s launching a nuclear strike, clutching his overpriced drink, running probability tables in his head like Einstein with PTSD. Meanwhile she’s across the room writing feminist thinkpieces in her mind about how men don’t approach anymore.

At the end of the night she goes home complaining about the death of chivalry, and he goes home relieved he didn’t catch a lawsuit. That’s modern romance. A demilitarized zone on a dance floor.

Nu uh! F*ck these women! Let me explain as an all time club goer.

Women are playing poker with a full house. Men walk in hoping for a pair. What I mean by this is that women ALWAYS have the upperhand at the club. Always. The bouncers are on their side. The bar keepers are on their side. The men and the women are on their side. Social media is on their side [they can make fun of men in a story any second]. They are basically celebrities. And they always come in groups.

And they expect men to crash through all of this to say hi. It's not just the rejection he has to worry about. It's the social shame, the possibility of being considered less to all the spectating eyes, being seen as lower, and that's not even talking about his self esteem. And let's just say the girls are at their most vulnerable. Broke up with a guy, haven't gotten laid, there's not many people there, it's only a pair instead of five to ten in a group. She still has the upperhand to milk the guy for attention...then leave him high and dry. Seen this way too many times. A woman uses him for a little validation, then walks off with her friend(s).

F*ck these women! You can't walk into a place where you have everyone protecting you, along with always have the ability to walk away with no shame, and you expect the guy to YOLO up to women for a chance at $1 p*ssy.

Hell nah.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Society caters to women so you are banging your head against a wall that won’t budge.

*Western society caters to women...and it does as long as the people multiplying like ****roaches and making noise dont become too much (which is happening at least in Europe).

I'm not advocating anything btw, at my age I'm happily disconnected from society, enjoyed the 00s and the 10s now observing the decline and pillaging anytime I can.

The problem is for the poor fellas in their late teens and early 20s, we didnt do them any favour and despite I have no role in that, I feel bad for them.

 

[tksniper]

*Western society caters to women...and it does as long as the people multiplying like ****roaches and making noise dont become too much (which is happening at least in Europe).

I'm not advocating anything btw, at my age I'm happily disconnected from society, enjoyed the 00s and the 10s now observing the decline and pillaging anytime I can.

The problem is for the poor fellas in their late teens and early 20s, we didnt do them any favour and despite I have no role in that, I feel bad for them.

I actually don’t. I know that seems harsh but I’ve seen way too many young guys complain about the entitlement of women rather than focus on what it takes to be great and overcome all obstacles. When a guy is focused on overcoming the status quo and bettering himself beyond a level where he can be denied, I am there with him every step of the way. But if he’s just another desperado looking for women to be nicer to him, I have no patience nor compassion for that. As men we were meant to be conquerors, not complaininers.

I know it’s hard, but you never stop being masculine. Towards manhood !!!

 

[Barrister]

This message seems overly dramatic. I agree to an extent that men generally speaking are scared to make a move. I think that has more to do with worrying about screwing up - which is ironic since you of course miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The whole "lawsuit" line is nonsensical unless you are heading to a venue with your office mates and no else. No random chick is going to file charges because you tried to hit on her in a bar or night club.

Most men outside of SS don't realize that it typically doesn't matter what you say as long as you say it confidently and are charismatic in your delivery. It is this overthinking described in the OP that is problematic, but it has little to do with anything more than that. And no - these men go home feeling frustrated - not relieved. They need SS in their lives.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The OP is obviously satirical but it does highlight a very real issue. The same women who are responsible for stigmatizing men as "creeps" are now complaining that men don't approach. The law of unintended consequences.

 

[Bigpapa]

The OP is obviously satirical but it does highlight a very real issue. The same women who are responsible for stigmatizing men as "creeps" are now complaining that men don't approach. The law of unintended consequences.

I still think that it is better to not be approached, than to be approached by a guy that is not uncalibrated

Seen plenty of weirdos that were following women around …

but at the same time also women became kinda uncalibrated, so it is a game that has no winners just casualties

 

[Bokanovsky]

I still think that it is better to not be approached, than to be approached by a guy that is not uncalibrated

Seen plenty of weirdos that were following women around …

but at the same time also women became kinda uncalibrated, so it is a game that has no winners just casualties

There are guys like that but they are a small minority of men (and often suffer from autism or other mental health issues).

 

[Bigpapa]

There are guys like that but they are a small minority of men (and often suffer from autism or other mental health issues).

Na man, the average guy is a chump. Has little to no social skills

 

[BaronOfHair]

*Western society caters to women...and it does as long as the people multiplying like ****roaches and making noise dont become too much (which is happening at least in Europe)

These folks you mention hail from a portion of the globe which, if both The Woke Left AND The Alt Right are to be believed, men are still men and women are unfailingly submissive. Inviting MORE of them in may be the simplest way to create the Red Pill Utopia so many rock stars of The Manosphere yearn for

 

[Bokanovsky]

Na man, the average guy is a chump. Has little to no social skills

Lack of social skills is not the same thing as being a stalker. The average woman has no social skills either. If you treat people with poor social skills like they are serial killers, how are they supposed to improve their skills?

 

[Bigpapa]

Lack of social skills is not the same thing as being a stalker

that is the thing, they stalk them because they do not know when to open them or reopen them

I have seen this so many times from guys that looked normal, that i am not shocked when I see ir and just put is as normal behavior

They might be shy, fair point. But walking after girl in clubs or staying close to them and starting at them, that is is just wrong dude

even in public transport, I do not think there is a city where girls were not grabbed by the ass when the bus/ subway / tram was not packed. That is why most girls do not really use public transport unless they really really have to