"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Girls tell the reason why guys don't have girlfriends.

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The responses surprised me because it wasn't the normal BS girls spout.

I decided to help all the guys out that wonder why they're single. I asked many of my female facebook friends to tell me why they (or girls in general) ignore guys. A lot of the stuff they said matches what this community talks about.

Read, learn, and apply!

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one of the reasons a guy may not have a girlfriend is that he may want to be single,If a guy is not a good listener, is selfish, is cheap, unromantic and doesnt know how to show his emotions when the time calls for it. I have passed up men in my past because they were extreme liars, trying to make themselves more appealing by lying about money, possessions, jobs, etc. If a man is not confident in himself when he approaches me, this is also a turn off. My definition of confidence in a man is when he speaks to me he maintains eye contact, he speaks with a confident tone, as if he is assured that by the end of the contact he will have obtained my phone number, for example. He walks with his head up, shoulders back and chest out. Most women ignore men who appear weak and not sure of themselves, shy men who don't or won't initiate the first contact or conversation, men that appear unhappy with themselves, or are overtly rude or chauvenistic.​

2.
I guy who is dirty, a jerk, rude, a player, has an std, and has no manners will not get dates or a girlfriend.I tend to be attracted to guys who have alot of hobbies. Guys who have many dreams and or interest. A confident man is smooth, has swagger, and poise. They are not overbearing, extremely jealous, nor do they need you. Most girls tend to ignore obsessive, controlling, dirty, nerdy, disoriented, rude, and unfaithful guys.​

3.
Guys who are arrogant ignorant ugly dumb dysfunctional cheap and dishonest. I will only date black guys and with one kids.​

4.
Bad social skills also known as Creepy.
Not confident enough - doesn't like you hanging out with other people
Bad Hygiene- smells bad, doesn't brush teeth
Rude - hits on other girls,
Liar- Lies a lot

in my opinion most girls over look guys who are quiet and bashful. Not because they don't have good skills but because they don't get noticed.​

5.
Some guys are just immature and they dont know what the really want in life. I like anytype of guy as long as he is nice too me and honest not a lier.​

6.
Dirty, rude, too needy, clingy, very argumentative, lack of confidence and low self-esteem (they don't think they are good enough for me), does not have priorities in order, and has nothing going for them.​

7.
Usually guys with a lack of confidence meaning someone who doesnt feel good about/believe in themselves, excessively shy men, some one who is afraid to stand up for his lady. In my opinion a man has to be assertive but sweet to get a girl, make the first move and always be polite. Rude men and men who can only think of themselves is a major turn off.​

8.
It is important for men to primp themselves as well, if not better, than women. Presentation is a large factor. Also, there is a fine line between confidence and ****yness. A smart man knows how far to build himself up. I also find that I would turn down dates with anyone who I didn't admire in some way.​

9.
Guys that are slobs, don't have good personal hygiene, wear dirty clothes, live in a dirty apartment often don't get girls. Guys without jobs or any disposable income and cannot afford to go out (not necessarily pay for the girl) and do fun, social activities. Guys that disrespect women, their emotions, their bodies do not get dates or have girlfriends. Guys that have no sense of humor or take the girl or themselves too seriously.​

10.
Inability to listen to others but talks endlessly himself, has an ego that shines through way too often, prides himself on how many women he's slept with, etc. I like guys with a few solid friends who he trusts and who trust him. Most girls ignore guys who come off as incredibly desperate or very aggressive. A guy needs to be confident, but not ****y. That means that girls are attracted to dating guys who are healthy (physically and mentally), but not guys who are constantly checking themselves out in the mirror or constantly thinking only of themselves.​
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Lack of confidence or ability to hold a conversation. Doesn't dress very well or wears way too much cologne. Not very smart. Lack of ambition. Ignorant and/or uneducated. Bad manners, eg not polite or bad table manners. Significantly overweight. I think most girls wouldn't go for a guy who's not as least somewhat goodlooking or who puts no thought into his appearance, and shows a general lack of intelligence.​

12.
Guys that where there jeans hang under there butt not cute . Then the guy with the pottie mouth hate it​

13.
Not educated, Stalker, To needy, Bad hygiene, Bad father if they have kids.​

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Over confidence there is nothing worse than a guy that's stuck on himself. A guy that says you know what I mean after every thing that he says. A guy that says come on you know you want to. A guy with bad hygiene. There's nothing worse then a guy that has bad breathe that wants to kiss all the time. A guy with a funky sense of style is cool but, there is a difference between a guy with his own style and bad taste. A guy that shouts insults after you say no thank you. A guy that invites you out then wants to go dutch,skips out on the bill or pretends that he lost his wallet. Men that live with their mother and lie or try to hide it. Honesty is the key. If you are taking care of your mother that's one thing. Flat out lying is different. Men that think they are too cool for everything. Example men that call everything lame. That movie is so lame. Men that try to be different. Example men that paint their finger nails black and wear eyeliner ironically because it" sets them apart from society". Men that twitter how vain is that. Men hat take my space and face-book pictures purposely. Men that exaggerate about the size of their member and their performance. Men that make fun of people that read for relaxation. Men that make crude comments for the benefit of their friends. Men that sleep around with and without protection. Men that are unemployed and blame it on the economy. Men that are homophobic. Men that are closed minded and feel that everyone Else's opinion is wrong. The tough guy that tries to intimidate everyone. The guy that didn't pay attention in class and now can't hold a conversation. The sports fanatic that would cancel a date because the big game is on.The guy that is rude to the clerk, waiter, etc. Lol this is a brief list of guys that most girls ignore.​

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Honestly bad boys are always the best. Not neccessarily ones that go to jail and commit crimes. Ones that dont have a problem confronting another man that is looking at his girlfriend or a guy whom will put his foot down and say you are not wearing that. men who are too square such as ones that dont understand slang or that have no clue whats the latest fashion are turn offs. Also, men who do not have creative minds or common sense such as ones that dont know how to get thinking of you cards or gifts for no occassion. Guys who brag about their selves are turn offs. It shows they will pay no attention to you instead will give all the attention and credit to them selves. Also, guys who are too insecure about their irlfriends or their selves is a turn off as well. Example being with a guy for 5 years and he still is unsure if he wants to get married or ever have children.​

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Poor personal hygene, bad manners, crass, chauvinistic, too close to their ex-girlfriend(s). When he has children from past relationships and the mothers of their children are psycho/try to ruin his new relationships, too much of a "mama's boy" (values his mother's opinion over yours, his mother did everything for him and now he expects you to do the same, constantly comparing you to his mother), family is too crazy/creepy.

Girls usually ignore physically unattractive guys, who aren't "manly" enough, overweight, questionable sexuality, with no money/job, someone who they feel can't "protect" them, guys who are very poorly endowed.​

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Rude, arrogant, full of themselves , cokey, lazy, mean, selfish, scumbags .​

18.
- more into themselves (too concerned about their hair,clothes,body)
- overly confident (thinks they are gods gift to women)
- ****y
- clingy, doesnt have his own life and wants to do everything together
- no sense of humor
- no morals
- lack of motivation
- no direction in life
- uneducated
- no dreams or aspirations
- doesnt want to get married and have children​

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I would never date a ****y or controlling man. You can tell pretty quickly when a guy is gonna try and run your life for you. You can also tell if they are selfish. That is the biggest turn off ever! You want to know your working as a team and it's not just about them. I need someone with a personality if your boring forget it. I love a guy that can make me laugh. There's having to bug a personality too, that no one likes a loud ****y guy.​

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Confidence i think is huge in trying to get a girl. If a girl notices that ur nervous in my opinion she will think you are not a strong man. Confidence is the way u feel about yourself and your human qualities. Also, a guy that tries to hard is never good either. It makes them look desperate and that is not an attractive quality to females. I would like to say money doesnt matter but i think we all kno thats not true. Now you dont have to have millions of dollars in the bank but you have to have ambition and dreams and goals.​
 

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I would not date a guy who uses drugs or drinks too much. I do not like guys who do not have a sense of humor or a outgoing personality. I avoid men who do not have jobs or cars. I like men who dance and have a good time. I hate men that are shy and do not eat in front of a girl.I will not date a cheater!! Or a guy who is too full fo himself or is too insecure..​

22.
Lack of ambition, Lazy, unfaithful, liars, insecure​

23.
I think that most guys want a girl who is independant, carefree, attractive, and funny. i think we as women think men want supermodels, women with big boobs and look like they have had a bit too much plastic surgery so we compete with eachother to achieve this look. I'm not saying there are men out there who like that look but i think a majority don't want the "barbie stereotype" I also think guys don't want to date stuck-up *****es either or ones who never had a job and their only purpose in life is too mooch off mommmy and daddy. I know when I am attracted to a guy of course the physical is a big part but a guy has to make me laugh, be romantic, affectionate, and be able to stand by me thru thick and thin.​

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I think guys with no job, guys who are too ****y or guys who are too nervous or unsure of themselves will all have trouble finding a girlfriend. A girl likes someone who can take the lead and make her feel wanted, so confidence is a must. A guy has to be able to be the man and have a certain amount of stability in his life to be attractive to me.​

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Girls don't like guys that they walk all over them. The guy should definitely be there to do manly stuff, but know when to say "No". Which brings me to my next point. No wussies. Girls want a guy that can stick up for her. If some guys mouthing off, the boyfriend should take care of it. Also, girls DO NOT like needy guys. Let the girl call you somedays. If the guy is the only one calling, texting, even facebook, there is a problem. Guys should be sweet, surprise a girl once in awhile, but lay down the law as to who is boss.​

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determination to do something with they're life. The willingness to do things on his own without prompt or constant nagging. Most men are ok doing one thing and thats it. Ambition is key. I like guys who can get along with anyone, no matter what ethnicity, creed, religion. The kind of guy i can introduce to anyone i know.​

27.
I think that some men cannot get a date because they do not have confidence. They cannot find the courage to go up and talk to a girl and if they do they usually stutter or say something stupid or trip. A guy that does have good confidence isn't afraid to be themselves around girls. They often make the first move and generally do not seem too desperate. Most girls ignore men that they couldn't see themselves with long term whether its becuase of looks, background, or education. Also, if a man isn't romanctic or a good lover it could turn girls off.​

28.
I thing it's over-confidence that most causes me to be turned off by a guy. Arrogance is the WORST! Lack of motivation and laziness are a close second. Also still being dependent on your parents, or just looking for someone to take care of them. I still know some guys, even at 25, who are like that. I think it's hard to say what type of guy most girls ignore, since I'm only one girl, but for me it's someone who demands attention, not just from his potential girlfriend but everyone around him. He has to keep tabs on them because of his own insecurities. It's tiring and incredibly unattractive. I like guys who have their own friends, their own things to do but who can all mesh well together. It seems to me that if you and your guy are going to be compatible for the long run, their friends and your friends would be too. Obviously not EVERYBODY, but you get the idea.​

29.
Confidence in a man is not something easily put into words. It is something that a person radiates. A confident man is decisive. He walks proudly and doesn't slump. He isn't afraid to make eye contact. He expresses his opinion firmly and doesn't double check himself.

Things that cause a guy not have dates or a girlfriend:

-low self esteem
-sorry to be honest, but being overweight, I need someone active like myself
-too obsessed with one hobby (video games, gym, a specific sport, birdwatching)
-drinks excessively
-smokes pot more than once a month or does hard drugs
-watches more than 3 hours of TV a week
-bad body odor
-being more concerned with primping than me​
 

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Isn't the general consensus around here is that women are full of sh!t and have no idea wtf it is they want?

Seems like # 14 doesnt like men period

Save yourself 5 minutes. The gist of it is that women want a man who is confident, can hold a conversation and be comfortable with himself. Basically they want Don Juans.

Go get em boys.
 

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Don Wha said:
Didn't we agree that women are full of sh!t and have no idea wtf it is they want?

Seems like # 14 doesnt like men period

Save yourself 5 minutes. The gist of it is that women want a man who is confident.
Or a man who's attractive, has options, rich, or has high status.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This entire list is fairly retarded.

Its all a bunch of generalizations. you could flip this around to what guys dont want in girls..


I truly believe there is something about attraction that is very personal.

Girls and guys just have a certain something that attracts them to the other person. We all know who's hot but I'm talking on a deeper level. If you can trigger whatever that thing is then you are in, and you can do almost no wrong.

I think we are attracted to what we wish we were ourselves to some extent or perhaps something that brings out the best in us. Its happened to me. I met this girl that has just brought out the very best in me (sounds corny) but I consider her to be the most amazing person I've ever met. Its crazy.
 

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I'm confused

Most girls I have talked to about men have named these reasons and more. Pretty much what you find on her about being confident and what not

where is all this girls want AFC's stuff coming from? what girls are telling men these things? Even my own Momma hasn't lied to me like that
 

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I respect you going out and doing the research, but this is just a random list of complaints. One girl says she doesn't want a guy's confidence too high, the next girl says she doesn't want it too low. Some chick says you can't be too deep into one hobby. Just sounds like a bunch of chicks whining about their own personal experiences, and then trying to tie it in as a negative for ALL men.

It'd be like if I dated a girl who ate tacos every night, and my reply to your question was "The reason why girls don't have boyfriend is because they eat tacos every night."

This just sounds like some stuff you'd read on one of those online dating sights. "I want a guy who has hobbies, doesn't drink, and has confidence."
 

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The media depicts women as faultless saints who want AFCs because the media is controlled by feminist women and liberal (beta) men.
 

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The gist of it is that women want a man who is confident, can hold a conversation and be comfortable with himself. Basically they want Don Juans.
I agree, most of the answers were along these lines. Which is pretty much the same thing guys say on this forum, so I don't understand some of the negative posts.

Some of the girls didn't like guys who were too confident or ****y. When girls say this, I always wonder if they really found these guys attractive, but didn't trust them, and thought that they would likely run off with some other girl (he probably will). OR maybe girls really DON'T like guys who are ****y, and they just want them to be confident enough to look them in the eye and take care of the situation. I haven't decided which I think is true yet.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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99.999 % of women are unable to give a real ( USEFULL ) answer as they dont know what attracts them....
never ask women for dating advice!
 

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99.999 % of women are unable to give a real ( USEFULL ) answer as they dont know what attracts them....
never ask women for dating advice!
Well, that's the typical answer you get on this forum, but I don't see how it applies in this case. Look at this answer I just pulled out from the post completely randomly:

6. Dirty, rude, too needy, clingy, very argumentative, lack of confidence and low self-esteem (they don't think they are good enough for me), does not have priorities in order, and has nothing going for them.
This could have been written as advice by any guy on this forum. I think a lot of you are dismissing this just as a conditioned reflex without actually reading what's being said. Most of the girls are saying exactly the same things the guys here will tell you. There are a few exceptions, but most are.
 

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Funny how there's only one girl who says she is not attracted to overweight guys...and she has to apologize in advance before she says that. Whereas with men, "not fat" would be one of the most common traits we look for.

Looking at the list more closely, none of the traits listed are physical. If guys made a list, it would be about looks and sex more than anything.

For every trait a girl lists, what she is really talking about is the way that trait makes her feel. But any way that you can push that same emotional button works just as well.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Proselytiser said:
When a girl says she doesn't like a guy because he is too '****y', 'overconfident' or 'arrogant', it is because they can see through to a weak interior. In other words, incongruence
That

and also the fact that no self respecting woman would want some guy who's too busy fvcking his reflection to fvck her

Not many people care for people who walk with their noses so high they'd drown in a rain storm
 

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The advice is on point.
 

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Alot of these traits are things that 99.9% of human beings in general, male or female, don't like anyway.

The general theme is those 'emotional buttons'. It all comes back to that.

Most people typically fall somewhere in the middle and each woman has a different standard as to what she will or won't accept.
 

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I guy who is dirty, a jerk, rude, a player, has an std, and has no manners will not get dates or a girlfriend..
2nd point and already wrong.

You cant blame women for not understanding what gets their emotions going and their attraction reeling for a guy. But you can blame yourself for listening to a woman give advice.

This article is no different. Its bad advice.

'Be nice, be sweet, have hobbies, be confident- but not too confident, be a beta'
 

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Are your friends 10 or illiterate? Not to be a grammar Nazi but this makes me cringe:
12. Guys that where there jeans hang under there butt not cute . Then the guy with the pottie mouth hate it
And it's a shame too because she was one of the few people with worthwhile comments. Sagged jeans do look retarded and swearing like a sailor is generally counter-productive.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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