"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Girls tell me I'm skinny

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Girls will sometimes tell me, "You're so skinny!" or just, "You're skinny." But always with a big smile.

Is this good or bad?

A couple of guys have told me they are jealous. I think they might be right, it's like a woman's version of a neg.


Edit for clarification: I've been working out for 6 years. I'm in great shape, but I have a skinny/cut body when compared to bodybuilders.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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That's a neg brah.

Start eating and working out. Bulk up.

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At my last weigh in, I weighed 60kg, 132lbs and as a man who is way below average in terms of height at 5'5. Most people will say that I am small and scrawny/skinny, but I don't see myself as being any of those things.

Fortunately for me I am comfortable and happy with my height and weight, so these things are not hang ups or issues with me. If a woman is put off by my height and weight than that's her problem, not mine. :)
 

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are the women fat that said that?

I got into the best shape of my life in 2009.

My sister said nobody would date me....boy was she totally wrong. I got more looks then ever before.

My girlfriend at the time said the same thing...too skinny.

they were both over weight.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bible_Belt said:
All women think they're fat. Calling you skinny makes them feel less fat.
I'd have thought it would create the opposite effect?
 

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Hey, at least they're thinking about your body.
They probably want to run their hands over your flat abdomen.

Don't forget girls like boys that they can fix.
Maybe they want to fatten you up!

Go ahead and add some muscle, but I used to be way too scrawny and I still got girls. I later bulked up but I didn't notice any discernable difference in the way girls treated me. But I felt better about myself.
 

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Judge for yourself.

I've been called skinny when I was at my fittest, and at 85kg. Funnily enough, it was one week after another girl said "youve grown bulkier since we last met".

So yeah whatever. Look in the mirror. Think for yourself.
 

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OC Speedball said:
Girls will sometimes tell me, "You're so skinny!" or just, "You're skinny." But always with a big smile.

Is this good or bad?

A couple of guys have told me they are jealous. I think they might be right, it's like a woman's version of a neg.

its not good or bad but the fact you care so much is definitely, definitely BAD.
 

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The girls saying it are average. (It's hard to find a true in-shape girl). Some are a tad chubby. Usually I'll just say "o rly?" and then flex my biceps or lift up my shirt, and then they usually touch me, haha.

I have been working out for 6 years, but thanks for the suggestion. I am a hard gainer, so I have trouble putting on mass. I tried to really bulk up once but I only gained a few pounds. Now I work out to stay cut. I'm in better shape than most guys.



^I'm not worried about it, but I was wondering what it meant. It's just like asking what it means when a girl says anything. Basically I'm asking for a womanspeak translation because I get it a lot, and maybe I could use it to my advantage.

Thanks for the comments guys.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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OC Speedball said:
Girls will sometimes tell me, "You're so skinny!" or just, "You're skinny." But always with a big smile.

Is this good or bad?

A couple of guys have told me they are jealous. I think they might be right, it's like a woman's version of a neg.
Who the h3ll cares! Be who you want to be, BROTHA.
 

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Huffman said:
Judge for yourself.

I've been called skinny when I was at my fittest, and at 85kg. Funnily enough, it was one week after another girl said "youve grown bulkier since we last met".

So yeah whatever. Look in the mirror. Think for yourself.
Yeas, same here. People don't know sh!t, some think you are skinny when you are not bulky, nor in shape- I call these people skinny/fat. But you bulk up maintaning roghly same body fat percentage and they think you have gotten fat. I am 210lbs- no one calls me skinny anymore, but I get more fat comments now if I pack on a little bit of extra fat due to cheating on my meals. When they call you skinny, they really mean that you are not physically intimidating at all. When I was skinny/fat people gave me no respect, now that I am bulky people get scared when running into me. My buddy is 6-6", around 280+, with a lot of fat, he is very intimediating to be around, some people called him a "bodybuilder", but he has at least 50lbs of extra fat on there.
 

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"Girls will sometimes tell me, "You're so skinny!" or just, "You're skinny." But always with a big smile"

1) Sometimes they say you are SKINNY or SO SKINNY, not TOO SKINNY. Big difference.

2) Never lsten to what a girl/woman says, but look at her ACTIONS = Smile

3) Stop analysizing, be yourself, and let go of the outcome.

Get out of the weeds and look at the overall garden.

Viewing from the proper perspective sets you up to become the owner/master of the house... not the gardner.

HC
 

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OC Speedball said:
The girls saying it are average. (It's hard to find a true in-shape girl). Some are a tad chubby. Usually I'll just say "o rly?" and then flex my biceps or lift up my shirt, and then they usually touch me, haha.

I have been working out for 6 years, but thanks for the suggestion. I am a hard gainer, so I have trouble putting on mass. I tried to really bulk up once but I only gained a few pounds. Now I work out to stay cut. I'm in better shape than most guys.



^I'm not worried about it, but I was wondering what it meant. It's just like asking what it means when a girl says anything. Basically I'm asking for a womanspeak translation because I get it a lot, and maybe I could use it to my advantage.

Thanks for the comments guys.

people tell you you are skinny all the time and you don't know what that means? it probably means you're skinny. and yes, you are worried about it otherwise this thread i am typing in right now wouldn't exist.
 

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oxford comma said:
people tell you you are skinny all the time and you don't know what that means? it probably means you're skinny. and yes, you are worried about it otherwise this thread i am typing in right now wouldn't exist.
Cool story bro.

I already acknowledged that I am skinny. I'm not denying that.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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OC Speedball said:
The girls saying it are average. (It's hard to find a true in-shape girl). Some are a tad chubby. Usually I'll just say "o rly?" and then flex my biceps or lift up my shirt, and then they usually touch me, haha.

I have been working out for 6 years, but thanks for the suggestion. I am a hard gainer, so I have trouble putting on mass. I tried to really bulk up once but I only gained a few pounds. Now I work out to stay cut. I'm in better shape than most guys.



^I'm not worried about it, but I was wondering what it meant. It's just like asking what it means when a girl says anything. Basically I'm asking for a womanspeak translation because I get it a lot, and maybe I could use it to my advantage.

Thanks for the comments guys.
If you want to bulk up, do westside for skinny bastards. It's pretty good, because the focus is on how to become an athlete. Make sure you do the exercises right though.
 

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Cool story bro.

I already acknowledged that I am skinny. I'm not denying that.

you being skinny has nothing to do with this thread. its the fact that you are overanalyzing your interactions with women to the point where you think there's a hidden meaning in "you're so skinny". its your insecurities that will stick out like a sore thumb to women, so just make sure you have them in check brotha.
 

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Honestly I would listen to what people tell you and then analyze it to see how much truth to it there is. Many a time they don't tell you half of what they really think of you. Most guys don't hear others or just chose to ignore it, and the result is always them pondering why they aren't attracting women. Once you change for better, that's when they come clean about what they really thought of you.
 
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PapiChulo said:
Honestly I would listen to what people tell you and then analyze it to see how much truth to it there is. Many a time they don't tell you half of what they really think of you. Most guys don't hear others or just chose to ignore it, and the result is always them pondering why they aren't attracting women. Once you change for better, that's when they come clean about what they really thought of you.
If he is happy with his body and his weight then that's all that matters. Only a chump will take criticisms from overweight women and then look to beef up based on their opinions. If he wants to build muscle then I am sure he will in due course.

Only an insecure man with low self-esteem will be affected by what a woman says.
 

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How tall is the OP?

A guy of average height (or less) that is on the thin side might be called skinny. But if a guy is like 6'3", he can be skinny as a rail and women will rarely call him skinny. While you obviously can't change your height, my point is that women look at height and build before making such comments.

I'm 5'10" which is what I would call a "neutral height." Nobody will call me tall, but I would rarely be called short. Nevertheless, I have a slender build. I've always been skinny. At my age, it's probaby a good thing as a lot of older people put the pounds on.

I did have a chick call me skinny in a club once. I just took it as a sh*t test and threw it back at her.

HB: You're skinny.

Mike: Lean and mean baby.

<Makeout later on>

Anyway, I would just consider it a sh*t test and move on. With all the overwieght people out there, I don't think skinny is so bad.

You could still tone up and have a "runners" body or a "martial artists" body or just a lean dude with abs.

As for putting on weight and size, that is your business. A little of that is fine, but I always questioned if it's actually healthy for a naturally skinny guy to force his body to take on large amounts of unnecessary weight, even if it is muscle.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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