Girls make it hard to be a gentlemen these days

[Frenchconnection]

I used to open car doors and be more courteous ect. but after doing that for a while and getting nothing but sh*t. I just can't see myself genuinly doing it for chicks unless they're special and have earned it.

Sad but true..


Anybody else?

and I'm not talking about going the extra miles, just doing things as a gentlemen would do.

 

[ligyron]

You're probably doing it in a needy, low status, approval seeking kind of way, rather than just being a gentleman

My friend (the bald headed alpha) opens doors for me sometimes, and I just think, "Man, this guy is the bomb"

By the way, I think opening car doors is kind of pushing it, as it's kind of out of the way and something that's not too common in middle-class society. After all, you don't want to go too gentlemanly on people

 

[Frenchconnection]

You're probably doing it in a needy, low status, approval seeking kind of way, rather than just being a gentleman

My friend (the bald headed alpha) opens doors for me sometimes, and I just think, "Man, this guy is the bomb"

By the way, I think opening car doors is kind of pushing it, as it's kind of out of the way and something that's not too common in middle-class society. After all, you don't want to go too gentlemanly on people

Like I said, I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary. Maybe it's because I was raised in Europe.

Oh well, I'm Americanized now.

 

[Dongfu]

Yeah, the girl's gotta be speacial, or a total hooker. I love to open doors for hookers.

 

[rushing dude 123]

How about being a gentleman with other people, like maybe properly holding a door for a elderly person to get past or maybe thank the bus driver. Not specifically these things, but u get the idea. One she will see u for such a gentleman u r and 2 she will b like why isn't he like that with me. Anyway just try it and see what happens, even failure is experience, but i think it should work.

 

[sexybeast]

Yeah I feel ya... forget all that gentlemen crap... doesnt do much at all. In a way, you should treat all girls like you would treat a male mate. Do you open car doors for yours mates? Course not... let the fvcka's open it themselves. If anything open it then close it (gently) again... always funny if that suits your personallity.

 

[Maxtro]

Eh, opening and or holding doors and offering to carry stuff for them was never meant as a way to get pvssy.

I hold open doors for people because it's the kind thing to do and I don't I don't expect anything out of it. Plus it's an excuse to check out her ass as she walks bye.

 

[Ace of Flames]

Plus it's an excuse to check out her ass as she walks bye.

This is the real reason all of these gentleman customs came about. I thought everyone knew that.

 

[girl_in_a_boy_forum]

What do these girls do to you? Do they ignore you or are they rude?

I always appreciate if someone--male or female--holds a door open for me, helps me pick up something I dropped, etc. I think those are decent human things to do, and I try to do those in turn.

You could stop being kind, if people give you a negative reaction. But your actions reflect your character; what do you have to lose by being polite? Just my take, anyway.

 

[FutureSpartan]

What do these girls do to you? Do they ignore you or are they rude?

I always appreciate if someone--male or female--holds a door open for me, helps me pick up something I dropped, etc. I think those are decent human things to do, and I try to do those in turn.

You could stop being kind, if people give you a negative reaction. But your actions reflect your character; what do you have to lose by being polite? Just my take, anyway.

Word.

I do it because its a polite thing to do, not so I can expect a pat on the head. If anyone can't appreciate that, their problem, not mine.

 

[CanuckinSK]

Yeah, I hold doors open for people, maybe 40-50% of the time. Oddly enough, women under 50 (imo) are most likely NOT to thank me. Some even shoot me a dirty look. Feminists? On the rag? Who knows. It is a little embarrassing when I get these kinds of reactions, but I try to muddle through it regardless.

I will however, ALWAYS hold the door open for a date (90% of them appreciate it). At least that's how I remember it; it's been a LONG time.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Being an old world "gentleman" in these days and times is WAY overrated (outdated), kinda like tie-dyed shirts, wooden beads, afros and platform shoes (or are they coming back?). It's time for guys to update their definition of "gentlemen" and get with the times. Now I will still open a door for a woman on occasion but I expect her to do the same for me.

 

[Jukeboxhero]

. Do you open car doors for yours mates?

Actually, on occasion, YES!
Although, I do agree opening a car door is pushing it a little. Of course when it comes to opening the car door. I usually just push it open from the driver's side if I'm in a rush and doing a drive-by pickup.

However, It's a common courtesy to hold doors open for people when they're coming up right behind you in an entrance. Much better than letting the door slam in their face. I agree with Maxtro, RushingDude and ligyron. It's a good thing to do if you have the right intentions, not something to get you laid.

But again, I think this is something that you should/can do to Everyone, just to show them your a decent guy...Especially older people or people that might have a mobility handicap.

 

[iqqi]

I used to open car doors and be more courteous ect. but after doing that for a while and getting nothing but sh*t. I just can't see myself genuinly doing it for chicks unless they're special and have earned it.

I don't understand what is gentlemanly about doing gentleman things, but with expectations. A true gentleman does what he does because it is who he is.

A guy just fronting to get something from someone is a frustrated chump.

 

[Derek Flint]

Totally disagree - being a Gentleman while not being a doormat AFC is a very powerful combination.

The problem is that some girls will mistaken you for an "AFC" if you are a gentlemen, so you must balance it with letting them know up front with your actions, not your words, that you do not tolerate BS or drama.

 

[tony-montana]

if they got two hands they can open it. but i understand if someone can't open a door if they're holding a kid or whatever. i will definately hold a door open for older people who need it or if someone is right behind me. car doors... well i don't see why i should if they can do it themselves. i don't remember the last time someone opened a car door for me lol.

 

[Rudra]

The car doors concept is for helping chicks in high heels out of the car without her falling on her face. Always good to get in some kino. You stretch out your hand, not your bent forearm. In the right context, good move. But not an everyday standard

 

[Bonez]

I used to open car doors and be more courteous ect. but after doing that for a while and getting nothing but sh*t. I just can't see myself genuinly doing it for chicks unless they're special and have earned it.

Sad but true..


Anybody else?

and I'm not talking about going the extra miles, just doing things as a gentlemen would do.

You know the real reason for doing that stuff?

Probably not, so why do you even do it?

It was never intended to be done, just to be done. It wasn't a message to the girl EVER. In private its only practice, but IN PUBLIC its a sign. When you open a door for a woman your showing everybody else how much SHE is worth. Its like the red carpet treatment, like royalty. Show everybody how great the girl is, and they'll see you as being worthy of HAVING HER.

Some girls HATE the prospect of being put in that limelight. Of having to be considered proper to have value, some women choose to be of value in their own efforts, to their friends and family, to their jobs, and not of their social status.

Just a little history lesson for you. If you've understood your readings on seduction you should understand the OLD advice of being up to date with current events, and having some brains.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Don't, under any circumstances, compromise yourself for what anyone else believes. If it makes you feel good to open a door for someone or say Yes sir or yes Maam then fvcking do it. True most women do not appreciate kindness because they have no point of reference.

In our Mtv-dumbed down way of life it's increasingly difficult to find men (like some of us) who don't compromise our position based on what society or even what women think.

If you open a door for someone and they don't reciprocate with even a thank you or a nod they're ignorant and should be discarded as such.

 

[KarmaSutra]

You know the real reason for doing that stuff?

Probably not, so why do you even do it?

It was never intended to be done, just to be done. It wasn't a message to the girl EVER. In private its only practice, but IN PUBLIC its a sign. When you open a door for a woman your showing everybody else how much SHE is worth. Its like the red carpet treatment, like royalty. Show everybody how great the girl is, and they'll see you as being worthy of HAVING HER.

Some girls HATE the prospect of being put in that limelight. Of having to be considered proper to have value, some women choose to be of value in their own efforts, to their friends and family, to their jobs, and not of their social status.

Just a little history lesson for you. If you've understood your readings on seduction you should understand the OLD advice of being up to date with current events, and having some brains.

I would expect this fvcking garbage from LMS or 'Cisco. Some guys in thier forties and older think they're owed something because they've been around a few extra decades. Problem is it only gets them closer to Geritol iv's and bedpans.

Being gentlemanly has nothing to do with getting her approval or attention. It's about having principles which you adhere to no matter what the situation.