"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girls lie when they say they have a bf

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This is the most common response I get when I ask a girl out or try to get her number, along with "I don't know you." See my other thread.

I know this is a common **** test, but there are so many different answers on how to handle this.

Please feel free to post threads where this question has already been answered.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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“I have a boyfriend” is usually rejection. Girls lie about having a boyfriend (or tell you the truth) when they don’t want you and lie about being single when they do. Sometimes, though, it’s the anti-slut defense, so you hang back and chill for a ‘minute,’ then try to escalate again. You don’t care.
 

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Just have fun with it.

Sometimes I say:
"Too bad , our kids would've been so cool."
or
"Oh God...I'm so sorry to hear that. Have you had that problem for long ?"
or
"Woah...you just met me and you're already calling me your boyfriend ?We need to slow down a bit"
or
"When is his birthday ?" - Usually when people lie , it's very easy to catch them offguard by asking a specific detail. If she's lieing ,she'll panic and it will be very obvious. And awkward for her. I find that funny.
or
"Since we're talking about things we can cheat on , I got a math exam tomorrow"

As long as you don't take rejection personally or like a huge ego-shot , you can reply with humor. That way , at least you'll be having fun.
 

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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"You all have boyfriends", as Vitaly would say.
 

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What if it's delayed and mentioned in casual conversation, like maybe the third or fourth time you talk to the girl? Should it just be ignored?
 

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If she's using it as a rejection, you've either done something wrong or gotta hustle over that ****.

BUT IF she just mentions she has a boyfriend, understand that could mean anything. Maybe you'll find out her bf is a cuck and wants to watch you **** his girlfriend @_@
 

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I am always hesitant about women with boyfriends or who are "seeing somebody."

In the past even when they mention someone else, I will still do my thing and try to get something out of them. The last girl who I pushed forward with made out with me then went back to her boyfriend. They broke up real recently but she just avoids me now.

My point is that if I just stayed back I probably could have gotten more than a make out session with her, so I never know if I should just push forward, give them a LJBF speech, or just ignore it entirely. My current plan, if I ask a girl out and she says she has a boyfriend, is to somehow flip it on the girl like she's coming onto me and give her a LJBF speech. I'm just wondering if that would backfire since I've yet to try.

To comment on OP, when a girl brings up a boyfriend I usually just ignore it entirely. I think the best way to handle it is whatever jives with your personality. I really wouldn't say something like "well I have a goldfish" because that just isn't me. I would just ignore it/walk away. Do what you're comfortable with.


Not meaning to threadjack but it's all related.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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you're not being chill enough with them. Lean back a little more and give them space. If they still give you the bf excuse, relax a little more.
 

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Women converse covertly, instead of saying "no thanks" they will reject you with a subtle line like that.
 

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andersonsmith969 said:
This is the most common response I get when I ask a girl out or try to get her number, along with "I don't know you." See my other thread.

I know this is a common **** test, but there are so many different answers on how to handle this.

Please feel free to post threads where this question has already been answered.

Too much reading into things. It is not a sh1t test. You didn't pass the initial physical attraction required to make her tingle, plain and simple. I guarantee you that a girl who thinks you're hot would never make up a pretend boyfriend as a sh1t test. She wouldn't want to risk you nexting her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So y'all recommend funny lines, but realistically, once a girl rejects you is there anything you can do?

I know boyfriend is code, but the fact that so many girls tell me this made me wonder if a lot of them really did have boyfriends....

Not a single one of them has ever been honest and said "im not into you" or something like that.
 

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Marker said:
I am always hesitant about women with boyfriends or who are "seeing somebody."
If they say - "I have boyfriend"...I bolt. I don't even bother. Boyfriends are guys that have been around for 2 or 3 months tops and have been exclusive to them.

"Seeing Somebody" could mean two to three plus dates where they go to dinner and hang out...but it's basically not exclusive crap and they are not a couple. This is a sh!t test. Girls will say this to you to make you work harder, make you jealous, and hint towards a chase depending on the situation.

I've posed this question to several past exes...it's basically just dating.
 

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I agree. When a woman tells you she has a boyfriend you can definitely take that as a rejection. Because when they REALLY have a boyfriend, they usually don't tell you. Unless he's actually there.

So it's in your best interest to ignore the words and focus on her body language.
 

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IHAB is just a rejection. She's just not that into you. Would she tell Brad Pitt that she has a boyfriend? I think not.

Get equipped with that fact.
 
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