"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and *****ing about what *******s guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl's every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they're at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn't worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in Halo2 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing *serious* between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: "oh, but we're just friends!" And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.

The nice guys don't often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don't seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can't. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative *****es. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as "oh, he's too nice to date" or "he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me" or "he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn't possibly ask him out!" or the most frustrating of all: "no, it would ruin our friendship." Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can't figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I'm going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn't last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you're sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lol, I haven't read that ever.

Thanks, it was it brought tears to my eyes =)
 

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I don't buy it.

I'm often told that I'm one of *those* nice guys. HB's that I like are often warm and receptive, but try to avoid serious things because they hold all the power. I hate to say, but for the most part it got me nowhere. I'd get interest, but not from the HB's I was really after.

The blog claims 'vindication' will come sooner or later. From where, and how? HB's will take those kind AFCs into there arms and praise their dogged perserverance and commitment to the convivial and safe? I don't think so. Unless this 'vindication' is a helpful hand that guides them to the DJ resources.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by john_1234
so this exact same blog was posted before?
Yeah. Basically the blogger has just plagiarised a piece that's been doing the rounds for ages.

And it's just as big a lie today as it was when it was first penned.
 

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"The nice guys don't often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don't seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can't."

I can explain it. Its not about "Nice" guys. Instead its guys who are AFC suckers that are more like pets than men. Guys who are treated like ****. Men who are door mates. Men who are a complete disgrace to the male population. Tribute......bah....losers.

Men are the dominate out the 2. Thats why these losers get none.

(Sorry if i have insulted any AFC's on this forum but the above is the truth in relation to this article.)
 

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Sam21, John1234, It's easy to recognize who the AFC's are in this thread;) Sad thing is, you two are also the most respectful:)

The thing with girls (and guys) is that they don't want to POISON the minds of the innocent. It's pretty sad if you ask me, and one of the HARDEST things to accomplish teaching.

SoSuave is a prodigy among teaching social beliefs. Not since the BIBLE have I been so entranced with a single society, and KNEW it was 100% correct. There are multitudes of people that traverse these pages, lurk in the shadows, and spy on the underlying teachings through obscure methods. Some understand, some are fearful, others adamant, and some are just not interested...

I'm sorry for laughing at everybody else who posted on this thread so far. You are all stupid though, disrespectful, and ruthless. Be ashamed of yourselves, hang your head low. For the sake of other men, your brethren, your blood kin, how could you insult them so harshly? You insult their intelligence, and their perseverence, than you turn around and give eachother high fives. You are the disgraceful ones out there, the guys who hate the underdog.

Sure this topic has floundered many times on the internet, brought a tear to those who believe in good, bought incestful hatred from tripped out perverts, but it has always been true.

I give equal tribute to all the nice guys out there. I recognize your plight, and I am fighting as well. There has never been a door I have not held open, not a time I didn't notice the unkeen stares. I salute you, best of luck to reaching your dreams.
 

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Girls only want a nice guy when:

They get too old to compete with yonger hotter chicks for the "bad boys"

Their clock starts ticking and they want to settle down and have children

They are sick of getting abused by jerks

So basically nice guys are a last resort

I say F em all and save 1 or 2 for breeding
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
Sam21, John1234, It's easy to recognize who the AFC's are in this thread;) Sad thing is, you two are also the most respectful:)

The thing with girls (and guys) is that they don't want to POISON the minds of the innocent. It's pretty sad if you ask me, and one of the HARDEST things to accomplish teaching.

SoSuave is a prodigy among teaching social beliefs. Not since the BIBLE have I been so entranced with a single society, and KNEW it was 100% correct. There are multitudes of people that traverse these pages, lurk in the shadows, and spy on the underlying teachings through obscure methods. Some understand, some are fearful, others adamant, and some are just not interested...

I'm sorry for laughing at everybody else who posted on this thread so far. You are all stupid though, disrespectful, and ruthless. Be ashamed of yourselves, hang your head low. For the sake of other men, your brethren, your blood kin, how could you insult them so harshly? You insult their intelligence, and their perseverence, than you turn around and give eachother high fives. You are the disgraceful ones out there, the guys who hate the underdog.

Sure this topic has floundered many times on the internet, brought a tear to those who believe in good, bought incestful hatred from tripped out perverts, but it has always been true.

I give equal tribute to all the nice guys out there. I recognize your plight, and I am fighting as well. There has never been a door I have not held open, not a time I didn't notice the unkeen stares. I salute you, best of luck to reaching your dreams.
If this was an ideal world, I would have approved this post. My friend, for just a second look down at us from your dreamy cloud and realize that life is nothing else that a fight for supremacy. In every single aspect: from psychology, to social dynamics, to deontology... et cetera et cetera. Mating does not make an exception.

By the way I take pride in opening doors and kissing hands while saying 'Enchanté' when I meet women. But I don't believe for a second that kindness is getting me laid. Confidence does it, as well as a bit of arrogance and a big ego.
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
If this was an ideal world, I would have approved this post. My friend, for just a second look down at us from your dreamy cloud and realize that life is nothing else that a fight for supremacy. In every single aspect: from psychology, to social dynamics, to deontology... et cetera et cetera. Mating does not make an exception.

By the way I take pride in opening doors and kissing hands while saying 'Enchanté' when I meet women. But I don't believe for a second that kindness is getting me laid. Confidence does it, as well as a bit of arrogance and a big ego.
Well I didn't expect to get that type of response right away:D
Thx Aero:cheer:

Deontology, is a new subject to me, this is the first I ever heard of it. As far as I know, people respect eachother in those same terms, for a long time now. They subject themselves to different methods, and avoid people if they do not WANT to follow the principles of that theory.

I avoid AFC's if they get on my nerves, I respect their claims of peace. Thought there are others, who believe that masculinity is more in line with reality, so I give them a harder time. Sometimes people are simply confused, many women are, as are men, and in seduction, I play the role of leadership. I have conciously viewed seduction in-line with subtle leadership.

What I posted is true to my being. There weren't any lies:) The AFC's want peace, and they expect people to share the PEACE back with them. I feel sad that they don't express their true desires, or make any attempt at making any real changes...

If I had to make a single line as an argument as to what gets me laid now, compared to when I was an AFC...

"Don't lie to yourself"
 
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