"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Girls in driving school rejected me

nesblu

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For the past 2 weeks I've been wanting to approach this cute girl in my class. Fact is she is always with her friends and I've never done pick up so I knew it would be a bad idea.

So today I finally approached not only her but also 3 others girls. Needless to say I got rejected, which sucks considering I have to be in class with them. When I approached, I tryed to be funny and said, "Hey I'm ..., do you know bejamin franklin? He once said "Lifes a ***** and then you die", "So why shouldn't I approach these cute girls". One even asked me if that was a pick up line. I made some small talk and even tried to be somewhat humurous but they didn't respond. They weren't being receptive and seemed to be offset from me. I asked them why one said it was strange I was introducing myself after two weeks of driving school and not on the first day, and another said that she wasn't expecting this. So i just excused myself and went back to my friends.

It sucks because the next 2 days I have to be in driving school with a bunch of girls who think I'm a weird creep. What could I do or have done differently, to maybe elicit some attraction/rapport from these girls?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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zekko

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When you approach a girl, it's not a good idea to open her by talking about approaching. You shoud go up to talk and get to know them rather than talking about pickup.

Waiting for two weeks to get your nerve up is bound to make you come off as more nervous and unnatural. That's what the three second rule is about.

First impressions are important. You had been there for two weeks and they had already formed some sort of impression of you. Maybe as the quiet kid, I don't know. Definitely not as the cool, friendly guy they talked to in class.

That said, you're young, you're learning, you've got plenty of time to straighten this out. If you keep approaching, you'll learn to get smoother. If I were you I'd continue to talk them here and there. Not to pick them up, but just to be friendly and for practice. Forget this situation, be friendly, and chances are they will forget about any awkwardness. You know them now, so you should be able to talk to them.

The above may not help you pick them up, but sometimes you have to walk before you can run.
 

xdreamz

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way too contrived man lol.. don't come off as a seducer in the beginning, he's right. the beginning of the interaction usually fortells the quality of the whole interaction in my opinion. putting it off till 2 weeks to meet her after means she will put you off for 2 weeks after meeting you.
 

DJDamage

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zekko said:
First impressions are important. You had been there for two weeks and they had already formed some sort of impression of you. Maybe as the quiet kid, I don't know. Definitely not as the cool, friendly guy they talked to in class.
Agreed. Whatever you say something or not say something people especially women will judge you. Therefore you should make it a habit to be friendly with everyone you meet from the get go. A simple friendly confident greeting with a genuine smile and eye contact "hey how you doing?!" will do wonders in establishing a future rapport with a woman.
 

irocknike23

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dude thats the worst pickup line I ever heard you deserve to get rejected...


i dont get why guys use pick up lines....whats wrong with "hey watsup im ______,aren't you in my _________class"?

thats a good way to start off a convo IMO
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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