playerone
Senior Don Juan
I know the fact that women are illogical beings, as compared to men. I want to look deeper into this, and understand it to use it to my advantage. Are there any good examples of how women are illogical?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girls = Illogical
- Thread starter playerone
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Bloke
Senior Don Juan
No = Yes.
WaterTiger
Master Don Juan
How are girls illogical? Like when:
We say we want a "sweet guy" and end up falling for a biker dude.
We put on 20 pounds of make-up so we can look like "natural beauty".
We dress really hot and complain guys are staring at us.
We work out like crazy and eat plain lettuce all day so we can go out for dinner & have dessert.
We pay off our VISA bill with our Master Card.
...shall I keep going, or do you get the idea????
We say we want a "sweet guy" and end up falling for a biker dude.
We put on 20 pounds of make-up so we can look like "natural beauty".
We dress really hot and complain guys are staring at us.
We work out like crazy and eat plain lettuce all day so we can go out for dinner & have dessert.
We pay off our VISA bill with our Master Card.
...shall I keep going, or do you get the idea????
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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Them folk ****ed up. Big deal!
playerone
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Lol. Those are the general ones, i'm looking for more in-depth stuff which i'm sure any experienced DJ can tell me.
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Estrogen inhibits logical though process mainly to allow unconditional love of children and to allow moments of weakness that lead "to sex when she should not do it" to keep the jean pool diverse..
bigjohnson
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In other news testosterone causes people to misspell simple words like gene.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
The Feminine Mystique
Perhaps the single most useful tool women have possessed for centuries is their unknowablity. I made that word up, but it's applicable; women for hundreds of years have cultivated this sense of being unknowable, random, illogical or in worse case fickle or ambiguous. This is the feminine mystique and it goes hand in hand with the feminine prerogative - a woman always reserves the right to change her mind. While a Man must never be anything less than forthright and resolute - say what you mean, mean what you say - women are rewarded and reinforced for being elusive and dare I say, seemingly irrational. In fact, if done with the right art, it's this elusiveness that makes her more desirable. However, to pull this off she must be (or seem to be) unknowable, and encourage men to believe so -which you apparently do.
On this forum we strive to breakdown confusion and common problems by observing behavior, and we all know that women are human beings with the same basic motivations that men are subject to with some variation in their reasoning and methodologies. The point being that women are every bit as subject to being as mundane as men are, but the difference is that men don't enjoy a masculine mystique. With rare exceptions, we don't generally cultivate this sense of mystery because we're not rewarded for it as women are - and honestly, we haven't needed to. But for a woman, if she can cultivate this mystique, her attentions become a reward unto themselves for the guy who is lucky enough to tame her.
Rest assured, when you think a woman is crazy, she's crazy like a fox; she's crazy with a reason. Women are every bit as calculating as men, in fact more so I'd argue because they have the mystique to hide a multitude of sins. They're not irrational, they're calculated - you just have to develop an ability to read a woman's actions and behaviors and see the plan behind them.
Perhaps the single most useful tool women have possessed for centuries is their unknowablity. I made that word up, but it's applicable; women for hundreds of years have cultivated this sense of being unknowable, random, illogical or in worse case fickle or ambiguous. This is the feminine mystique and it goes hand in hand with the feminine prerogative - a woman always reserves the right to change her mind. While a Man must never be anything less than forthright and resolute - say what you mean, mean what you say - women are rewarded and reinforced for being elusive and dare I say, seemingly irrational. In fact, if done with the right art, it's this elusiveness that makes her more desirable. However, to pull this off she must be (or seem to be) unknowable, and encourage men to believe so -which you apparently do.
On this forum we strive to breakdown confusion and common problems by observing behavior, and we all know that women are human beings with the same basic motivations that men are subject to with some variation in their reasoning and methodologies. The point being that women are every bit as subject to being as mundane as men are, but the difference is that men don't enjoy a masculine mystique. With rare exceptions, we don't generally cultivate this sense of mystery because we're not rewarded for it as women are - and honestly, we haven't needed to. But for a woman, if she can cultivate this mystique, her attentions become a reward unto themselves for the guy who is lucky enough to tame her.
Rest assured, when you think a woman is crazy, she's crazy like a fox; she's crazy with a reason. Women are every bit as calculating as men, in fact more so I'd argue because they have the mystique to hide a multitude of sins. They're not irrational, they're calculated - you just have to develop an ability to read a woman's actions and behaviors and see the plan behind them.
Women aren't illogical. You just aren't logical enough to separate her behavior from words and analyze it properly.
She flaked on you 3 times and every time she had an excuse. It's not that she is being illogical, it's that you're missing the fact that her behavior (which is her flaking on you 3 times) is telling you that she is never going to bone you ever in this lifetime.
She flaked on you 3 times and every time she had an excuse. It's not that she is being illogical, it's that you're missing the fact that her behavior (which is her flaking on you 3 times) is telling you that she is never going to bone you ever in this lifetime.
playerone
Senior Don Juan
So in other words, timing is important when you want to advance with women?trd323 said:
playerone
Senior Don Juan
I guess i got all my answers there. :rockon:Desdinova said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.