Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Girls has an off and on LTR

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Girl has a off and on LTR

Well after one of my many talks with this girl in my math class I learned that she has an off and on relationship with this guy that has lasted two years. The last time we talked before today was Friday the 21st and she referred to him as her ex and apparently they are back together now as of 9/26

Is there any way to capitalize on this situation? Me and her have gotten pretty friendly and she would be right for the pickings if it wasn't for the other dude. Apparently they've been together long enough for him to be almost considered part of her family. But I know that doesn't mean that much. My female cousin brought her boyfriend over to several of the family parties and he was kind of part of the family but they broke up and I never saw him again. BTW both the girl and I come from Hispanic cultures. So I can figure out what is going on with her family.

Should I try to get her to leave him or make her like me more so she would have more interest in me than him?

Any way to snag her without having to wait for them to be off again or is there a way to use a "break up" to my advantage?
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Women: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems
Do you believe that?
 

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Doesn't sound like its worth the hassle. You'd probably have a pissed off bf/ex in your face before long. Plus, she sounds like a flake. If she can't either break it off or stay together with him permanently, then something is wrong.

I'd move on.
 

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ligyron said:
Do you believe that?
Most of the time yes, but it basically depends on my mood.

Ace of Flames said:
Doesn't sound like its worth the hassle. You'd probably have a pissed off bf/ex in your face before long. Plus, she sounds like a flake. If she can't either break it off or stay together with him permanently, then something is wrong.

I'd move on.
Moving on seems like it's the best thing to do but it's the last thing I want to do. Unfortunately this situation where the girl has a boyfriend keeps popping up so often in my life it's insane.

My current philosophy in life is that there are no attractive single girls. They are all in a relationship of some form and they are always looking for a guy better than the one they are with. If they are single they will probably be single for less than a week.

I hope I'm wrong but I've found no evidence to the contrary.

What I need to do is position myself so that I can grab her on the small window of time where she is available. I'm currently not looking for a LTR since I may be moving to SoCal in a few months so all I want now is some fun until then.
 

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Maxtro said:
Moving on seems like it's the best thing to do but it's the last thing I want to do. Unfortunately this situation where the girl has a boyfriend keeps popping up so often in my life it's insane.

My current philosophy in life is that there are no attractive single girls. They are all in a relationship of some form and they are always looking for a guy better than the one they are with. If they are single they will probably be single for less than a week.

I hope I'm wrong but I've found no evidence to the contrary.

What I need to do is position myself so that I can grab her on the small window of time where she is available. I'm currently not looking for a LTR since I may be moving to SoCal in a few months so all I want now is some fun until then.
I know its hard to go against how you feel, but sometimes you have to. :(

I completely agree with your philosophy. Its true. Women will stick with a guy for as long as possible, even if they don't like him. At least they can drain his bank account. What they do is, they sit and wait for a better man to come along. They're always holding on to one man or the other, and they never let go to stay single for a second. That's why I hear "I have a boyfriend" and just say "So?".

I still say this girl isn't really worth the trouble. If all you want is a little fun, why bother waiting for her to be "off again" with her guy? Just get what you want.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Well I rather not wait for her to be off with him hell I would love to bang her on Friday but I know that will most definitely not happen. I just don't know what do or say about her situation that will get her more into me.

I don't know if I should ask more probing questions into her relationship or completely ignore the issue entirely. For example not caring that she has a "bf" and just invite her to lunch or coffee.

For me I'm kind of looking at this like it is a science experiment with a nice reward if things go correctly. All of this stuff is mostly new to me and it's all a learning experience.

Her comfort level with me is good and now I just need to work on the attraction. I've actually been in this type of situation with girls before, were we went to lunch together, went to malls and shopping for my clothes, and watched movies. Oddly enough these girls had "boyfriends" but they did those things with me. My fault though was that I didn't attempt to make a move on them therefore nothing never happened.
 

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Giving this a bump to see if I can get any replies.

I feel that I can be close to getting her but I know I can quickly ruin any chance with her I may have had.
 

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No boyfriends / seeing someone in the background period...plenty of free, available and willing women around, move on.
 
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