"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girls Flaking.. how to deal with it..?

zzeitgeist

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I am kind of in a sad state in my life right now when it comes to women... I have everything else going for me at the moment(great job, new car, best shape of my life) but I just keep having girls flake out lately despite initial enthusiasm, sometimes they will SUGGEST hanging out to which I'll agree and then they will end out flaking out.

These are younger girls mostly so its rather expected but still I am so tired of girls wanting to hang out then last minute deciding not to, then when I consider that a low indicators of interest and try to forget about them they'll come message me about how we need to do something soon... like wtf? This is really starting to test my patience...

Do I bother with these chicks? Are they just stringing me along? Should I just tell them to stop wasting my time?

For exmaple, i just had a girl post on my facebook about how we should go out to an amusement park, I kinda fancy this girl but shes flaked on me in the past, always coming up with some retarded excuse. So next day I reply to her and say "hey lets chill this weekend, let me know if your down"(after she suggested we hang out).

She goes and replies with how her best friend is leaving this weekend so shes spending the weekend with her......... I almost predicted that BS answer before it came, but as if that wasn't enough she ended the message with "How about next weekend?"... like WTF.. do you want to hang out or not? Anyway i haven't answered her yet and I just want to tell her to shove it up her ass already, but dont know if thats the right approach lol..

How do you deal with these girls? Thoughts?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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zzeitgeist said:
I am kind of in a sad state in my life right now when it comes to women... I have everything else going for me at the moment(great job, new car, best shape of my life) but I just keep having girls flake out lately despite initial enthusiasm, sometimes they will SUGGEST hanging out to which I'll agree and then they will end out flaking out.

These are younger girls mostly so its rather expected but still I am so tired of girls wanting to hang out then last minute deciding not to, then when I consider that a low indicators of interest and try to forget about them they'll come message me about how we need to do something soon... like wtf? This is really starting to test my patience...

Do I bother with these chicks? Are they just stringing me along? Should I just tell them to stop wasting my time?

For exmaple, i just had a girl post on my facebook about how we should go out to an amusement park, I kinda fancy this girl but shes flaked on me in the past, always coming up with some retarded excuse. So next day I reply to her and say "hey lets chill this weekend, let me know if your down"(after she suggested we hang out).

She goes and replies with how her best friend is leaving this weekend so shes spending the weekend with her......... I almost predicted that BS answer before it came, but as if that wasn't enough she ended the message with "How about next weekend?"... like WTF.. do you want to hang out or not? Anyway i haven't answered her yet and I just want to tell her to shove it up her ass already, but dont know if thats the right approach lol..

How do you deal with these girls? Thoughts?
There another thread about flaking you should look at.

As for yourself, you need to find out what you're doing wrong? How badly do you want these girls?

Also the girl suggested to hang out with you next week so why get angry or tell her to shove it up her ass? If you react like that it tells her it's a big deal for you which will creep her out.
 

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I want them, but I am not going crazy for them and I simply want to cut through the BS and find out if their sincere or not..

I suppose my question is do you keep saying OK to her if she reschedules, especially once shes done this more than once. I just feel like this chick thinks she can get me anytime she wants. The truth is I just want to get to know her better but I know my value is 10x higher than hers, not just cause that is my mentality but because its the truth.

So I dunno, maybe its the fact these girls are all fairly young (18, 19) and are still living under parents roof with no car which does put a little more restriction on their lives or they get some sort of powertrip by saying "lets do something" then rescheduling/flaking.
 

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zzeitgeist said:
I want them, but I am not going crazy for them and I simply want to cut through the BS and find out if their sincere or not..

I suppose my question is do you keep saying OK to her if she reschedules, especially once shes done this more than once. I just feel like this chick thinks she can get me anytime she wants. The truth is I just want to get to know her better but I know my value is 10x higher than hers, not just cause that is my mentality but because its the truth.

So I dunno, maybe its the fact these girls are all fairly young (18, 19) and are still living under parents roof with no car which does put a little more restriction on their lives or they get some sort of powertrip by saying "lets do something" then rescheduling/flaking.
Simply let them know you can meet up with them IF YOU have time. Let them know that your time is valuable and you're doing them a favour by meeting them.

If they are interested they won't flake.



PS You might think you have a higher value mindset but if you did you wouldn't get upset because of some girl flaking on you.
 
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