girls don't make eye contact with me! new to game

[hereoftheday90]

i just came across seduction sites recently and i have been trying to make it work for myself. i am still in highschool but have been applying some techniques. i've been trying to make eye contact but it hardly works! most of the time girls just look away once we make eye contact. i don't think i'm movie star but not ugly either as i've seen much much worse so i don't get it.

also in this scenario was this girl into me; i was waiting for the train for school today when i saw a girl further down from me who was cute. i looked at her and she looked at me but then looked away. i thought then she wasn't into me but a while later she came down and stood right next to me against the wall i was leaning to. i didn't say anything but i am stil leaning to seize opportunity

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

I don't recal having a problem like that but, they say... Some girls cant look a man in his eyes if he's too good looking. I've had girls tell me they met some hot guy and couldnt maintain eye contact. So, thats the reason or something else.

 

[hereoftheday90]

i have considered that, but how do you know if that is the case or not? i mean, i do get girls that will smile sometimes, but those are rare. i mostly get either a we lock eyes and she looks away or she just doesn't even look at me at all----> that's usaully the type that is out of my league though and i realize the super hot one's i don't really have a chance with in my current state.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Does she do anything after she looks away? Like play with her hair?

 

[collegeEJ]

Don't sweat it man.

Everybody is completely different. Don't put all girls in one category.

There are some that won't maintain eye contact because they are intimidated at looking people in the eyes. Some because they are repulsed by the way you look. Some because they are in a bad mood. Some because they feel inferior to you. You get my drift.

Then some will give you eye contact and smile because they feel sorry for you, because they think you look good, or because they are just friendly.

Just remember to be interested in others and be warm. When you do this, you will draw in others and not worry so much.

 

[mahon83050]

I heard if you make eye contact and then she looks down and away (in a shy way) that is a good sign.

Playing with hair (nervousness) if another good sign.

Arms crossed (unless she is cold) is a BAD sign.

 

[hereoftheday90]

well, it depends. from what i have seen in the few weeks i have been testing this out, here is what i've gotten: sometimes the girls will look down, that happens a couple of times. playing with hair...sometimes as i'm walking and i see a girl i like i will look at her in the eyes and she will usaully break eye contact and touch/brush her hair or something and make eye contact again, though usaully they just touch their hair and look past me after the initial eye contact. i don't really know whether to put in much stock into this though because when i see that i will usaully look at her as she's walking and they don't usaully look back - i read they do that somewhere?

I do have to work on my smiling though as i usaully have a neutral expression

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

I wouldn't worry about it at all. But, it does seem the girls think your "attractive" from some of their actions.

 

[Crazy Asian]

yeah i'm in hs too, and about 80% of the girls don't even look at you.

it's just "normal" to not look into other people's eyes unless you try to condition yourself to it.

 

[hereoftheday90]

i'm grateful for your replies and advice guys. believe me, i know i need more work and i have to approach anyway, but i'm just starting off and want a general idea as to what to look for so i can be successful. i do want to get better.

 

[mahon83050]

well, it depends. from what i have seen in the few weeks i have been testing this out, here is what i've gotten: sometimes the girls will look down, that happens a couple of times. playing with hair...sometimes as i'm walking and i see a girl i like i will look at her in the eyes and she will usaully break eye contact and touch/brush her hair or something and make eye contact again, though usaully they just touch their hair and look past me after the initial eye contact. i don't really know whether to put in much stock into this though because when i see that i will usaully look at her as she's walking and they don't usaully look back - i read they do that somewhere?

I do have to work on my smiling though as i usaully have a neutral expression

Do any of these girls smile at you? Unless they are working in a customer service position, a smile is ALWAYS a GREEN LIGHT.

Take it from a 30 year old. Girls aged 16-22 or so are at THEIR PEAK of physical attractiveness. They have perfect skin and practically zero body fat. Don't make the same mistake I did and get infatuated with ONE chick and lack the balls to talk to any others. I did not kiss a girl until I was 19.

 

[Stuntmann]

Bad sign. Negative IOI, or anti approach invitation.


Right away they'd know if they want to know you, or not. They put you into that average basket in a split second.


What gives? Why they not interested? It's not your looks, or your clothes, or even what you say. A major part is the way you carry yourself, confidence is projected from mile away.


It's inside of you.


Working out helps a lot. It builds your confidence and makes you magnetic. Incorporating alpha male everything into your life also makes you magnetic. With enough magnetism they have no choice but to send you those IOIs.


If you can get your hands on David DeAngelo DVD or VHS.

 

[SaucyBoy]

I'd say you haven't made a mistake if there was something that made you uncomfortable. You just got to know what is doing it. Is it her, or just your AA?

I've often not spoken up since I had a gut feeling that something was up, wrong or I could not follow through.

You have to re-examine the situation and learn from it. Never think "I blew it" unless you don't learn from it. Learn how to read women. It's not easy for most of us.

 

[hereoftheday90]

Do any of these girls smile at you? Unless they are working in a customer service position, a smile is ALWAYS a GREEN LIGHT.

Take it from a 30 year old. Girls aged 16-22 or so are at THEIR PEAK of physical attractiveness. They have perfect skin and practically zero body fat. Don't make the same mistake I did and get infatuated with ONE chick and lack the balls to talk to any others. I did not kiss a girl until I was 19.

most of the time, no. i get it once in a while, but usaully the women just touch their hair when we make eye contact and look away as they pass. if they smiled it would put me at ease, but in my experience that usaully doesn't happen.

I have seen girls that have hung around me that liked me before and hoped I would talk to them, but as far as smiling, no, not too much but then again i've really only been paying attention recently

 

[ligyron]

i used to be the first to break eye contact, then i thought why the hell should i be the one to always break it? so now i keep it until they look away (with some respected social exceptions of course)

you say you're an average looking guy, so there could be something wrong with your body language. you should be walking by confidently like you're actually headed somewhere and your default look is probably a slight smile/smirk, so you just look at her walking by until she breaks eye contact or until you've turned your head no more than 2 inches or so and keep going. or you can be cool and actually talk to her if she seems interested/worth your while

 

[hereoftheday90]

i used to be the first to break eye contact, then i thought why the hell should i be the one to always break it? so now i keep it until they look away (with some respected social exceptions of course)

you say you're an average looking guy, so there could be something wrong with your body language. you should be walking by confidently like you're actually headed somewhere and your default look is probably a slight smile/smirk, so you just look at her walking by until she breaks eye contact or until you've turned your head no more than 2 inches or so and keep going. or you can be cool and actually talk to her if she seems interested/worth your while

Now that you mention it...it's probably very much the latter. I hae had girls tell me i'm good looking and even approach me so I know I am not ugly or anything. If anything I could use some muscle as i'm a bit slender and that probably hurts me with the paticularly hot one's, but I think I'm generally ok...I have seen much worse then me score fine ass so it's possible. But most likely, maybe it's my body language...I know I do feel slightly insecure around really attractive women and girls I generally like.

 

[Being_the_Don]

well, it depends. from what i have seen in the few weeks i have been testing this out, here is what i've gotten: sometimes the girls will look down, that happens a couple of times. playing with hair...sometimes as i'm walking and i see a girl i like i will look at her in the eyes and she will usaully break eye contact and touch/brush her hair or something and make eye contact again, though usaully they just touch their hair and look past me after the initial eye contact. i don't really know whether to put in much stock into this though because when i see that i will usaully look at her as she's walking and they don't usaully look back - i read they do that somewhere?

I do have to work on my smiling though as i usaully have a neutral expression

Are you saying that as you're walking past a girl she touches her hair? That is generally a sign of interest. Sometimes the woman won't even make eye contact with the approaching guy even though she'll quickly touch her hair. She's noticed the guy, though, and the hair touching is a sign of acknowledgement/interest.

 

[hereoftheday90]

Are you saying that as you're walking past a girl she touches her hair? That is generally a sign of interest. Sometimes the woman won't even make eye contact with the approaching guy even though she'll quickly touch her hair. She's noticed the guy, though, and the hair touching is a sign of acknowledgement/interest.

generally. normally i check out the woman from a distance as were walking towards one another. as we get closer i try to lock eyes with her and normally when that happens she breaks eye contact (though sometimes i thought they weren't looking at me to begin with at least once close anyway) and starts messing with her hair and whatn ot as she passes. sometimes she will smooth her shirt or something but i found that happens less, it's generally the hair. i always thought that was kind of weird because it happened more then once and i figured it couldn't of been a coincidence, but i have up until now been the type of guy who only believes it's true if the proof is undeniable like a smile or something rather then subtle. cause it seems girls are always putting their stupid hands on their hair and touching it, but it was weird how it happened once we made eye contact or shortly after.

 

[CanuckinSK]

I do have to work on my smiling though as i usaully have a neutral expression

I'm guilty of the same thing. If you make EC with them without smiling, some may take it as being stand-offish, arrogant, or creepy.

 

[SaucyBoy]

Just look at the nice ones and smile. All of them. Except the ones with a gang member. Or the ones that are gang members. Unless that's your thing.

Make your your smile is broad and friendly. Some men have a goofy look when they smile. What you don't want is them smiling because they find you FUNNY and they are laughing AT YOU. You won't be able to tell the difference and that is a KILLER. Smile with your eyes. The eyes are important to women. Don't just grin.

Sounds a bit weird but try smiling in front of the mirror before you go out. See if there is anything on your teeth. Once I had a peppercorn in there and as you know they are black. OUCH. Didn't know.

Another thing is breath. Wow. Even some women I find very attractive have a stink like s!hit. Think about what that does to your approach. Carry tic-tacs with you. Be sure you don't have it in your mouth when talking.

You'd be surprised how many f!uc!ked up approaches there are because of this. Sounds obvious, but that corned beef sandwich might be your worst enemy.