Think about it. Before cell phones came into vogue 10 years ago, people answered the phone whenever it rang. So if you call the girl's house, she picks up and actually has to talk to the guy. None of this cold-shoulder crap.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Girls didn't used to be able to do "no contact"
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Guys can do the same thing these days. I do it all the time if I don't recognize the number, or even if I do sometimes I just don't feel like talking on the phone. It's not just the ladies.Darth said:Think about it. Before cell phones came into vogue 10 years ago, people answered the phone whenever it rang. So if you call the girl's house, she picks up and actually has to talk to the guy. None of this cold-shoulder crap.
Fred_Scuttle
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That is Very true. That is why back then getting a number actually meant something. The girl wanted to actually talk or date you then. She didn't hand out her number to every guy then string them along. You actually had to talk and set up dates with her unlike now. Guys were better with women back then. Even average joe's could get nice looking girls then unlike now. It is the new technology age with high advanced cellphones, cable tv, the media, the internet that ruined people that made the weak and focus too much on self approval, fashion, and looks. Go back 30 years or more and you would see a huge difference in women and men.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I agree - technology "sheeple".
It was VERY different I remember 15 or 20 years ago when I was dating. I hate it now. People (not just girls) always have their phone switched off (yes I'm THAT popular lol), and when you do get to talk to them on their mobile phone, the reception is often so bad, I waste half hours out of my life trying to understand what the hell they're saying.
As for text - talk about empowering and encouraging the weak.
Now these technologies have a place, but as we notice with all technology nowadays masquerading behind the mask of improving social relations, it does anything but.
People sending each other important messages over Facebook, what the hell is that?
Call me old fashioned but I love landlines, they don't suddenly run out and they are clear.
By the way, I work in I.T. so I'm not a technophobe. I just object to the fact that other people seem to be technophiles.
It was VERY different I remember 15 or 20 years ago when I was dating. I hate it now. People (not just girls) always have their phone switched off (yes I'm THAT popular lol), and when you do get to talk to them on their mobile phone, the reception is often so bad, I waste half hours out of my life trying to understand what the hell they're saying.
As for text - talk about empowering and encouraging the weak.
Now these technologies have a place, but as we notice with all technology nowadays masquerading behind the mask of improving social relations, it does anything but.
People sending each other important messages over Facebook, what the hell is that?
Call me old fashioned but I love landlines, they don't suddenly run out and they are clear.
By the way, I work in I.T. so I'm not a technophobe. I just object to the fact that other people seem to be technophiles.
Maxtro
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Uh, people used to have answering machines.
It was very common to have the machine answer the call and not pick up till you know who the caller is.
Unless you are talking about way back before those came out.
It was very common to have the machine answer the call and not pick up till you know who the caller is.
Unless you are talking about way back before those came out.
DonGorgon
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no contact does not affect women cause while you are playing absent she has 20 guys begging her for sex..
This. Too much crying, not enough solutions.Warrior74 said:30 years from now it will be different than it is now. She starts ignoring your mindtaps on the hive mind telepathic network and shields her thoughts. LOL. The game always changes, roll with the punches.
@Don - Think you misread bruh, the topic is about women using NC not the effect it has when males use it.
bilboteabaggins
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try this one on:
social setting, girl wants to talk to me, but won't come over, instead she sits across the room and keeps trying to text me and actually asked me out via text....WTF?????...I didn't want her anyways but this shocked the hell out of me
20ish HB's won't even answer the damn phone, they want nothing but text
social setting, girl wants to talk to me, but won't come over, instead she sits across the room and keeps trying to text me and actually asked me out via text....WTF?????...I didn't want her anyways but this shocked the hell out of me
20ish HB's won't even answer the damn phone, they want nothing but text
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
BustedKnucks
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It's not very DJ to post a whine thread.
jafyk
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So, what is the solution then? How do we adapt to these unpleasant changes. The part that gets me is they say don't call a girl too much she will miss you bla bla and wonder why bla...yet when u do it (go no contact) most of the time the relationship just dies. I'm sorta frustrated by this recently. Talking to girls and getting their numbers is not a problem it's just keeping them hooked. Yes, I have plates but they are not spinning and I have my interests as well. The girls will call sometimes but it's hard getting them to make plans.
2 reasonsjafyk said:The part that gets me is they say don't call a girl too much she will miss you bla bla and wonder why bla...yet when u do it (go no contact) most of the time the relationship just dies..
1) dudes get lower-contact and no-contact mixed up, the idea isn't to just disappear! dudes think if they go no-contact the girl will be all "oh noes he's gone now i realized how wonderful he is i love him"...um, lols. just reduce the contact a little is all, not this overly dramatic no-contact stuff - dudes like to swing from the extreme of overcontact to the other extreme of no-contact. its all over this board!
2) then they act kind of disinterested if the girl does contact as tho the girl is going to go "oh noes he was kind of short with me i must really work hard to keep him why didnt i realize oh noes"...again, lols to this. should make it that they are glad when they contact! reducing contact AND then being weird when they do contact is not a good look
the whole point isn't to go radio silence and then be weird if they contact! so histrionic! the point is to shift things a little so its them contacting a bit more than you, thats all! if they're contacting you, and then its good when they contact you....isn't that the aim? being weird with them i don't think looks so good
just a little less interaction...but better interaction