"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Girls b*tches me out for flaking

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I scheduled a date with this girl, just a casual thing but I guess she thought of it as a date.

Anyways tonight I told her I was too busy to make it and she got SUPER pissy...i mean she was tearing up and everything, whining like a little girl and being really sarcastic like "yeah everything is more important than me."

I was taken back because I took this as a sign of interest, but in the end I told her to eat some Turkey and laughed off anything she said.

Is this a common trait of an attention wh0re? Was she used to getting attention and men not putting her 1st in their lives? She doesn't seem like an A wh0re but I do notice subtle signs that she kinda is one....input plz
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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No, an attention ***** would be more cool in these sitautions. Like "psh, **** you then" type of mentality. Being an attention ***** means that, if you screw her over, she doesn't need you. That's the type of mindset an AW would have.

Here, you just have an emotional girl who feels rejected and sad at the action you've made. She's "feeling", not "thinking".
She's just being a chick, albeit a kind of out of control one. It's cute. Calm her down and reschedule, you'll make her day. See where it goes from there. Don't try to pinpoint what type of girl she is just from this.
 

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Are you serious!? You made a commitment and you broke it. If a woman did that to me on the FIRST DATE, it would be over from there. You're lucky she doesn't dump your sorry @$$... which I would recommend she do if she were the one asking for advice.

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^What?

Sometimes things come up.

Sometimes things come up that are more important than some girl you hardly know.

If a chick did this to me I would withdraw interest a little, but if she was sincere and still keen then I'd give her another shot.

Whack.
 

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Why did you cancel the date?
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Desert Fox said:
I scheduled a date with this girl, just a casual thing but I guess she thought of it as a date.

Anyways tonight I told her I was too busy to make it and she got SUPER pissy...i mean she was tearing up and everything, whining like a little girl and being really sarcastic like "yeah everything is more important than me."

I was taken back because I took this as a sign of interest, but in the end I told her to eat some Turkey and laughed off anything she said.

Is this a common trait of an attention wh0re? Was she used to getting attention and men not putting her 1st in their lives? She doesn't seem like an A wh0re but I do notice subtle signs that she kinda is one....input plz
its a common trait of a female human.. few men have enough other options to flake so girls are not accustomed to that type of rejection.
 

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A few more facts, this was a second date with her. We both enjoyed the first date so I scheduled a second one on the spot during the first date and said she could pick the restaurant this time so she did.

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Why did you cancel the date?
I cancelled because (a) I was damn tired after a long week, (b) I wanted to get away from her because we have 3 classes together and she is getting pretty clingy, and (c) wanted to come home and chill before Thanksgiving.

Everyone at college went home, I guess she had to stay and hoped we could do something together.

I will probably reschedule with her but honestly I am pretty turned off by this little sassy act.

I guess it is a normal reaction to rejection though, but this girl is hot and she knows it...tells me guys are asking her out all the time and saying stuff like "but lucky you get to take me out."

That's why I thought AW, my bad DJs. I should've included more information.

So what should my next move be? I'm thinking reschedule, tease her, and seal the deal.
 

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DonGorgon said:
its a common trait of a female human.. few men have enough other options to flake so girls are not accustomed to that type of rejection.
yeah i think this is it DonGorgon. This girl has some magnificent tits...I mean they are really awesome and she's kind to me, but there's something weird about her that is telling me not to get too close. Once she started getting clingy during a goddamn lecture I was like, ok I gotta pull back, this chick ... is acting up.
 

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Desert Fox said:
I scheduled a date with this girl, just a casual thing but I guess she thought of it as a date.

Anyways tonight I told her I was too busy to make it

You schedule a date with a girl, and then cancel it because you have something more important to do? If she did the same thing to you, you and everyone else on here would rip her to shreds. By canceling, you told her she you had something better to do than her and she is 2nd place. How does that make her feel important? How does that make her feel sexy? How does make her special? I would be surprised if she gave a second chance. You should be very apologetic and promise to make it up to her.


and she got SUPER pissy...i mean she was tearing up and everything, whining like a little girl and being really sarcastic like "yeah everything is more important than me."

She's right.

Is this a common trait of an attention wh0re? Was she used to getting attention and men not putting her 1st in their lives? She doesn't seem like an A wh0re but I do notice subtle signs that she kinda is one....input plz

No, she's not an "attention wh0re". She's a girl who was looking forward to a date and spending time with you because she liked you. If she did the same thing to you, you would be swearing and calling her names and swearing some more. She acted very reasonably as I would be pissed
 

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DonJuan11 said:

No, she's not an "attention wh0re". She's a girl who was looking forward to a date and spending time with you because she liked you. If she did the same thing to you, you would be swearing and calling her names and swearing some more. She acted very reasonably as I would be pissed
hmm yes because i was not in the mood and i don't wanna do sh1t i am not 100% down with. she can fvck off with someone else for all I care. i don't date immature whiny b1tches. they're all immature, but goddamn i cannot stand the whiny ones.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Desert Fox said:
hmm yes because i was not in the mood and i don't wanna do sh1t i am not 100% down with. she can fvck off with someone else for all I care. i don't date immature whiny b1tches. they're all immature, but goddamn i cannot stand the whiny ones.
Then you shouldn't have scheduled the date. She even stayed there rather than going home for the holidays just to go on a date with you. She could have been back home or made other plans. Of course she's going to be upset.
 

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Then you shouldn't have scheduled the date. She even stayed there rather than going home for the holidays just to go on a date with you. She could have been back home or made other plans. Of course she's going to be upset.
No she did not stay for me. I didn't even schedule it for Thanksgiving night. I decided to go home instead and I will not be coming back until school starts again. Now between now and school starting she is not going home and it's not because of me.

This topic made me realize one thing. I clearly do not give a crap about this girl besides her looks.
 

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Your gut is already telling you she's gonna be trouble! Please do listen to your gut. It will ****ing never lie to you. To me it seems she already considers you as relationship material. Bad! Bad! My gut warned me too in my most horrible afc mistake. I didn't listen. It ruined me!
 

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Your gut is already telling you she's gonna be trouble! Please do listen to your gut. It will ****ing never lie to you. To me it seems she already considers you as relationship material. Bad! Bad! My gut warned me too in my most horrible afc mistake. I didn't listen. It ruined me!
Thanks for sharing bro. In the past when I met a girl I had a gut feeling that she wasn't really into me...she was just into me for my help with something and connections and what not.

Like you I ignored my gut and guess what happened 2 months later? I was dropped after being used as a stepping stone to get to one of my uppers.

Felt sick to my stomach, but my gut will rarely let me down...I don't know how to explain it and I don't know exactly what it is (which is why I came here) but it's a weird feeling that says "Don't do this you idiot...it will not end well."
 
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