"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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girls and their vague answers

andee

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why are girls so vague? ok so i jokingly asked this girl to go out with me and that i like her because she mentioned how no one (im assuming her guy friends that met me) dont think i like her. her reply was "i wish"

and more recently she told me how this dude was going after her persistantly and she straight up told him that she only sees him as a friend and tossed him in the friend boat. and i casually asked, "hey what about me?" and she goes "i duno about you, im putting you on a yacht." i mean, what kinda crap is that?

a little before that, this was a bad move on my part, but whatever im still learning. i stood her up one day (when she distinctly told me not to the day before ) and i apologized on the phone and i asked "hey, do u think we could ever be bf//gf" (very bad i know!) and she asks me if im gonna stay here next year (this is my last yearin colllege) and i was like "haha oh **** ur actually considering it!?!?" and she was like "NOOO!!!" and her tone changed to somethign quieter and was like "blah blah u remind me of someone. i dont wanna be hurt blah blah" and i ended the conversation. w/o a real definite answer. we still talk and act normally but i dont bring that convo up.

she'll occasionally call me up for no real reason and i asked her why and she tells me, "because WE like to talk to eachother". from what she tells me, im an ass to her but thinks im funny/cute (c&f? which actually got me her number unintentionally). btw she has a bf she thinks shes gonna break up with. bad, i know. :( very AFCish.

i test her out by bringing up the topic of girls. id be like "yeah, my dream girl is a girl who looks amazing in a sundress and skates a longboard at the same time. like that one girl i saw on campus, but i never saw her face" and her reply was "blah blah i bet she was a butterface tehehe" and later she was like "i can pretend for you by carrying a skateboard around for a day with you. also you and i can take pictures" but i was like "yeah yeah, wtvr. thats lying to myself blah blah"

one more info about her is that she seems to put a spell on some guys in class where she'll befriend them and only calls them for help with hw and thats it. including the guy she LJBFed with. i mean, i offer almost no help and doesnt even bother , if anything i take her answers. i really dont wanna be in her all-boy-fan-club. am i in the friend zone!? its esp confusing whens shes flirting with me.
 
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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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schttrj

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Andee, I dont know how to start. I just remembered a saying: We had in us all along.... And thats what I am gonna say to you. This is your first post, so you are probably new to this thing I suppose. Man, let me tell you you have unconsciously been doing the correct things, I mean correct things.

Girls don't say outright that they are interested in us but they like to give us hints and we have to pick up that hints. This girl of yours is all into you and what you need to do now is just initiate and escalate the kino, gradually keeping her comfort and spend some quality time with her.

PS. I was going to kill you here..... i asked "hey, do u think we could ever be bf//gf" (very bad i know!) and she asks me if im gonna stay here next year (this is my last yearin colllege) and i was like "haha oh **** ur actually considering it!?!?" at this comment of urs, you made a solid comeback at the game.... thumbs up!
 

Vice

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schttrj said:
PS. I was going to kill you here..... i asked "hey, do u think we could ever be bf//gf" (very bad i know!) and she asks me if im gonna stay here next year (this is my last yearin colllege) and i was like "haha oh **** ur actually considering it!?!?" at this comment of urs, you made a solid comeback at the game.... thumbs up!
Ditto.

That was a bad, bad move right there. You're lucky her interest level is high, or else you'd be GONE, dude.
 

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andee said:
one more info about her is that she seems to put a spell on some guys in class where she'll befriend them and only calls them for help with hw and thats it. including the guy she LJBFed with. i mean, i offer almost no help and doesnt even bother , if anything i take her answers. i really dont wanna be in her all-boy-fan-club. am i in the friend zone!? its esp confusing whens shes flirting with me.
You are in the fan club! From reading you're post I think you havn't a clue really.. just have to learn your lesson.

Start off by reading these 2 threads to help.

Escaping the Friendzone
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43174

Getting Girls to Chase You
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60358
 

andee

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yeah, i feel like i should ignore her for a while just to get my mind in order and to see if she will chase me. today she called me and i ignored it and she txted me saying she needed to borrow my notes for a class cos she was studying for a midterm today. but i txted her saying that she was a funny girl and that she should go ask that guy who she LJBFed. tho i did call her later in accident, but i cancelled the phone call before she picked up. stupid caller id. ugh.

thanks to this forum i can see why i failed in the past and what ive done wrong currently. but im making improvements, guys!

from what i see. she seems to have this guy friend who she hangs around with a lot (he even added a class as the same time as her when he didnt even need to take it). she told me that he's just a friend, i cant help but be jealous that he does get to spend time with her like this; and from what ive read in this forum, spending too much time like almost everyday with a girl is a bad bad thing?

but it makes me wonder if he's just a really really good friend or horribly dug deep into the friend zone or maybe she really is interested in him. he's known her for over a year and i havent seem him initiate any kino at all. who knows. i wish girls werent such a roller coaster ride.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Teh_Wolf

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man welcome to the boards :p and gj with the good attitude thats helps alot :p
 
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