"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Well i am 18 years old and i am almost 19. However, i have been noticing that younger girls may be interested in guys with good game, but a lot of them might not be. I could be totally wrong on this, but i think that at a younger age they are immature and prefer to go for guys with muscles or beleive that they have to be in a serious relationship with someone before they can give it up because they are anxious (maybe have done it once or not at all).

What do you guys think about this? I know this is not true with all young girls, but maybe the majority of them?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i think you are right... younger girls are more immature and in general, they love older guys
 

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I am not saying they love older guys. I just think that for younger guys to game them you need to be in a better physical shape and you need to work on other things older girls may overlook or don't hold as one of their priorities.
 

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Younger girls don't have the social identity/intellect/experience to appreciate a classy pickup. They tend to be superficial and go for Hip guys or dumb jocks or muscular hooligans.

But you should never degrade your identity to be that guy. Be your best self and its her loss if she is too dumb to not chase you.
 

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I don't want to change who i am or degrade myself, but i am going to work on a few things to get girls my own age. Its a win-win for me because what i am going to start focusing more on is losing the extra 10-15 lbs i carry and build up some muscle. If nothing comes from it I will have gained muscle and lost weight.

I just wanted to confirm that what i had been noticing about younger girls and what people have been indicating to me about them is true. Apparently I am right and if I want to present my best self to them i need to focus a lot more on my physical appearance than I will when i get older
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Put it this way, my former oneitis HB 8 is basically going out with this druggie that is 20 years old, works full time at baskin robins and would be considered scum to you and I. She goes out with him for one reason, he supplies her with free weed. I knew this girl well (ljbf) and she would never consider this guy about 5 months back. All you can do is laugh...
 

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It also depends on how they were raised, their education, their friends.

If they go to a good school or college, have good friends, and some social experience they will be better in their choices and preferences.

But anyway, what you are planning is surely a win-win for yourself. Go ahead.
 

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I worked as a pharmacy tech in walmart all summer,
and many times i was hit on by older women. I guess guys my age should be aiming for the cougars, and 20+ years from now it will be no problem banging 20 year olds.
 

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daygameguy said:
Younger girls don't have the social identity/intellect/experience to appreciate a classy pickup. They tend to be superficial and go for Hip guys or dumb jocks or muscular hooligans.

But you should never degrade your identity to be that guy. Be your best self and its her loss if she is too dumb to not chase you.
What exactly is a classy pickup?
 

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daygameguy said:
Younger girls don't have the social identity/intellect/experience to appreciate a classy pickup. They tend to be superficial and go for Hip guys or dumb jocks or muscular hooligans.

But you should never degrade your identity to be that guy. Be your best self and its her loss if she is too dumb to not chase you.
agree agree
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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oakraiderz2 said:
What exactly is a classy pickup?
classy would mean like a smooth ladies man. No clunky abrupt AFC mistakes made. Being a smooth alpha male with an attitude of a gentleman.

No "HEy sexy waht up!" or "yo, wanna dance!" or "sup? u got a phone number?".. i don't know, these can be used properly, but usually they don't sound classy.
 

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daygameguy said:
classy would mean like a smooth ladies man. No clunky abrupt AFC mistakes made. Being a smooth alpha male with an attitude of a gentleman.

No "HEy sexy waht up!" or "yo, wanna dance!" or "sup? u got a phone number?".. i don't know, these can be used properly, but usually they don't sound classy.
You seem like an AFC, especially after that FR you posted about the "i dont know" rejection. And you would be suprised how many girls can dig what you call a "classy pickup." I just think you struggle a litte, hence why you think girls only like "gangsta" guys.
 

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You seem like an AFC, especially after that FR you posted about the "i dont know" rejection. And you would be suprised how many girls can dig what you call a "classy pickup." I just think you struggle a litte, hence why you think girls only like "gangsta" guys.
My opinions are bit harsh on the "gangsta" type guys, may be because its not my style. My opinions are always open to critique as I am still on my path to enlightenment. Maybe I'll look back at some of the opinions I expressed today and not agree with most of it.

I can post only the best smooth pickups of my everyday life and get rep points for it, but I had the balls to post my failure, even though I honestly didn't want to analyze it to such a painfully high degree, that's exactly what happened, its just the nature of discussion forums.

I know I might sound AFC at times, I am kind of rusty at the moment, stuck in a slack period with less time for game, so I'm just going to accept all the negative words, cuz I know it's going to help me improve. So thanks Oak Raider, i'll keep your views in mind.
 

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daygameguy said:
But you should never degrade your identity to be that guy. Be your best self and its her loss if she is too dumb to not chase you.
You are the great catch, not her. Therefore, it's their loss, not yours.
 

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Thanks guys for all the responses. It is just distressing to know that young women are so immature. Especially since i want to get with young hot women right now....

It doesn't matter though because all i can really do is improve myself and make them attracted to me. If attraction really isn't a choice then it can't be that hard to get any girl i want young or older.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Pathgen said:
Thanks guys for all the responses. It is just distressing to know that young women are so immature. Especially since i want to get with young hot women right now....

It doesn't matter though because all i can really do is improve myself and make them attracted to me. If attraction really isn't a choice then it can't be that hard to get any girl i want young or older.
Just adjust your energy levels depending on whether she is 30 or 18.. also keep in mind their experience/intellect level - like for instance, I avoid using long meaningful cold reads on 18 yr old freshman girls, as they react better to shorter BS type cold reads. (just an example). But sometimes young girls can be quite mature and intellectual, you just have to sense these things and go for the girls that interest you.

Be socially savvy and calibrate you game.

Style, if you've read his books, was picking up young 19yr olds all the way upto 60 yr old women.
 

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Just adjust your energy levels depending on whether she is 30 or 18.. also keep in mind their experience/intellect level - like for instance, I avoid using long meaningful cold reads on 18 yr old freshman girls, as they react better to shorter BS type cold reads. (just an example). But sometimes young girls can be quite mature and intellectual, you just have to sense these things and go for the girls that interest you.
Can you give example of these reads... im not sure what the word means
 

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daygameguy said:
Younger girls don't have the social identity/intellect/experience to appreciate a classy pickup. They tend to be superficial and go for Hip guys or dumb jocks or muscular hooligans.

But you should never degrade your identity to be that guy. Be your best self and its her loss if she is too dumb to not chase you.
Well said. Most girls don't appreciate the concept of being taken out to dinner until they are older than 21 at least
 

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Pathgen said:
Can you give example of these reads... im not sure what the word means
That was just an example. But anyway, a cold read is statement(s) made about a person you've just met during a cold approach.

Long cold read:

"You seem like a person who likes taking things 1 step at a time...some people are rush freaks they want to finish stuff asap but you like to take things slow and focus on every single step to be really satisfied with the final result that comes out of it."

Short read:

"you seem like a lot of fun"
"you are such a bad girl with a totally good girl face"
 

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daygameguy said:
I know I might sound AFC at times, I am kind of rusty at the moment, stuck in a slack period with less time for game, so I'm just going to accept all the negative words, cuz I know it's going to help me improve. So thanks Oak Raider, i'll keep your views in mind.
Its constructive critisim. Girls ARE receptive to interactions without the gangsta yo yo baby and all that sh*t. I dont like that stuff either and would only do it as a joke.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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