"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Girlfriend wants to wait for marriage

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Ok so I've been dating this girl for awhile. Long story short, she is strict about waiting for marriage before doing the deed. She had a boyfriend of 4 years and they never went all the way.

Is it possible to still fvck this girl? I'm a virgin as well so I don't know how to seduce women. Tips?

edit: She also keeps on saying that i'm confusing and hard to read, wtf does that mean?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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joverby

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The confusing and hard to read part could probably be she thinks your actions may contridict your words sometimes?
 

f283000

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One of the rules of the legendary Rollo Tomassi is (hopefully someone posts it)

if she makes you wait for the secks the secks never turns out to be good.
(or something like that

If I were you I would concentrate on other women. You only have 1 life to live and if you waste 4 years of your life and get nothing in return that's called being stupid (like her former bf).

There are plenty of beautiful women for you to waste time on one that will not give you a bit of fun.
 

DonGorgon

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lol... she does not want to marry you... she wants tkoho around more then marry a guy like you later on after she has has aloooot more sexual fun with bad boys who dont want to marry her.....
 

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Trust me she's not worth the wait. I was dating a girl who told me the same thing and even though I never pressured her she still broke up with me. Yea, search for that Rollo Tomassi's Iron rule.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ace_Magnamus

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if you like her that much stick with her. if she is uptight about sex get some action on the side. problem solved
 

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How old is she? if this is during high school I can understand the 4 years thing and no sex. but anything after and its looking grim for ya buddy.
 
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Leave her. Unless, of course, you also believe in waiting until marriage. If that's the case, keep her around long enough to find out if she's worthy of such a thing. Otherwise, leave her ASAP.
 

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That's bs,shes bsing you gotta stimulate her that she cant resist.gotta get inside her mind and sabatoge. sabatoge as in make her feel comfortable and gain your trust.That no s3x until marriage is just a cover so she doesn't feel like a slvt or a pump and dump. Virgin girls tend to cling on to their virginity for dear life and wish to lose it in their unrealistic fantasies with mr.perfect. Heed others words don't waste time with a virgin if you feel you can't get it in, although its very possible regardless of what she says.
 

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She's a keeper.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Mehh, i waited 4 months to have sex with my girl, I would not wait till marriage. why would anyone wait till marriage?? i think I wanna know how it feels like doing it with my girl before marriage. Imagine you get married, you do it, and then you dont like it? would you wanna stay with a girl who is horrible at sex?

its like a girl telling you she doesnt kiss unless she is ina serious relationship. how the hell am I to get in a serious relationship with someone I havent kissed before? what if the kiss tastes really bad?
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
Leave her. Unless, of course, you also believe in waiting until marriage. If that's the case, keep her around long enough to find out if she's worthy of such a thing. Otherwise, leave her ASAP.
Yep. +1

If this girl is absolutely dead-set on no sex before marriage and you don't share the same belief, then you're incompatible with this girl. Drop her and spin [a] new plate.

Now, depending on her IL, she may or may not be shit-testing you and/or it could just be ASD. My current GF gave me the same line but we fucked on the next date so...

Actions trump everything.
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
Leave her. Unless, of course, you also believe in waiting until marriage. If that's the case, keep her around long enough to find out if she's worthy of such a thing. Otherwise, leave her ASAP.
I agree. I would say ask yourself: "What do I want?"

Do you want to wait until marriage? My bet is on no, otherwise I don't believe you would be here making this post!


djceta21 said:
Is it possible to still fvck this girl? I'm a virgin as well so I don't know how to seduce women.

Remember, this isn't about her, this is about YOU! You clearly want to experience sex so why would you enslave yourself to her whims? Though I've never been with a woman that has fed me that line, I've heard plenty of my friends mention they've overcome this "challenge." If you want to get with this girl, the only thing you can do is attempt it (I'm sure you can find many seduction techniques on this board). Or find someone else. There are plenty of girls that want sex before marriage.
 

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Move on.

You don't realize it yet but sex plays a BIG part in a relationship and when it's good and there is sexual chemistry it is great and can really do wonders for it, but if this chick turns out to be a lame in bed or if for some reason you don't fulfill her sexual needs (not bashing you but just hypothetically speaking) it would potentially ruin things if you were to wait it out with her.

Lose that V card and bang a few chicks and you will realize how silly it would have been for you to wait this out.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I do want to move on and at this point it's probably ridiculous to stay in this relationship, but the gamer in me wants to stay in to see if I can be her first.

Any tips for seduction? When we were making out I felt her puss and it was pretty wet... so I think I'm close.
 
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