"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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powpow

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My advice is dont be in a relationship when you are 21. Rather, get yourself together, bang girls when you start to feel the urge.

Bro, seriously. What could you be doing with your time? Worrying about some *****es shirt, or

working out
studying a new language
learning kung fu
learning about architecture
travelling (not to some whiney *****es house)
making connections
crochet

list list list do something else besides worry about controlling a 20 year old.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Pwnge

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Your right this; is very hard but I guess it's either now or do it when it even hurt more. I figure that from now on I will block all her calls, Will not respond to her texts and block anything from her family. Just to make this as smooth as possible for me. I'm already talking to a few girls.

This might seem like I am running away from my problems but I think this will make me get over this faster.
 

Masculinity

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When she finds something to argue about I just say I'm sorry and I don't do it anymore. When I find something worth arguing over she doesn't budge. Then she wants to claim that everything has to go my way.
Sounds like your being pu$$ified. She's got a grip on you and you're becoming her puppy. This arguing back and forth is the icing on the cake. There is more things that are going on here.

As for calling her clothing trashy: Did she dress like this when you met her? Calling it trashy isn't the best way to say you don't like something. Just tell her you don't like that shirt or whatever she's wearing. If she is really interested in you then she won't let small things like that get in between you two. However, it sounds like she's just trying to boss you around by taking your keys and saying you weren't leaving.

Start spinning new plates. This is a time bomb waiting to explode.
 

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Hahaha. Girlfriend issues & you're 21. Hehehehehehe. Let me give some unique advice here. Stay with this chick & go through the motions & see how it works out. I think you need to experience this. Teeheee.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Pwnge

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Day 3 of No Contact.

She sent me a series of text a couple hours ago saying this.

I hate to do this by texting you but I get emotional when I talk about it. I feel as though we have a friendship instead of a relationship for a while now and we should just be friends. I had to get this off my chest, Dont pull away from my family because they love you. I wish you the best
I will not reply to this text and I will ignore every single phone call I get from her from now on. I will also ignore anything that her family has to say to me.

In my mind tbh I just want to tell her to go f*ck herself and f*ck you and your family. But I'll keep that to myself especially because I am heated.
 

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Good work! Make it 60 days of no contact and she'll be long gone. Stick to it :trouble:
 

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Pwnge said:
Day 3 of No Contact.

She sent me a series of text a couple hours ago saying this.



I will not reply to this text and I will ignore every single phone call I get from her from now on. I will also ignore anything that her family has to say to me.

In my mind tbh I just want to tell her to go f*ck herself and f*ck you and your family. But I'll keep that to myself especially because I am heated.
"Ok, no hard feelings" would be a good reply to that text.

And it is my opinion that you should not let hatred lead you. I think you did yourself well in not telling her to "go f*ck herself" etc, and you should do no such thing. Chances are you won't run into this girl again since you are long distance, so delete everything about her. Don't try to make it seem to her like you deleted her from your life by acting aloof when she texts you or messages you, actually do it. Otherwise you will only fool yourself. Deleting her includes her number, facebook, everything; you don't keep anything.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to move on. Actually move on, and not hold on to any thoughts. If you are keeping a log of "it has been x amount of days since NC" then you are bull****ting yourself because you are not letting go.
 

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Best thing to do is no contact. But don't do it out of hate. Do it for you just tryign to forget about her.
 

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I have learned so many things just from this relationship. I shall never make this same mistake again. We havent had sex in like 2 months and I been told her that without sex it doesn't feel like a relationship and she persuaded me otherwise and all this crap about how she still feels like she is in a relationship and how she loves me.

I tryed to hard to help her out. Whenever I had some extra change I would do anything for her like buy her groceries and buy her some food. I didn't even get anything for my birthday?.... Ya... right. I wanted to end it sooner but I guess I didn't have the balls to do it because in the back of my mind I thought we could have worked. It's done with and I can't get the time nor money I invested in this relationship back but I can move on from her. Her mother texted me this morning and I just deleted it off rip. I still think about her a lot but I will get over her quickly.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Kirro

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Pwnge said:
I have learned so many things just from this relationship. I shall never make this same mistake again. We havent had sex in like 2 months and I been told her that without sex it doesn't feel like a relationship and she persuaded me otherwise and all this crap about how she still feels like she is in a relationship and how she loves me.

I tryed to hard to help her out. Whenever I had some extra change I would do anything for her like buy her groceries and buy her some food. I didn't even get anything for my birthday?.... Ya... right. I wanted to end it sooner but I guess I didn't have the balls to do it because in the back of my mind I thought we could have worked. It's done with and I can't get the time nor money I invested in this relationship back but I can move on from her. Her mother texted me this morning and I just deleted it off rip. I still think about her a lot but I will get over her quickly.
*chuckles*

You haven't had sex in two months yet when you had extra change you'd buy her groceries & food? I marvel at the female ability to take without giving anything back. I really do.
 

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Yes, This had to be done sooner or later. She just beat me to the punch. I have learned a lot from this one relationship however. I was chillin with a girl I used to mess around with last year. I don't like backtracking but this is a good start.
 

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It's been since 5/28 since I even talked to the dumb girl. I am still angry over this, The reason I'm mad is because now I'm in a little financial trouble with this small fine I have to pay. I remember when I was in this relationship I spent over 2k on this girl and her family. I would really like to just email this girl and give her my bank account and tell her to let me get at least the 100$ her mom owes me.

Besides that my life is very good. Girls are not a problem for me. I got a lot of them, also got a job. So life is good except for this ticket I got to pay. Also I have hard time trusting girls. I've had many times to get in a relationship with other women but I've learned it's not wise to get into a relationship this young so I am just living the bachelor lifestyle for now.
 

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Pwnge said:
So hours later she then calls me and brings it back up just to throw in my face I am not her father and I can't ever tell her what to do. I then proceed to tell her that if she feels like I'm just trying to control her then she needs to break up with me.

Fail. You don't give her the power like that, it's foolish at best. Instead you should show her the door and be willing to walk away. That can shock their system and instill dread of being cut loose which a lot of times can make them reinvest in the relationship and straighten up. Furthermore, you are perfectly entitled to having standards and expectations of behavior on her part. If she fails to measure up then you've got to decide if it's worth cutting her lose over. That said, this is a conversation you should have had a LOOOOOONG time ago.

Guys, take some time and figure out where your boundaries are and be sure to communicate them, and sooner rather than later, as well as what will happen if they don't meet those standards/expectations. It's not an ultimatum, it's having standards. And showing you have standards show's you've got balls and they'll respect you for it, not to mention men with standards are innately attractive because wussy men that beg & scrape for sex can't afford to have standards, thus by having them you basically prevent being seen in that negative light.
 

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luckster said:
"Ok, no hard feelings" would be a good reply to that text.
Nope, too beta. A one word reply such as "cool" or nothing at all is the way to go. It'll frak with her head how he could be so callous about it and will make her stew. That stewing over his lack of concern will build up as investment. Once her investment rises to a certain point, assuming she's not following a similar "no contact" rule or meets someone in the interim, it'll cause her to re-initiate contact down the road. This could be week, months, sometimes years down the road.

Edit: just noticed this was an old thread. My advice still stands though.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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