Girlfriend finding out about other plates.

[SmooveMooves]

What's gonna cause him to pay? God? Lmao a poster said he'd have karma working against him. Bro if you think good things happen to good people and bad to bad you're going to have a hard time in the real world.

You know what's going to happen here... Op is going to string these women on for as long as he keeps his game tight. And even on a slip up, he still might keep them around. And you guys know this.

I think it bothers you that the game can be played just as 'dirty' as a woman's and success still achieved. But yeah, keep hoping some magical force is going to punish him for manipulating women. Which us what we all do here anyway.

 

[Jaylan]

Why so damn vague about where you live OP? You dont have to give us the exact country, but knowing the region would be helpful. Are you in South Asia? Eastern Europe? The Caribbean? Latin America? Where? Telling us you live in a "New World" country isnt telling us much. As that area of the world spans continents.

Im still trying to understand how a man who's been on this board for years still get pressured by society into having relationships he doesnt want.

Knowing the region you live in would be helpful to those of us analyzing your situation OP.

PS - And drop all that hyperbole you speak with. It's become overused and exhausting to read.

 

[Serenity]

What's gonna cause him to pay? God? Lmao a poster said he'd have karma working against him. Bro if you think good things happen to good people and bad to bad you're going to have a hard time in the real world.

You know what's going to happen here... Op is going to string these women on for as long as he keeps his game tight. And even on a slip up, he still might keep them around. And you guys know this.

I think it bothers you that the game can be played just as 'dirty' as a woman's and success still achieved. But yeah, keep hoping some magical force is going to punish him for manipulating women. Which us what we all do here anyway.

I'm not that delusional. I don't believe in God and if there is one he's not gonna do anything. Karma? In a way, but it's not some magical unknown force, people are the ones enacting karma.

I don't believe in any magical forces, but I know for a fact revenge is a real thing. OP is going to string them along for as long they don't find the truth, what happens after that is not entirely within his control. This is a risk and you know Murphy's law right? Nobody can play a perfect game at all times, his mistake is evident here. It takes just one bad slip-up to set off the landslide, it's not very likely he'll be able to evade it until death. Unless he ends it before it fails.

It doesn't bother or surprise me that men can play just as dirty as women, I already know this. It bothers me that people play dirty at all, it bothers me that people consciously hurt other people.

I'm not fooled by such people, it's amusing to witness how they think I don't know their game. I know one person who had the mindset OP has, I sure made life a living hell for that person when I found out how I was manipulated and lied to. There's no mystery force at work here, it's just me.

 

[BeExcellent]

There are many different people on this board with widely varied life experience, education, and backgrounds. The most successful at your manner of game tend also to be the most discreet. Even the most discreet can be read by an experienced eye. You are not as discreet as you imagine yourself to be. You are still young and do not see yet how your megalomania can be used against you and how you yourself could be manipulated. The intellectually arrogant are people who think they can see everything, and thus they are entirely stunned when they are exposed. And they greatly dislike exposure.

So what if your girlfriend finds out? According to you this all serves your goals. If you arise from a culture where your attitudes are not uncommon and where chastity (or the appearance thereof) is of extreme importance then you will have other men with far more resources and influence to deal with if you dishonor their family. In such an instance you will be dealt with harshly and unceremoniously. But beforehand you will be granted more than enough rope to hang yourself. In that way your persecutors may demonstrate justification. And in this way you may dishonor your own family.

Here is another maxim for you: A man with an experience is NEVER at the mercy of a man with a theory.

All the reading in the world cannot grant you the life experience of someone else with more experience and wisdom than you. The more life experience you gain the more you will understand how much you do not know, and cannot know. But at the moment you still suffer from the arrogance of youth. Intelligence and education are not the same thing. You can have one without the other.

Along the way you will run into someone who plays the game better than you. Perhaps a woman. And then you will learn who you are. But you are not there yet.

My final thought for you is this: Empathy is not weakness; it is a different type of intelligence at work. Intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence are not the same thing. You may be intellectually brilliant/genius and emotionally bereft. Psychopathic genius falls into this category. If you are emotionally bereft or if you are incapable of empathy then that will be your Achilles heel. And you will not be able to mask this indefinitely because you cannot grasp what it really is.

Enjoy your playboy years and your youth. Youth will fade in time. Be kind to people who show you favor. And learn to be genuine. One day you may tire of using people and being used yourself. Not now. But one day. Cheers

 

[Ronaldo7]

Why so damn vague about where you live OP? You dont have to give us the exact country, but knowing the region would be helpful. Are you in South Asia? Eastern Europe? The Caribbean? Latin America? Where? Telling us you live in a "New World" country isnt telling us much. As that area of the world spans continents.

Im still trying to understand how a man who's been on this board for years still get pressured by society into having relationships he doesnt want.

Knowing the region you live in would be helpful to those of us analyzing your situation OP.

PS - And drop all that hyperbole you speak with. It's become overused and exhausting to read.

I live in Latin America. The New World is most often referred to the Americas.

If the case was where I'd be pressured by society, I'd have broken up with my girlfriend and spun plates without commitment.

I'm not pressured into anything. The only reason I got into this relationship is because she wouldn't allow sex without commitment. She's a great plate to have. Social value, very attractive and great intercourse.

In other words, I instill my influence in society and not the other way around.

 

[Tictac]

I live in Latin America. The New World is most often referred to the Americas.

If the case was where I'd be pressured by society, I'd have broken up with my girlfriend and spun plates without commitment.

I'm not pressured into anything. The only reason I got into this relationship is because she wouldn't allow sex without commitment. She's a great plate to have. Social value, very attractive and great intercourse.

In other words, I instill my influence in society and not the other way around.

A tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

 

[Jaylan]

I live in Latin America. The New World is most often referred to the Americas.

If the case was where I'd be pressured by society, I'd have broken up with my girlfriend and spun plates without commitment.

I'm not pressured into anything. The only reason I got into this relationship is because she wouldn't allow sex without commitment. She's a great plate to have. Social value, very attractive and great intercourse.

In other words, I instill my influence in society and not the other way around.

So you got into a relationship just to get sex, when the teachings of this site preach against that. Come on man... You don't get in relationships for sex. Especially with women you don't remain faithful to.

Your need to bang this one girl has taken away your freedom and pushed you into a life of sneaking around.

That's lame bro. Dump the girl and go live life. You don't sacrifice your freedom merely for sex.

If I really didn't want to be with a girl, I wouldn't commit just for sex. I would have bailed and found a woman who was ok with casually dating.

 

[Ronaldo7]

There are many different people on this board with widely varied life experience, education, and backgrounds. The most successful at your manner of game tend also to be the most discreet. Even the most discreet can be read by an experienced eye. You are not as discreet as you imagine yourself to be. You are still young and do not see yet how your megalomania can be used against you and how you yourself could be manipulated. The intellectually arrogant are people who think they can see everything, and thus they are entirely stunned when they are exposed. And they greatly dislike exposure.

I'm very discreet with my dealings. I'm being open here, which is the only venture I can expose myself as freely. If I'm honest with you, I wish I'd be exposed. It'd show me an scenario where said individual is at the same level of intellect as I am. It's a game where I always win and it has got to a point where it's too boring. Please elaborate as to how I'd be manipulated regarding women.

So what if your girlfriend finds out? According to you this all serves your goals. If you arise from a culture where your attitudes are not uncommon and where chastity (or the appearance thereof) is of extreme importance then you will have other men with far more resources and influence to deal with if you dishonor their family. In such an instance you will be dealt with harshly and unceremoniously. But beforehand you will be granted more than enough rope to hang yourself. In that way your persecutors may demonstrate justification. And in this way you may dishonor your own family.

My girlfriend did find out. She forgave me after. I carry myself with a very serious appearance and do not engage in activities where I will not emerge like a complete gentleman and an example to follow. The intellectuals love me, while the ordinary envy me. The intellectuals are the powerful people whom I am best serve to form alliances with.

Here is another maxim for you: A man with an experience is NEVER at the mercy of a man with a theory.

All the reading in the world cannot grant you the life experience of someone else with more experience and wisdom than you. The more life experience you gain the more you will understand how much you do not know, and cannot know. But at the moment you still suffer from the arrogance of youth. Intelligence and education are not the same thing. You can have one without the other.

Arrogance is not how I'd describe myself. I'd say misunderstood. I've built everything I have, I've pursued my ambitions and no one has introduced me to any women. I've got everything I have through my own merits and abilities. I don't take credit if it's not my own. I don't like sharing the spotlight, but it's only because I work arduously to bathe in the glory forthcoming. I don't engage the banalities of the world. I don't drink, I don't consume drugs and I don't party. I work solely on myself to achieve an enduring legacy where my potential was fulfilled and where I enriched myself as much as I could. I serve the world a lot more than commoners who only know to spout trivialities.

Along the way you will run into someone who plays the game better than you. Perhaps a woman. And then you will learn who you are. But you are not there yet.

I wish your second fragment would come true. I love challenges. I love when someone challenges me intellectually.

My final thought for you is this: Empathy is not weakness; it is a different type of intelligence at work. Intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence are not the same thing. You may be intellectually brilliant/genius and emotionally bereft. Psychopathic genius falls into this category. If you are emotionally bereft or if you are incapable of empathy then that will be your Achilles heel. And you will not be able to mask this indefinitely because you cannot grasp what it really is.

Enjoy your playboy years and your youth. Youth will fade in time. Be kind to people who show you favor. And learn to be genuine. One day you may tire of using people and being used yourself. Not now. But one day. Cheers

I'm kind to those who are kind to me. I'm genuine in my own way. Nullius in Verba.

 

[BeTheChange]

Ignore the moralisers Ronaldo. All I see are a bunch of posters who dont seem to be aware of the irony of preaching their value judgements as objective truths on a bloody pick up site when most of society would do the same to them for posting on this site in the first place.

Actions have consequences. As long as you're willing to accept the potential fallout do what's best for you.

 

[Serenity]

I live in Latin America. The New World is most often referred to the Americas.

If the case was where I'd be pressured by society, I'd have broken up with my girlfriend and spun plates without commitment.

I'm not pressured into anything. The only reason I got into this relationship is because she wouldn't allow sex without commitment. She's a great plate to have. Social value, very attractive and great intercourse.

In other words, I instill my influence in society and not the other way around.

Wow that's dumb. You allowed yourself to be whipped into a relationship over pvssy, I do look forward to when she realizes this. She'll be able to use her pvssy to control you, because that's what you're after and what a man desires becomes his weakness. There's also the fact that your society pressures committment as you said, then you say you're not pressured by it? Seriously dude, open your eyes. You let yourself be pressured into committment for the sake of sex.

I'm not even going to bash you anymore for the cheating. Your game is too weak to last anyways.

I'm guessing you think you can just break up whenever you want, but have you fully understood the implications of committment? Have fun on that day, I doubt it will be as easy as you think.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Ignore the moralisers Ronaldo. All I see are a bunch of posters who dont seem to be aware of the irony of preaching their value judgements as objective truths on a bloody pick up site when most of society would do the same to them for posting on this site in the first place.

Actions have consequences. As long as you're willing to accept the potential fallout do what's best for you.

I'm willing to accept the potential fallout.

Being a celebrity means dealing with the photographers too. I understand the fact where I'll have potential chaos if I commit I mistake in the situation I'm in.

Wow that's dumb. You allowed yourself to be whipped into a relationship over pvssy, I do look forward to when she realizes this. She'll be able to use her pvssy to control you, because that's what you're after and what a man desires becomes his weakness. There's also the fact that your society pressures committment as you said, then you say you're not pressured by it? Seriously dude, open your eyes. You let yourself be pressured into committment for the sake of sex.

Not at all. The end justifies the means. A gold digger is not going to be so obvious in showing you what she wants, but she'll play whatever part is most effective to obtain her desire.

In her mind, I'm her boyfriend. In my mind, she's just another girl I'm sleeping with. See the difference? I have no attachment.

She can't control me. Even though I'm only into that, I'm an individual who holds no expectations or attachment in anything other than myself. If she goes, I'll replace her with someone else. If you think I'd be crumbled to my very soul, you are mistaken. Carpe Diem. If you don't invest any money, why would you feel bad if the stock went on a landslide? Simply because you don't have anything worthwhile put into it. Expectation.

My society pressures towards it. I don't care about its opinion. If you haven't realized by now, I do my own thing. I adapt to what I need and depending on what the situation requires me to do. Example: You can leave the hood, but can the hood leave you? It's all about your essence deep down. Were you pressured to commit for sex or did you just play whatever ACT/ROLE (read fake) to obtain your objective? I did the second. Proof of it is my nonchalant attitude towards everything that doesn't concern me.

I'm not even going to bash you anymore for the cheating. Your game is too weak to last anyways.

I'm happy you think my game is too weak. Truly am. As if LeBron James is going to care if some kid in the D-League thinks his game is weak. Results are the only thing that matters.

I'm guessing you think you can just break up whenever you want, but have you fully understood the implications of committment? Have fun on that day, I doubt it will be as easy as you think.

I have no commitment. That's what you fully do not grasp.

 

[Tictac]

I'm not pressured into anything. The only reason I got into this relationship is because she wouldn't allow sex without commitment.

You can't even comprehend your own typing. You are clearly a boy that attempts using words think for you and succeeded only in confusing yourself. When that doesn't work for you, you simply forget what you just typed. You type that you made no commitment just after typing that you did. Your words have no meaning whatever.

For you think or (even funnier) believe that your foppish words have any meaning outside your head is funny in a sad sort of way.

It's easy to see how you come to the conclusion that you're better than everyone else. It's because you type and think gibberish of no substance.

 

[Serenity]

I have no commitment. That's what you fully do not grasp.

Oh I get that, but I get that she IS committed. I also get that you don't keep to your word. All of that just means you cannot be trusted, I get that too. Your words then mean nothing, you mean nothing and you are nothing. When people finally realize that then you're going to be rejected everywhere you go, all that just because of some pvssy. It's not only destructive for others, but it's ultimately self-destructive. Fvck everyone else if you will, but this isn't even in your own selfish interest in the long run.

Few people are forgiving of and tolerant of what you're doing, those who do tolerate this are the ones who have no problem stabbing you in the back. You're dooming yourself if they find out, but please go ahead getting yourself rejected from society to be some lonely loser. That's how such people end up, not as high flying CEOs. If you're going to play the way you do then attention is the last thing you want, people look and they don't always see what you want them to see.

To avoid the entire issue you just have to learn how to fvck women without deception, lots of us are able to do it and skip all the unnecessary risks you're taking. This is why I think you're dumb.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Oh I get that, but I get that she IS committed. I also get that you don't keep to your word. All of that just means you cannot be trusted, I get that too. Your words then mean nothing, you mean nothing and you are nothing. When people finally realize that then you're going to be rejected everywhere you go, all that just because of some pvssy. It's not only destructive for others, but it's ultimately self-destructive. Fvck everyone else if you will, but this isn't even in your own selfish interest in the long run.

I have no regard if she is committed. I'm not and that is all that matters here.

I do keep my word. I carefully choose the words i'll use in the sentence i'll utter so as to insert my real intention into it. In reality, i don't necessarily "lie".

When people finally realize what? That i'm two steps ahead? Move fast, think forward. And besides, my serious, charmful mien serves me well. I'm such an endearing individual towards the people i'm interested in meeting. A wolf in sheep's clothing, while most people do the opposite and demonstrate being a sheep in wolf's clothing.

You look at the world from such an acute angle. Widen your scope and you'll see the magnificent spectrum looming above.

Few people are forgiving of and tolerant of what you're doing, those who do tolerate this are the ones who have no problem stabbing you in the back. You're dooming yourself if they find out, but please go ahead getting yourself rejected from society to be some lonely loser. That's how such people end up, not as high flying CEOs. If you're going to play the way you do then attention is the last thing you want, people look and they don't always see what you want them to see.

Well.... The women are. The girlfriend is enthralled with me and as long as i do her right, she'll never wander away. The reason the milf wants to see me again? I made her shiver the right way. It all comes back to it. Stabbing me in the back? Could be the case... if i had any investment in it.

Remember this: I don't have any emotions, any attachment or any expectations towards anything.

I'm poised to reach the very top. My way is very frowned upon by society, but then again, what does society conform to? I'm not interested in any labels or tags. Society is a constant change where nothing is and everything is not. Ten million ignorances do not constitute one knowledge.

To avoid the entire issue you just have to learn how to fvck women without deception, lots of us are able to do it and skip all the unnecessary risks you're taking. This is why I think you're dumb.

Whatever works for you. I'm not the one looking to invest myself into something where i'm only interested in one thing and not the whole package.

Seems futile to listen to every DJ if you only came to see one.

 

[Serenity]

Whatever works for you. I'm not the one looking to invest myself into something where i'm only interested in one thing and not the whole package.

Seems futile to listen to every DJ if you only came to see one.

You're interested in one thing, that's fine. You're pretending to be interested in more, that's a lie and not fine.

You think I bother that you just want pvssy? I don't! I'm bothered with your dishonesty. I don't think I can express it any simpler and clearer than that.

 

[Ronaldo7]

You're interested in one thing, that's fine. You're pretending to be interested in more, that's a lie and not fine.

You think I bother that you just want pvssy? I don't! I'm bothered with your dishonesty. I don't think I can express it any simpler and clearer than that.

Why does dishonesty bother you? Are you one of those individuals who think the world is full of rainbows?

The world is a mean & nasty place. Every individual is out there on his/her own. Survival of the fittest.

Once you understand that you are vying for your own self, you'll realize that dishonesty takes many shapes & forms.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

[Lozboss]

Why does dishonesty bother you? Are you one of those individuals who think the world is full of rainbows?

The world is a mean & nasty place. Every individual is out there on his/her own. Survival of the fittest.

Once you understand that you are vying for your own self, you'll realize that dishonesty takes many shapes & forms.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

This is bullish*t reasoning. You define yourself by your own actions, not by others.

This is why you'll never be a DJ, you fail to grasp that you are still influenced by what you perceive to be the worlds actions. You seek external validation for your actions.

You may argue you don't seek it but this thread is just you seeking validation from other DJs for this fantasy land you've created where you are far smarter than anyone else.

To the people preaching that DJing is about lacking morals or lying/being fake- this is not a PUA forum. Being a DJ and being a PUA are different. One is learning to be, the other is pretending to be.

 

[Serenity]

Why does dishonesty bother you? Are you one of those individuals who think the world is full of rainbows?

The world is a mean & nasty place. Every individual is out there on his/her own. Survival of the fittest.

Once you understand that you are vying for your own self, you'll realize that dishonesty takes many shapes & forms.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I know the world isn't full of rainbows, I thought I had already expressed that. The world can be a mean and nasty place, that's why I go against the mean and nasty people like you. The world is not the problem, every living human is not the problem. It's you and the one's like you who are the problem, if everyone thought like you we would still be in the fvcking stone age. We are not because of people's ability to trust each other and cooperate for a common good, instead of fighting each other while everything around us degrades from our neglect.

I am hating on the game, your game. I know others who play that game, they only think it's fun until I play their game against them.

This entire thread is just one long rationalization (petty excuse) to justify something you know damn well to be wrong. You won't fool me like you fool your women.